The Odyssey - Manual of Secret Teachings?

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I read the Odyssey years ago, i remember having many related dreams while i was reading it, and it happenend only with this book.
 
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Might be an interesting exercise as obyvatel did on Kybalion's thread: http://cassiopaea.org/forum/index.php?topic=16419.0
 
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I have not read it either.
 
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I haven't read it either. I'll pick up a copy for the group readings.
 
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Laura said:
Just to give a clue: the reason I am asking is because I'm finishing a second book that interprets the Odyssey. The reason I am reading it is because of the growing number of scholars who are convinced that the Bible ripped off Homer and other Greek - and some Mesopotamian - literature. That is what started this research path.

Okay, so I'm reading these books which, of course, necessitates some careful reading of the Odyssey itself. It's rather shocking to realize that this is an instruction manual about hyperdimensional realities, STS/STO, and a host of other very interesting concepts including psychopathology. It is basically a manual for living in a world controlled by gods who may not have our best interests at heart.

What I would like to do is have a group reading of the Odyssey along with me posting some of the fascinating interpretations and comparisons from these books I've been reading. In that way, some seriously interesting ancient perspectives on hyperdimensional realities can be exposed and understood.

I'm sure the text is online for free somewhere though having a good hardcopy in your hands can't be beat.
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That sounds great! I also read it too many years ago to count.
 
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Heheh, yeah, if that's the case, I REALLY wasn't ready for it in high school! ;D Your post reminded me of one that keit made here: http://cassiopaea.org/forum/index.php?topic=21769.msg229245#msg229245 It includes a link to an analysis some guy did of Homer in relation to Dabrowski's theory, basically showing that it portrays signs of multilevelness in the reactions of the characters. That analysis can be read here: http://www.dezintegracja.pl/?dabrowskis-theory-of-positive-disintegration-as-applied-to-homers-analysis-%28en%29,97

Here's the introduction:

As shown by the research results and analyses of Homeric texts1, feelings form by Homer (IX/VII) a world unfurled on many levels. In antiquity multilevel (i. e. hierarchical) approach to psychic occurrences was elaborated among others by Plato (427-347) (e. g. Symposium, Phaedrus2). In this day and age the concept of multilevelness in the area of feelings was adapted and described more thoroughly in philosophy by a German phenomenologist Max Scheler (1874-1928), and in psychology by a Polish existentialist Kazimierz Dąbrowski (1902-1980).

According to Scheler, there are four well-delineated levels of feeling: (1) sensible feelings, or "feelings of sensation", (2) feelings of the lived body (as states) and feelings of life (as functions), also known as vital feelings, (3) pure psychic feelings (pure feelings of the ego), and (4) spiritual feelings (feelings of the personality)3. For Dąbrowski the most significant aspect of human development is emotional development4, and multilevelness5 is the pivotal concept by the depiction of development.

Modern researchers apply freely the psychological analysis to the examination of contents in Iliad and Odyssey. I shall give only three examples. Georges Devereux showed similarities between the behaviours described in Iliad to those from World War Two6. Jonathan Shay on the other hand has linked the PTSD syndrome (post-traumatic stress disorder) observed by American combat veterans of the Vietnam War to the text of Iliad: Homer has seen things that we in psychiatry and psychology have more or less missed7 Let the third example be an article by T. F. Carney, in which the author shows parallels between the way Iliad influences the listener and what is taking place in psychosynthesis8.

In this paper I want to take note of the presence of Homer in Dąbrowski and the presence of Dąbrowski in Homer. Both approaches are possible, although not identical. Something different is the application of methods and modem psychology concepts, in that case the Dąbrowski's theory of positive disintegration, to Homeric psychology, and something different the verification of modern psychology by the use of tools, the Homeric psychology, on the basis of texts of Iliad and Odyssey, seems to be constructed by.

In my text I give examples of understanding four concepts present by Kazimierz Dąbrowski and their appliances to Homer's texts. They are: klisis & ekklisis, ambitendencies & ambivalences, subject-object in oneself, multilevelness.
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In other words: duality, inner conflict, self-remembering, and levels of being. Looks like there's a lot more to it than just that, though. I'm excited!
 
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I read it a long time ago, and still have a copy, as I've meant to read it again. But it keeps getting put a the bottom of the pile! This would be a great chance to revisit it.
 
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Just snagged a free Kindle edition
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B004TOU9C2/ref=docs-os-doi_0
 
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Here's an online translation from the Perseus Project ( ;) ).

http://www.perseus.tufts.edu/hopper/text?doc=Perseus:text:1999.01.0136
 
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WhiteBear said:
Just snagged a free Kindle edition
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B004TOU9C2/ref=docs-os-doi_0
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How does that one look? I am on Amazon right now trying to decide which version to get.
 
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is there a german title of "The Odyssey" ?
 
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I've read it! Like 8 years ago in school, don't remember much, but I have a copy, sounds appealing to re visit it.
 
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Pashalis said:
is there a german title of "The Odyssey" ?
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Johann Heinrich Voß translated it into German. It's available in pdb format here: http://text.handheldclassics.com/ I'm sure there are newer versions though. It's titled "Odyssee".
 
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