I’ve heard Hunter talk about it, vaguely but I can’t find anything documented on it. I’m assuming because the mafia would come after them.
The Power of Peptide Therapies
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Where do you get oral BPC-157 and how much would one take?
I started semaglutide 0.25 mg a week last Thursday. A local spa had a special for $99/month for the first two months, so I signed on for one month to see how I felt. It made me feel bloated the first few days, and I've had some weird little feelingls. I got on the scale today and I've lost 3 lbs, but I think that's from not eating a lot, not because it's curbing my appetite so much, but more from I don't want to waste my $99 so I'm not going to eat a lot whether I'm hungry or not.
Also, where do you get your tirzepatide? The lowest dose the spa will do tirzepatide is 2.5 mg, and it's $299 a month for the first two months, then goes up to $450.
The bonus of the spa is they give you the shot if you don't want to do it yourself. And it did hurt!
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Potentially, GHK-Cu has anti-cancer actions at the genomic level, but the research isn't conclusive. Dr Kristi Sawicki talks about it in a deep dive she did in this video:
FOXO4 is effective in clearing out senescent cells (aka zombie cells) that can potentially become cancerous, but I'm not sure if it effects tumors.
5-amino-1mq suppresses the NNMT enzyme which is elevated in certain cancers (ovarian, pancreatic and gastric, from what I know, but possibly others). It's theorized that it could improve specific cancer outcomes that involve elevated NNMT.
LL37 is a weird one: in certain cancers such as breast, lung and ovary it seems to facilitate cancer formation while in other cancers like colon and gastric cancer it has been proven to be anti-cancer.
PNC-27 is supposed to straight up kill cancer cells through membrane lysis while leaving normal cells alone, but I know very little about it.
Obviously all of this would have to be researched extensively before attempting anything, but this is what I've gathered, FWIW.
I've been wanting to try BPC-157, but would prefer taking it orally. My sister gave me a few capsules of some she bought from ModernAmino's. I have taken a few and feel fine - no apparent side affects, so wanted to buy a bottle, but they no longer sell that exact thing - now it's just labeled Pentadecapeptide 157 - and it's $78 for 60 units, which seems like a good deal. I suspect it's the same thing, but have no way to know (Here's the link). If that seems dodgy, i may go with the ones from ProHealth.
It's BPC-157. In the research literature they sometimes refer to it as Pentadecapeptide 157. If you look on the Certificate of Analysis link on that page it actually says BPC-157 on the graph. It seems peptide sellers are being targeted in the US right now so a lot of sites are being a bit cagey with the naming (eg. not saying Retatrutide but calling it "GLP-3" or "Triple Agonist") to try and stay off the gov't radar.
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Just an observation but peptides are being pushed VERY hard at this moment in time from a cultural perspective. I'd describe it as almost a phenomenon, a tidal wave.
I'm not sure why / how, but it's an observation.
I'm not sure why / how, but it's an observation.
I'm a bit leery of taking synthetic peptides of any sort. Does anyone else have reservations?
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From a personal point of view, I won't be taking peptides anytime soon unless I have a specific medical issue where that's advised.
From a wellbeing health optimisation point of view without any pre-existing conditions or weight issues, I'll play it safe and stick with diet, traditional supplements and lifestyle choices to optimise health and wellbeing to the extent that these methods provide.
The high levels of marketing that peptides appear to be getting is erhmm, making me think something is up even though I can't quite point at the thing.
Totally!
Don’t know, to me it feels wrong. I know there are tremendous benefits in certain situations, but at present I am not planning to go down that route - even though normally I am a curious biohacker. I would reconsider if I had a grave specific medical issue where the evidence is strong.
I know from my side that there is still space for improvement in life style factors, so that would be my first avenue.
The other issue here in Australia is that most of the stuff is either illegal, or tightly controlled by the medical authorities (under prescription). While there are some ways around this, it’s too much of a pain in the backside.
I think there's a difference between something being pushed and something generating a lot of hype and being talked about a great deal. We just have to look at what's happening to get a picture of the general landscape: youtube channels that discuss peptides getting banned, peptide sellers being shut down in the US, negative articles in the mainstream media of peptides and even smears of those with a sympathetic view of peptides (thinking of RFK Jr. here). If peptides were being pushed, we'd see the opposite. I think your tidal wave analogy is accurate, but it's more like a tidal wave of enthusiasm that's trying to be held back by pharma interests specifically, trying to enforce property rights over their cash-cow.
I don't think there's anything wrong with being cautious and skeptical of the information that's floating around and resisting jumping on the peptide train. But at the same time, from my research I've come to the conclusion that peptides do have a great potential for healing and are already helping a lot of people. But it's also important to resist the temptation to put peptides in all good or all bad categories. They are tools, and should be looked at in the same way supplements are: supplements as a whole aren't all good or all bad; some of them are good, some of them are bad, some of them are useless, and taking them without knowing what they're actually doing and how they fit in to an overall health protocol is probably not going to move the needle much. They don't override bad lifestyle choices like diet and exercise, but they can shift the terrain in people doing the right things on that front. And, like supplements, whether or not a peptide is effective in any given individual has a lot to do with that individual's health status, genetic blueprint, root causes and where their actual weak points are.
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