The Situation In Germany

[Learner]

It appears that the hidden agenda, the dark powers since a long time, preparing Germany seriously into a War turnstile for an European War with Russia in around year 2029-30. What is now in progress in Germany's society and restructuring - are in essence masked, longtime strategic steps coming to fruition, leading to the final goal to opening WW3 in Europe 2029-30

There are indeed ongoing war preparations happening in Germany since several years now, under the guise of a "threat" from "Putin, the Agressor". I've come across headlines or rumors like transforming the hospital structure (to accomodate masses of wounded people) and the net of highways (for lots of tanks) as well as a lot of advertisement for young people to enter the army (Bundeswehr). Here's a piece from The Economic Times (of India), from June 10th this year, regarding re-activating bomb shelters:

World War 3: From tanks to shelters, how Germany is preparing for a global war on 115th anniv of WW 1 with Operation Deutschland

Synopsis

Germany is bracing for a potential conflict with Russia, fearing a possible attack on a NATO member by 2029. The nation is urgently upgrading its civil defense infrastructure, including repurposing existing spaces into shelters, aiming to accommodate up to one million people.

Germany, which ignited both World War I and World War II, is now preparing for the possibility of another major conflict—this time, fearing an attack from Russia. Germany is now fearing that the war could erupt in 2029—exactly 115 years after Germany declared war on Russia in 1914.

According to multiple reports, Germany is taking urgent steps to expand and modernize its network of bunkers and civil defense shelters amid growing concerns that Russia could launch an assault on a NATO member within the next four years.

Instead of building new structures—which would be time-consuming and expensive—Germany is focusing on repurposing existing spaces such as metro stations, tunnels, underground garages, and public building basements to provide shelter for civilians. The goal is to quickly accommodate up to one million people in case of an emergency.

“For a long time, there was a widespread belief in Germany that war was not a scenario for which we needed to prepare. That has changed,” Ralph Tiesler, head of the Federal Office of Civil Protection and Disaster Assistance (BBK), told Süddeutsche Zeitung, as quoted by The Guardian. “We are concerned about the risk of a major war of aggression in Europe.”

Germany’s Chief of Defence, General Carsten Breuer, recently told the BBC that Russia is manufacturing hundreds of tanks each year—enough to pose a serious threat to NATO countries in the Baltic region by 2029 or sooner.

Germany currently has around 2,000 Cold War-era bunkers, but fewer than 600—precisely 580—are functional. These could shelter roughly 480,000 people, less than 1% of the population. In contrast, Finland has built about 50,000 protection rooms capable of housing 4.8 million people, covering nearly 85% of its citizens, according to BBK data.

Tiesler said his agency is working on a national plan to identify and convert suitable spaces, with a full strategy expected later this summer. “New construction would take too long and cost too much,” he said. “We’re in a race against time.”

Germany's broader military posture is also shifting. A classified dossier dubbed Operation Deutschland or Oplan—first reported by Sky News—details how the country would safeguard critical infrastructure, mobilize NATO troops, and prepare for war scenarios.

Since Russia's invasion of Ukraine in 2022, Germany has increased its defense spending and readiness. A €100 billion fund was announced that year to re-equip the Bundeswehr. In 2024, Germany committed to meet NATO’s 2% defense spending target for the first time since the 1990s.

As of now, the Bundeswehr has just over 179,000 troops—making it the sixth largest force in NATO, behind the US, Turkey, Poland, France, and the UK. But German leaders have set an ambitious goal: expanding troop numbers to 203,000 by 2031.

Across Europe, similar concerns are sparking action. Poland, which borders both Russia and Ukraine, plans to spend nearly 5% of its GDP on defense this year—more than any other NATO nation, according to the BBC.

I think like others did in the Corona Thread that puppet masters from the Deep State may start a new pandemic soon which will end the current conflicts going on in Ukraine and Gaza, and under the guise of that pandemic when people will be distracted (including most of the alternative media channels) the restructuring processes in Central Europe for launching a major war might be continued relatively undisrupted; and then that war might end the new pandemic. By this, another major goal of Agenda 2030 would become fulfilled: further depopulation ("less CO2", according to the Green Agenda).

It's just my speculation and I really hope it will not come true but we've come to learn about the inhumanity and relentlessness of these puppet masters with Covid at the latest.

 

[Dirgni]

Germans started WW1 and they lost,

Wikipedia says the following about the begin of WW1:

Growing tensions between the great powers and in the Balkans reached a breaking point on 28 June 1914, when Gavrilo Princip, a Bosnian Serb, assassinated the heir to the Austro-Hungarian throne. Austria-Hungary blamed Serbia, and declared war on 28 July. After Russia mobilised in Serbia's defence, Germany declared war on Russia and France, who had an alliance. The United Kingdom entered after Germany invaded Belgium, and the Ottomans joined the Central Powers in November.

So WW1 started between Serbia and Austria-Hungary. Austria is a German speaking country but was never part of Germany before or during WW1 (only between 1938 and 1945 Austria was temporarily part of Nazi Germany). Germany entered WW1 as ally of Austria-Hungary and did not start it. The Central Powers that lost WW1: Germany, Austria-Hungary, Bulgaria and Turkey. Germany lost significant territories, was disarmed, and was required to pay large war reparations to the Allies after WW1. These reparations more than once nearly throttled German economy in WW1 postwar years.

In my opinion, these reparations and the peace treaty conditions imposed on Germany back then were one of the reasons for the rise of Nazi Germany and the begin of WW2.

There are still US armed forces at many bases in Germany. So Germany is more or less still occupied for more than 80 years now.
There was never a peace treaty signed between Germany and any of the the Allied Countries of World War II. But Germany lost a quarter of its pre-war (1937) territory. Among the eastern territories, Silesia, Neumark and most of Pomerania were taken over by Poland, and East Prussia was divided between Poland and the Soviet Union, followed by the expulsion to Germany of the nine million Germans from these provinces, as well as three million Germans from the Sudetenland in Czechoslovakia.

I guess so, but it seems that German political leadership is quite willing to go on path of confrontation, actually they already are on such path.

Nowadays Germany is part of the West, member of the NATO and member of the EU. German political leadership may or most probably may not be able to do independent decisions.

Germans are actually guilty, they are guilty for millions of dead people in WW1 and WW2, at least those Germans who participated in these wars. Younger generations and those after them need to aware of what their ancestors did and things in which they participated so to have a chance to avoid another disaster in future.

Germans have to be more than about 85 years to remember WW2 and more then about 94 years to have been member of the German forces during WW2. Most of these persons living at that times are already dead now.
Germans (and Germany speaking people living in Germany) are very aware what happened during WW2 and Nazi Germany - the mass media keep reminding and reminding us of our collective guilt.
German history of the first half of the 20th century is taught in Germany schools and was taught at least during the last 50+ years. This includes the nasty parts of them done by different countries - including Germany. Incidentally the aerial warfare was never part of the Nuremberg trials as not only the Axis forces but also the Allied forces had too many skeletons in that closet.

Too many people on both sides died in both World Wars and even after them. Both sides did the killing and the dying. Too many families on all sides lost loved ones for good. Too people had too many traumas.

Germany managed to refuse to participate in wars until the end of the 1990s. Then they were pushed to join forces in Yugoslavia war by our Western allies. Since then Germany only participated in wars (e.g after 9/11) when requested by our Western allies.

Neither of my parents participated in WW2as they were too young. Neither of my Grandparents participated in WW1 as they were too young. I know what my Grandparents and many other family members did during WW2, what some of them avoided to do and also what was done to them. I know (German) history of the first half of the 20th century including what was done by some countries including Germany and what was done to too many persons including Germans in too many countries worldwide.
I was born nearly 20 years after WW2. Therefore I reject feeling responsible for things done by ruling persons and military persons during Third Reich, WW 2 and WW1 and I also reject feeling responsible for things done by other persons including my family at the same time.

By the way I found the Corona times very interesting and insightful also in connection with what ordinary people may be able to do and not able to do during Third Reich times.

History must not be forgotten in order not to be repeated

I agree.

Alreadyin4thDensity Love, I highly recommend to read Bob Altemeyers "The Authoritarians" and Political Ponerology by Andrzej Lobaczewski. Both are on the recommended reading list. It may give you an insight how people may react or not react during certain times.

In case you are interested in how this time looked like from the perspective of a German citizen of the period there is:
Defying Hitler - by Sebastian Haffner

 

[Ricardo]

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By the way I found the Corona times very interesting and insightful also in connection with what ordinary people may be able to do and not able to do during Third Reich times.


I agree.

Alreadyin4thDensity Love, I highly recommend to read Bob Altemeyers "The Authoritarians" and Political Ponerology by Andrzej Lobaczewski. Both are on the recommended reading list. It may give you an insight how people may react or not react during certain times.

In case you are interested in how this time looked like from the perspective of a German citizen of the period there is:
Defying Hitler - by Sebastian Haffner

If one were to draw a map of the western empire/ un-pire , like it is done for Roman Empire in history books ie, it would certainly include all of Western Europe ( and most of Eastern ) , personal perspective , back late nineties was reading regularly portuguese newspapers , spanish newspapers and a french newspaper , its (was) all homogenized propaganda with little of real value objectively , all written in different languages, but very strict unseen boundaries ( same for radio and the tv ). fwiw /blah

 

[RAFL]

I would like to add another piece to the puzzle here. It is the history of Germany after World War II, which William Toel has “revealed” to us. I have started a thread about William Toel here. Keywords are “Rheinwiesenlager,” “Other Losses,” and “Bletchley Park.”
To return to the topic at hand, I would like to share the following interview with you. In March of this year, William gave an interview on AUF1.TV.
English version only available on the AUF1 homepage.

Can Trump Stop the Globalists' Plans?
There is no democracy in Europe. The globalists fear people's free will and therefore control it completely. "Election results no longer count; the global elites decide who comes to power," says the American William Toel. He is a financial, economic, and military expert and a profound expert on Germany. The Germans, in particular, were subjected to total brainwashing after the Second World War and have been part of it ever since. Thus, the human drama surrounding the Rhine Meadows camps and the true number of victims have been concealed to this day. Europe wants wars against Russia, which never was and is not an enemy. Relations with Europe could change under US President Donald Trump. Those who attack Trump will get it back tenfold, Toel believes. As for Russia: Trump likes Russian President Vladimir Putin. But Trump also has to get along with omnipresent globalists like Black Rock; that won't work with just talking. “In a year we will see the real Donald Trump,” Toel said.

Translated (German) version is available on YT:

Here he also talks about Trump. But even so, he seems to have a good overview. Brief summary:
- William and his wife Lisa are in contact with Trump.
- How Germany is being used by the US.
- Trump initially wanted to find out where he could do what through his chatter.
- Trump cannot take on the elite.
- William chooses his words very carefully. And William's so-called “Perfect Storm” reminds me of The Wave.
- William predicted in March that we would only see Trump's true face in a year's time.

I watched it again today and thought it somehow fits in here.

 

[Alreadyin4thDensity Love]

Are there more Germans actually supporting Israel than in your country or any other country for that matter?

My country is one of the rare ones where support for Palestine is really big, likely around 55%-65% maybe even more.

I am originally from the USSR and well aware of what Nazi Germany did there. Yet you do seem to have a pretty shallow or one-dimensional view of WW2. It was a volatile time and none of the participants in WW2 were "the good guys" in my view.

Did you know that Britain and France wanted to attack the USSR from the South in 1940, even after Germany conquered Poland? It is even on Wikipedia, yet nobody ever mentions it (Operation Pike). It could have been easily a very different world war if that happened.

Here is an article on SOTT you may want to read as well:

Why Everything You Know About World War II Is Wrong

"Much of the current political legitimacy of today's American government and its various European vassal-states is founded upon a particular narrative history of World War II, and challenging that account might have dire political consequences."...

www.sott.net

I do not agree with all of it, but it shows that the official narrative of WW2 is basically a fairytale.

It is well documented what Germans did to Slavs especially to Russians and Jews as well, and "world war" would not be really world one if Germany did not attack USSR and Japan USA.

Germany and Japan did the worst crimes in WW2, obviously there were a lot of crimes in British/USA bombing of German and Japanese civilians as well as Russian crimes conducted on German civilians in 1945.

But by far the biggest civilians casualties are in China, USSR and Poland, countries which were among the main targets of two war wheels Germany and Japan.

It is obvious and self evident that Germany was going in the direction of expansionism.

Generalplan Ost - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

They wanted to make peace with Britain in order to conquer Russia-USSR and later they attacked Russia anyway. It could be argued that British intelligence knew that Germany would attack USSR soon so Churchil declined to make peace with Germany.
I definitely do not see Adolf Hitler as poor guy who only wanted peace or as someone similar to Vladimir Putin.

Japan also did not have anything to do waging war in China and killing and raping Chinese civilians.

Nanjing Massacre - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

They got sanctions and embargos from USA and they definitely deserved it, you can call it karma !

Rosevelt maybe wanted to start a war with Japan but Japan deserved sanctions and in the end Japan was the one who started the war by attacking USA and everything that happened to Japan they more or less deserved it, although I am never in support of killing of civilians and Japan lost many civilians in aerial bombings but still it is perhaps karma.


Official story of WW2 as taught in schools and universities probably has many faults and likely omits many things but it is certainly not a fairy tale !

 

[XPan]

Wikipedia says the following about the begin of WW1:


So WW1 started between Serbia and Austria-Hungary. Austria is a German speaking country but was never part of Germany before or during WW1 (only between 1938 and 1945 Austria was temporarily part of Nazi Germany). Germany entered WW1 as ally of Austria-Hungary and did not start it. The Central Powers that lost WW1: Germany, Austria-Hungary, Bulgaria and Turkey. Germany lost significant territories, was disarmed, and was required to pay large war reparations to the Allies after WW1. These reparations more than once nearly throttled German economy in WW1 postwar years.

In my opinion, these reparations and the peace treaty conditions imposed on Germany back then were one of the reasons for the rise of Nazi Germany and the begin of WW2.

Outmost fascinating series about the real underpinnings which lead to WW1

is being aired via German Nuoflix.de (Nuoviso), by historian Wolfgang Effenberger - which I have been listening to lately. It is mind boggling to say the least: he amounts of details he is digging out. Especially in the light of what is happening today; the many parallells of deceit, planning and hidden influences in order to create a world war.... it all becomes suddenly, yet gradually more obvious of what is being prepared now and in the near future. What an old chessboard game... that's has been going on for 120 years (at least).

There is only one part which is barely mentioned (which is a pity) - and that is the Zionist movements hidden agendas and deceit games. Influences and underpinnings which steered and collaborated behind the creation of WW1 and WW2. I guess it has to do with that when you are German, you can't be truly entirely open about the subject, due to the obsessive pressure that is being put onto German speaking people by law.

Highly recommended !

Spoken in German language (translation can be enabled via YT)

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(13) • 1914: The real reason for the World War – what nobody tells you (Part 1)

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(14) • July 1914 vs. July 2025 – How blind is Europe this time?

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(15) • CIA insiders, China, and the shadow of World War I

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(16) • “The Lie of 1914: Wolfgang Effenberger reveals who was really to blame for the war!”

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(17) • Germany 1914 in a stranglehold: From industrial powerhouse to besieged state

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[msasa79]

Official story of WW2 as taught in schools and universities probably has many faults and likely omits many things but it is certainly not a fairy tale !

How do you know that for certain?

 

[Alreadyin4thDensity Love]

How do you know that for certain?

A lot of history of WW2 is centered about war happenings, battles, sieges, encirclements... How can it not be since it was a war and it lasted for around 5 years, in Asia war lasted even more. There is no reason for anyone to lie about battles and say Germany won battle of Kursk or they took Moscow in 1941, or that French were not defeated and they stopped German army at the gates of Paris like in WW1 and so on.

It would be an obvious lie and outrageous to say such things, therefore generally story regarding WW2 is generally correct one when it comes to the war happenings itself.

Were there things which were omitted or lied about when it comes to political aspect of the war and crimes against civilians ?
Highly likely there were but it does mean that official story is totally false.

 

[iamthatis]

A lot of history of WW2 is centered about war happenings, battles, sieges, encirclements... How can it not be since it was a war and it lasted for around 5 years, in Asia war lasted even more. There is no reason for anyone to lie about battles and say Germany won battle of Kursk or they took Moscow in 1941, or that French were not defeated and they stopped German army at the gates of Paris like in WW1 and so on.

It would be an obvious lie and outrageous to say such things, therefore generally story regarding WW2 is generally correct one when it comes to the war happenings itself.

Were there things which were omitted or lied about when it comes to political aspect of the war and crimes against civilians ?
Highly likely there were but it does mean that official story is totally false.

I notice that Wikipedia is the most common source that you cite when speaking about your unfortunately very shallow understanding of geopolitics. I think you would gain a lot from spending more time reading.

Ron Unz has an entire series about the hidden history of WW2, available for free. Although the official story contains some truth, it is mostly a fairy tale.

https://www.unz.com/page/world-war-ii-articles/

In addition to Dirgni's book suggestions, good books include Conjuring Hitler, The China Mirage, and Fletcher Prouty's books.

 

[msasa79]

It would be an obvious lie and outrageous to say such things, therefore generally story regarding WW2 is generally correct one when it comes to the war happenings itself.

History, as written by winers as it's said, is full of stories that were not necessarily true. Just because something would be an outrageous lie does not mean there are none in the official story. False flags are just one example, and Joe nicely recounted on latest NewsReal, IIRC, what the "father" of modern propaganda, Goebbels, said while being in prison in Nurnberg; paraphrasing, the more outrageous lie the more likely it would pass as truth, because people would think as you, no way somebody would dare to say such a big lie like that and think it would be believed.

 

[Alreadyin4thDensity Love]

Wikipedia says the following about the begin of WW1:


So WW1 started between Serbia and Austria-Hungary. Austria is a German speaking country but was never part of Germany before or during WW1 (only between 1938 and 1945 Austria was temporarily part of Nazi Germany). Germany entered WW1 as ally of Austria-Hungary and did not start it.

Austrians are Germans and they speak German language. Holy Roman Empire was basically greater Germany with mostly Germans inhabiting it, especially in later period.
Austria was part of Holy Roman Empire for hundreds of years, and not only part of HRE but leading state in it which provided huge number of emperors.

Even after HRE was dissolved in early 19th century during Napoleonic wars, Austrians-Habsburgs soon entered into German confederation.

Germany started WW1 by attacking Belgium and France and declaring war on France and Russia, war between Austria and Serbia can hardly be categorized as anything else but regional war.
Although it could be said that war when Germany entered was still mostly European war and not world war since main battles were waged mostly in Europe and little bit in Africa and far east Asia, but that is another topic.

Anyway Austrians had no business sending ultimatum to Serbia and attacking Serbs in the first place since it was not Serbian government which killed archduke, even Gavrilo Princip who killed him was not from Serbia but from Austria-Hungary, it was internal issue !

Germany lost significant territories, was disarmed, and was required to pay large war reparations to the Allies after WW1. These reparations more than once nearly throttled German economy in WW1 postwar years.
There are still US armed forces at many bases in Germany. So Germany is more or less still occupied for more than 80 years now.
There was never a peace treaty signed between Germany and any of the the Allied Countries of World War II. But Germany lost a quarter of its pre-war (1937) territory. Among the eastern territories, Silesia, Neumark and most of Pomerania were taken over by Poland, and East Prussia was divided between Poland and the Soviet Union, followed by the expulsion to Germany of the nine million Germans from these provinces, as well as three million Germans from the Sudetenland in Czechoslovakia.

You can call it Karma or you can call it more scientifically law of action and reaction.
Although I am sorry for all the Germans that were unjustly expelled from today's Poland, Russia (Kaliningrad), France, Czech republic and other countries, but still what else was it if not Karma ?

Too many people on both sides died in both World Wars and even after them. Both sides did the killing and the dying. Too many families on all sides lost loved ones for good. Too people had too many traumas.

Unfortunately, but it is not the same if you die as aggressor (like Germans in Russia-USSR) or defending your homeland (Russians) and family from those who want to kill you, rape you and steal your property. What were Germans doing in USSR ?

However, I am sorry for all that death which occured.

I was born nearly 20 years after WW2. Therefore I reject feeling responsible for things done by ruling persons and military persons during Third Reich, WW 2 and WW1 and I also reject feeling responsible for things done by other persons including my family at the same time.

Of course, you are not to blame in the same way that Jewish baby which was born 3 months ago in Israel is not guilty of Gaza genocide, even if she is reincarnated soldier who actually killed people in Gaza, got killed himself and reincarnated soon after, she is not guilty in this life for that (although she may suffer consequences in terms of Karma) only in the past life.

 

[Dirgni]

Alreadyin4thDensity Love, you appear to have resentments against people you perceive to belong to a certain group? Your choice. Resentments seem to be just a waste of energy to me.

I wonder why there are so many efforts by the "West"/"Elites" to keep Russia and Germany apart during the last more than 100 years. They including neighbor countries seem to be natural economic and political allies to me.

There were among other peoples also Germanic languages speaking Scandinavians ("Vikings"/"Varangians"/"Rus") significantly involved in the founding of the first beginnings of Russia, as far as I know.

 

[Alreadyin4thDensity Love]

Alreadyin4thDensity Love, you appear to have resentments against people you perceive to belong to a certain group? Your choice. Resentments seem to be just a waste of energy to me.

I really do not want to have resentment against certain group of people. I am just careful and wary when it comes to the Germans because they showed in the past that they can cause a lot of destruction and misery, mainly in Europe. Current German stance (political leadership) when it comes to Ukraine and war shows that I am right and that it was immense mistake for Soviets to even allow unification of Germany.

Scott Ritter said, perhaps a couple of times, something like : "Scratch a German you gonna get a Nazi", while I do not agree with him, history showed us that Germans quite often followed their political leadership even when it comes to war and causing destruction and misery as well as committing crimes.

Even in todays Germany (I guess Austria as well) which was greatly reduced at the end of WW2, in terms of power and influence still shows us it's traces of authoritarianism especially when it comes to way police deal with protestors or the way free speech is banned where you can not say certain things.

I wish Germans all the best, especially to be good people and I really do not blame any German for crimes in WW2 except German who actually did it. I want to believe that vast majority of Germans are normal and good people who want to happy and live in peace with everyone else. They showed a lot of hospitality as well and religious freedom when they allowed Muslims to come, from Turks after WW2 to Arabs and others in these days as well as allowing them to build their mosques. Of course, Germans have their own interests in terms of workforce but still it is a hospitality.

I wonder why there are so many efforts by the "West"/"Elites" to keep Russia and Germany apart during the last more than 100 years. They including neighbor countries seem to be natural economic and political allies to me.

German political leadership did it's part as well since they attacked Russians twice, not really a good way to be friend with someone and punch him in a face at the same time while robbing him of his possessions while he is on the ground. Even today, German political leadership is in indirect conflict with Russia which can easily become direct one.

Germany is pretty much devoid of any resources except coal. They need Russia's resources or from someone else to produce something while Russia does not need much from anyone, especially not from Germany and can produce it's own stuff !
It's another thing that Russians did not use and do not use their potential to the fullest.

 

[axj]

Even in todays Germany (I guess Austria as well) which was greatly reduced at the end of WW2, in terms of power and influence still shows us it's traces of authoritarianism especially when it comes to way police deal with protestors or the way free speech is banned where you can not say certain things.

The same is happening in most of the West, as well as other major countries, yet for some reason you single out Germany.

Even today, German political leadership is in indirect conflict with Russia which can easily become direct one.

Again, German political leadership are puppets who do what the globalists want, not what the vast majority of Germans want. Same as in Britain, France and many other countries.

I do not really see the point of your "beware of the Germans" posts. There are more than enough other forces to be aware of than regular Germans.

 

[Alreadyin4thDensity Love]

The same is happening in most of the West, as well as other major countries, yet for some reason you single out Germany.


Again, German political leadership are puppets who do what the globalists want, not what the vast majority of Germans want. Same as in Britain, France and many other countries.

I do not really see the point of your "beware of the Germans" posts. There are more than enough other forces to be aware of than regular Germans.

You are right, but the topic is generally about Germany, so that is why the talk was naturally about Germans.
I do not hate Germans, actually I consider Germans as very smart and disciplined people as well as industrious. I guess that is one of the reasons why Germans, because of the discipline, obedience of law, power (which stems from their intelligence) were able to follow their authorities in many cases so blindly and do what they did.
In many ways Germans are very special indeed although people from the south Europe usually consider them cold and perhaps distant in many cases when it comes to personal relationships.