The Truth about Tobacco and the Benefits of Nicotine

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Today on the Health & Wellness Show we'll be talking about smoking. Is tobacco the life-threatening plant we've all been taught to believe it is? Are there differences between straight tobacco and processed cigarettes? What are the benefits of nicotine, and could there actually be benefits to smoking tobacco? Are there benefits to vaporizing or is it a dangerous trend? We'll discuss these questions and more... As always, joining us will be Zoya with the pet health segment. Tune in weekly on Fridays on the SOTT Radio Network at 10am EST and 4pm CET!

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Excellent topic :thup:

For me, the super long history of it's usage, and the practice of some Shamans who use specifically for cleansing like blowing it around a person in a ritual - even if no longer totally as per it's previous usage (idk myself) - are just too much to ignore. And then there's the articles on sott that it clears rooms of bacteria (?), and for weeks afterwards, is fascinating.

I ain’t no quitter! :lol:

Looking forward to it :cheer: (i may have to jump in the sauna while i listen to some of it live :D )

All the best for the show y'all :cool2:
 
Hope peeps will share the announcement on FB and Twitter. The more listeners, the better!
 
Wish I could listen in live, but I'm at work so I'll have to listen to it later. I just shared it on FB though. :) Looking forward to this one.
 
Looking forward to the show. I hope you can address helping people over-ride the fear programs when they have watched someone they know, pass away from lung cancer ostensibly from smoking (as is the case with me). I'm sure there are a few people in the same boat as me.
 
Arwenn said:
Looking forward to the show. I hope you can address helping people over-ride the fear programs when they have watched someone they know, pass away from lung cancer ostensibly from smoking (as is the case with me). I'm sure there are a few people in the same boat as me.

The show is on air now: https://radio.sott.net/ :)
 
Arwenn said:
Looking forward to the show. I hope you can address helping people over-ride the fear programs when they have watched someone they know, pass away from lung cancer ostensibly from smoking (as is the case with me). I'm sure there are a few people in the same boat as me.

I've met quite a few people who detest smoking for this reason.
 
Arwenn said:
Looking forward to the show. I hope you can address helping people over-ride the fear programs when they have watched someone they know, pass away from lung cancer ostensibly from smoking (as is the case with me). I'm sure there are a few people in the same boat as me.

More often than not their lung cancer was the result of something other than smoking, typically environmental toxins and pollutants. That's notwithstanding the emotional/spiritual connection to cancer (See When The Body Says No by Gabor Mate). You might also want to listen to a previous H&W show about tobacco as well: http://www.sott.net/article/299965-The-Health-Wellness-Show-The-Truth-About-Tobacco-with-Richard-White.
 
Excellent show All. I very much enjoyed it and all the good research presented!
 
Arwenn said:
Looking forward to the show. I hope you can address helping people over-ride the fear programs when they have watched someone they know, pass away from lung cancer ostensibly from smoking (as is the case with me). I'm sure there are a few people in the same boat as me.

Hi Arwenn
I really feel for you and understand how difficult this must be for you. To some extent, just understanding the points made in the article and on the show might help you. It is so difficult when we have all been beaten around the head with the propaganda and told that smoking causes lung cancer over and over again. But it isn't true. Let me try to put things in perspective for you.

Lung cancer, like all cancers, is a multi risk factor disease. In other words there are a number of possible causes for it, and even today, doctors do not know what triggers lung cancers to form. Genetics, environmental pollution, exposure to radioactive particles, truck and car exhaust exposure.workplace pollution, the HPV virus, obesity, diet etc. Unfortunately you would never know this, because we are so programmed that whenever we hear "lung cancer" we immediately think "smoker". I have read some documentation recently where doctors are trying to work out how to de-stigmatize lung cancer as there are many people contracting the disease who are not smokers and they suffer under the scorn and opprobrium from people who offer them no sympathy at all. Also that many people are going un-diagnosed as there is no standard screening for the disease unless you are a smoker.

Actually, it gets worse. If a smoker presents to the doctor with some sort of lung problem, the chances are greater than 90% that the doctor will automatically declare lung cancer. If the person presents with a lung problem and does not smoke, the doctor will look for any other possible diagnosis, because we all "know" that only smokers get lung cancer. In the book "Smoke Screens" the author talks about a study done by some pathologists who followed a group of patients with lung issues over ten years and got to dissect them after the died. They found that the smokers were over diagnosed with lung cancer by some 55% ( in other words more than half of them did not have lung cancer) and non smokers were under diagnosed by a similar percentage ( in other words they did have it but had not been treated for it). In some senses it is better for a smoker to not declare this to their doctor for fear of medical misadventure.

The second nasty trick the Tobacco Control people have is to declare any of the so called "smoking related" diseases to be caused by smoking. even if the person has stopped smoking for 20 years. So, person A stops smoking at 50, contracts lung cancer at 70 and automatically the smoking is blamed for the cancer. Not logical, but unfortunately a lot isn't particularly when dealing with disease causing death, and playing on people's emotions helps drive the cause - which is to drive us all to a smoke free world, whether we want it or not.

Third, as we discussed in the article and on the show, all of the studies purporting to prove lung cancer is caused by smoking are epidemiological. And in the area of tobacco control science, we are subject to the most blatant mis-truths and fraudulent behavior seen in almost any area of medical research. Research questionnaires are easy to skew to make sure you get the results you want - by the questions that are asked and not asked, by how the questions are asked, by whom the study group includes and excludes, by the size of the group etc. And they can rest comfortably in the frat that nobody is going to challenge their results and try to reproduce them - as long as they conform to the politically correct answer - that smoking is evil, dangerous and terribly harmful and nobody in their right mind should be doing it. Confirm that credo and your research will be welcomed with open arms, and more importantly, further research grants will be made available to you.

And the biggest and most glaring omission in the questionnaires is the inability or lack of desire to try to allow for any other confounding factors - genetics etc as discussed above. Then they manipulate the data with statistical models, with adjustments being made for age, income levels etc (no discussion as to how or why they are adjusting for these things). The out pops the required research answer which confirms that on this occasion smoking causes your toenails to curl and your feet to rot away, or whatever other result they want to get noticed and published in a prestigious journal.

There is a whole other area to look at, particularly in Australia where we were subjected to atomic weapons testing and detonations at Maralinga in South Australia after the war. Worldwide, between 1943 and 1969 there were in excess of 700 atmospheric atomic weapon detonations, leaving some 700 billion radioactively charged particles circulating around the world in the upper atmosphere, slowly being brought to ground level by winds,storms and precipitation. Get a particle in your lung, you will get lung cancer; get a particle on your skin, you will get skin cancer. And with a half life of greater than 50,000 years, there could be the explanation for the explosion in lung cancer cases after the war.

The last point worth noting is that lung cancer is typically a disease of old age. Most people suffering lung cancer are not young or middle aged, they are in the older age bracket. As we get older, living in this world where we are soaked in radiation, chemicals and processed foods, our bodies start to break down. For many people it is not a matter of whether they are going to dies from some unpleasant disease as much as which one will get them.

Arwenn, I hope this helps. I realise that you are facing an emotional reaction and that a logical argument is often not the way to combat that, but maybe this helps you by giving you some ammunition you did not have before and something to hang on to which is not the state fed propaganda.
 
Laura said:
Hope peeps will share the announcement on FB and Twitter. The more listeners, the better!

Yes, i remember FB had the option were you can get your post to highlight? I haven't seen it anymore, i think you had to pay to "sponsor" it.

Does anyone know if that is still around, been trying to do that but they changed the layout again.


People are over bombarded with anti-smoking adds, without considering that all the chemicals from cars, nuclear plans and sugar, and GMO foods have anything to do. I was watching the RADON levels in the US by county and they are pretty high , and the amount of AgenOrange dumped on the river nearby back in the 60s , people just don't hear about this enough to make the association or dismiss it in a false sense of distance and time. Many of these chemicals stay, and travel through air...
 
Hi Gordon,

Thank you for your thoughtful post. I have read many of the articles and the evidence that shows smoking is beneficial, & I know about the skewed science and distortion of the truth on this topic. I have tried smoking and find that it makes me feel light-headed and generally unwell (I've tried the only organic tobacco available here in Australia, which is Mannitou). Then I tried the nicotine chewy, and felt better with it than smoking, but after a few weeks felt my energy dip. When I looked into it some more, I found that nicotine can make adrenal exhaustion syndrome worse (which is what I suspect I have) as it releases sugar and taxes the HPA axis even more. So for now, I have shelved the idea of nicotine, till I get myself sorted and then will revisit it.

With regards to programs, when it's tied in with trauma, it almost feels like it cuts a very deep groove in the brain. Simply reading evidence to the contrary I feel, is not sufficient to reverse the program. It may take something like EFT or meditation perhaps, I dunno & as I said I am sure there are a few people in the same boat. It's just my rambling thoughts.

I haven't listened to the show yet, will be tuning in this weekend and I'm looking forward to it. It's funny, my dad was a smoker, and I always seem to be drawn to men who smoke. Go figure :cool:

I really appreciate your input, as well as your very well researched article on SOTT.
 
Absolutely excellent show!

It was obvious all of you were prepared and your comments were well synchronized - smooth and informative!
I'm sharing it far and wide :)
 
Excellent show you all! And a big thank you to Flashgordonv and keyhole for all of the research (megatons) they both did and shared with us. I hope you can both talk about this subject again in a future show.

My mother was a chain smoker for....well, I don't know when she started, but I'm sure it was, at the very least, in her late teens. She developed some breathing problems in her late 70s and died at the age of 83 years old. They said it was from lung cancer, but I'm not convinced of that. They said there was a mass of some sort in the bottom part of one of her lungs. However, she was also taking (for years, probably was addicted to) Vicodin. She was not in a good mental state (probably because of the Vicodin) and that could be why she fell out of her bed and broke her hip not even a weak before her death.

I had a grandmother who went to the hospital because of a broken hip and died there because of it so I'm not certain what my mother really died of. But smoking is such an easy out for the doctors.
 
This was an excellent show radio, so much information! We tend to forget, we smokers, all the good information about smoking. Thank you very much.
 
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