The Wooly Pig: The perfect Paleo breeding animal, for times to come?

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I'll start this thread as an inspiration for Paleo people, who might consider to hold breed animals.

The Wooly Pig: The Mangalitsa (US spelling), Mangalitza (UK spelling) or Mangalica (original Hungarian spelling)r]

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The Mangalitza pig seems to be reared easily (compared to normal hogs).

From german wikipedia (https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mangalica-Schwein):

Their thick layer of fat and the coat protects those robust pigs against extreme weather. Therefore, they can live outdoors all year if they have a shelter and a mud wallow available. The character of the Mangalitza pig is very indulgent. With proper treatment, they are very trusting and can also like to be touched.

Not only can they survive outdoors the whole year (Ice Age pig, anyone?), this sort is also infamous for its large amounts of high quality fat it produces and stores in his body. Do to the fact that its meat is so fatty, it has naturally become rare (unfortunately) as a breeding animal.

It was formerly bred as a lard pig...


From wikipedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mangalitsa):

Mangalitsa

Mangalitsa (US spelling), Mangalitza (UK spelling) or Mangalica (original Hungarian spelling) is a name for three breeds of pig bred especially in Hungary known also as a curly-hair hog. It belongs to European unimproved lard-type breeds (as well as Iberian Black and Alentejana pigs) that are descended directly from wild boar populations.[1] The Mangalitsa pig is unusual as it grows a hairy 'fleece', akin to that of a sheep. The only other pig breed noted for having a long coat is the now extinct Lincolnshire Curly Coat of England. The Mangalitsa was formerly bred as a lard pig, and animals were large and round. Because of the drop in demand for lard, the breed's popularity has declined and it is now regarded as a "rare breed".[2]

History

The blonde Mangalitsa was developed from older hardy types of Hungarian pig (Bakonyi and Szalontai) crossed with the Hungarian Wild Boar breed of Hungarian origin (1833)[3] (and later others like Alföldi.[4] The development took place in Hungary in the early 19th century.[3] The new quick-growing "fat-type" hog did not require any special care, so became very popular in Hungary. In 1927 the National Society of Fat-Type Hog Breeders (Mangalicatenyésztők Országos Egyesülete) was established, with the objective of improving the breed.[3] Mangalitsa was the most prominent swine breed in the region until 1950 (there were 30,000 of them in Hungary in 1943).[3] Since then the popularity as well as the population of Mangalitsa have been decreasing, with the rising availability of food from farther away and refrigeration.[5] Nowadays, the keeping of Mangalicas has become a popular hobby.[3] There are currently slightly over 7000 Mangalitsa sows in Hungary, producing cca. 60000 porkers a year.[6]In March 2006, 17 Mangalitza were imported from Austria into the UK. These are registered with the British Pig Association (BPA) and the pedigrees are being maintained on the BPA Mangalitza Herd Book. Three of the animals are at Tropical Wings zoo in Essex.[7]The Swallow-bellied Mangalitsa breed was produced by crossing the blonde Mangalitza and the Black(which has gone extinct).[3]
In 2007, Wooly Pigs, an American company, imported a herd of 24 Swallow-belly Mangalitsa gilts and boars to the USA.
In 2010, Pure Mangalitsa, based in Michigan, imported the first Blonde Mangalitsa pigs into the United States. [8]

Husbandry

The Mangalitsa produces too little lean meat so it has been gradually replaced by modern domestic breeds. It is usually fed with a mix of wild pasture, supplemented with potatoes and pumpkins produced on the farm.[3]
The primary product made from this pig is sausage, usually packed in the pig's duodenum. The minced meat is seasoned with salt, pepper, sweet paprika, and other spices. It is then eaten in slices with pickled vegetables. The pork is also served braised with sauerkraut, potatoes, and stuffed peppers as a side dish. Farmers also produce smoked hams.[9] The fresh meat tastes strong and juicy; the suckling pigs are much preferred for their good fresh meat qualities.[10] In the UK, the breed is kept free-range, fed on standard Sow and Weaner Pellets. The higher quality and protein levels of this food results in a slightly larger stockier pig.In Hungary, most Mangalitsa pigs are raised semi-intensively or intensively. Mangalitzas will happily rear their young (who are born striped like wild boars) in outside arks all year round without the need for additional heat and light.
Killing weight (for meat production) is generally achieved beyond 12 months of age,[11] much longer and the additional fat gained becomes too excessive for the UK market.
Meat from Mangalitsa can be easily found in Hungary, as Hungarian farmers produce about 60.000 animals each year.[12]

Breeds

There are three Mangalitsa breeds: Blonde, Swallow-bellied, and Red. They all have the same behavior; the only difference is the colour. The Blonde Mangalitsa is blonde, the Swallow-bellied (originally produced by crossing the Blonde Mangalitsa with the extinct Black Mangalitsa)[3] has a blonde belly and feet with a black body, and the red (produced by crossing the Blonde Mangalitsa with the Szalonta breed)[3] is ginger. Other breeds (black, wolf, and baris) have died out as pure-bred forms, though their reconstruction from selective breeding of mixed varieties is being debated in Hungary.[3]

And last but not least, some fatty meat pictures from the Mangalitsa, to dream about...:

That I call bacon!:

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Mangalitsa fatback. "As high" as that of an elephant!

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WOW! That FAT is amazing! I love pork. I want a mangalitza - but I suspect it wouldn't like African heat very much. :cry:
 
Found this:
http://www.mangalitzagenebank.co.uk/index.html

It's in the UK and it is the "Largest Mangalitza Genetic Pool in the UK":
http://www.mangalitzagenebank.co.uk/index_about%20Mangalitza's.html

Since it is a rather rare sort of pig nowadays, I think that somebody who is interested in it, can talk to people who are raising them and ask them where it is best to get them and for more specific informations.

But I guess there should be breeds in several countries arround the world and from what I've gathered so far, hungary seems to have the largest breed.
 
I'm wondering if it makes it more difficult to rear those pigs over several generations, when the gene pool is so small for this sort?
 
In the USA:

http://www.puremangalitsa.com/index.html
http://www.puremangalitsa.com/breeders_feeders.html
 
Laura said:
Where can you get them?

Apparently, they are common in Ukraine. I found several sources that sell 2 months old piglets for 200$ and mama pig for 1000$. For example:
_http://mukachevo.prom.ua/p4383471-vengerskaya-mangalitsa-svini.html
_http://www.ua.all.biz/svini-vengerskaya-mangalica-g1498107#!prettyPhoto
But don't know if t would be easy or possible to somehow ship them abroad, although they do mention this possibility. I also looked for such pigs in Belarus, and one forum post says that there are couple of places, but will have to check this out with our zootechnics teacher just in case. Right now, in Belarus, the new hot thing in the pig farming is the Pot-bellied Vietnamese breed. And that's all because of the anti-fat propaganda, because this breed has much more meat than fat. And the people in the forum post complained that it isn't worth buying the Mangalitsa because they have so much fat. Well, that's actually great!

One other thing they mentioned (albeit with negative connotations), that this breed is much more active (apparently, they dig a lot), robust, interactive and adapts really fast. But that could be a good thing during harsh conditions.
 
Looks like they have them in New England. Which is good.http://bondircambridge.com/wp/2012/12/mangalitsa-pig-butchering-demonstration-and-dinner/
I am looking into raising pasture pigs next year.
 
Mr. Premise said:
Apparently the breeding of these pig is tightly controlled in the US.

Not sure what you mean by this since all line bred animals are tightly controlled through registration organizations to protect genetic traceability. This protects those that wish to contribute to the breeding gene pool. But if you just want to raise meat hogs, you just get a breeding pair and you're off. Your own gene pool will be limited in future generations if you don't add new diverse genes from other breeders.

Your first breeding pair will be registered, and a litter from these two can also be registered (and sold as breeding stock). There would be no advantage to registering any litters produced by that first generation/litter. IOW, you have only one breed line. If you get a second breeding pair of diverse genes, then you can mix these with the first pair and sell breeder pigs and breeder pairs. Good breeder pairs can bring in some good $$ to supplement the meat hog operation.
 
With this breed it seems they are limiting who can breed them. It is more controlled than other heritage breeds I've looked into. I don't have the details but I would guess they only sell castrated males. They say it's to maintain. The breed by making sure breeders are approved, established farmers and won't quit. But I suspect it's to keep prices high. They are calling it the Kobe beef of pork.
 
Michigan went after farms that had Wooly Pigs and killed the pigs starting about a year ago:

_http://woolypigs.blogspot.com/2012/03/michigan-and-feral-pigs.html

The above blog might have some decent info on Wooly pigs. Looks like whatever business the blog is about sold out to this website: _http://www.mosefund.com/
 
Mr. Premise said:
With this breed it seems they are limiting who can breed them. It is more controlled than other heritage breeds I've looked into. I don't have the details but I would guess they only sell castrated males. They say it's to maintain. The breed by making sure breeders are approved, established farmers and won't quit. But I suspect it's to keep prices high. They are calling it the Kobe beef of pork.

When I looked into to them a couple of years ago, you could get registered pairs. It did sound kind of cliquish then - and I'll bet you're right - motivation to keep prices high without real regard to the line's welfare. You might look at Large Blacks. We did just what I described above and are producing both meat hogs and registered breeding pairs of LBs.

If folks are dedicated to saving a breed line, the best way is to encourage as many breeder/farmers as possible.
 
LQB said:
Mr. Premise said:
With this breed it seems they are limiting who can breed them. It is more controlled than other heritage breeds I've looked into. I don't have the details but I would guess they only sell castrated males. They say it's to maintain. The breed by making sure breeders are approved, established farmers and won't quit. But I suspect it's to keep prices high. They are calling it the Kobe beef of pork.

When I looked into to them a couple of years ago, you could get registered pairs. It did sound kind of cliquish then - and I'll bet you're right - motivation to keep prices high without real regard to the line's welfare. You might look at Large Blacks. We did just what I described above and are producing both meat hogs and registered breeding pairs of LBs.

If folks are dedicated to saving a breed line, the best way is to encourage as many breeder/farmers as possible.
I'll check out the large blacks,
LQB. In my state there's a Heritage Breed society that's breeding and encouraging the breeding by small farmers of Gloucestershire Old Spots which have a higher fat content. I might try those.

Glad to hear you're doing this. I'm sure I'll need lots of advise.
 
Wooly pigs are also bred in Austria:

_http://www.mangalitza.at/IGWOE/rubrik.php?rubrik=9.0_EN

Bear said:
Michigan went after farms that had Wooly Pigs and killed the pigs starting about a year ago:

_http://woolypigs.blogspot.com/2012/03/michigan-and-feral-pigs.html

The above blog might have some decent info on Wooly pigs. Looks like whatever business the blog is about sold out to this website: _http://www.mosefund.com/

Heath Putnam, who seems to be the owner of the blog, actually imported his pigs from Austria:

_http://www.mangalitza.at/IGWOE/beitrag.php?rubrik=2.0_aktivitaeten&beitrag=2.3_vermittlung#vm08

If I read that right, he runs a farm in Spokane, WA.
 
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