The Living Force
obyvatel said:I would think so. Evidence indicates that we cannot think properly - yet it is the thinking part that renders itself to some amount of conscious and voluntary control and hence becomes the life-line through which we can approach the Work on the self. The thinking function is lazy and serves as the slave of the moving and emotional centers. This is partly due to a combination of a lazy and/or often ignorant thinking center. Ignorance can be remedied through acquiring knowledge - then the laziness needs to be confronted through conscious efforts which apply the knowledge gained. Through repeated practice, the knowledge acquired gets integrated into System1 and can then be invoked without as much effort. This would indicate a "growth of being" - osit.Paragon said:So then, getting the balance right between system1 and system2 is comparible to gurdjieff's right work of Centres?
That is also the impression I get re: using systems 1 and 2 properly. It seems to me that "shocks" are any external force that cause greater arousal of system 2, and that waking up necessarily involves consciously observing when some input from reality needs greater accuracy and discernment than the default, mechanical response (which is the rapid delegation to the habitually acquired system 1 program) and following up as necessary and proper. So "waking up" from that perspective means never being satisfied with anything less than the truth of a situation (refusing to settle for less accurate system 1 results and paying with greater system 2 functioning (higher consciousness) to alter your responses to be more accurate.) Is this correct?
Laura said:The bottom line keeps coming back to the fact: you can't think with the way you think and the only way anybody has any hope of ever really knowing themselves is via a network and later, perhaps, via inference.
Kahneman has some nifty little examples, tests, etc, that enable the reader to understand exactly what is meant by the various terms, and he also makes clear why the terms are selected and what they encompass.
This book goes into the MUST READ pile.
Duly noted! Thanks for the elaborations. :)