dreamrider said:[...] Could be just a terrible coincidence or is there something more symbolic going on here?
Something like this came to my mind too...
dreamrider said:[...] Could be just a terrible coincidence or is there something more symbolic going on here?
Tigersoap said:Yeah that's terrible.
Each time I read or see these things happening I can't help to think about how life is fragile, how any minute everything can be wiped out just like that. It's sad to think how all those people had dreams, hopes and so on and now it's gone... those who are left behind have to deal with the loss & grief now.
I know it may be too much 3d thinking but that's how I see things and I don't find much comfort in trying to soothe myself with any kind of after life idea.
dreamrider said:...
Could be just a terrible coincidence or is there something more symbolic going on here?
loreta said:Tigersoap said:Yeah that's terrible.
Each time I read or see these things happening I can't help to think about how life is fragile, how any minute everything can be wiped out just like that. It's sad to think how all those people had dreams, hopes and so on and now it's gone... those who are left behind have to deal with the loss & grief now.
I know it may be too much 3d thinking but that's how I see things and I don't find much comfort in trying to soothe myself with any kind of after life idea.
Me too. And worst, I try to imagine their life, and also their last seconds of life. It is sometimes an obsession. I have to control my mind in that respect.
But in general these accidents make me feel angry. And me too, also, I start to think that there are so many coincidences. And also that maybe the majority of victims are young people, and good people. In the accident of Spain a lot were teachers, good people, like us, with their dreams and their actions and their plans for the present or future. And in less than one second... About the age of the victims, in the accident of Quebec, also a because train, a big majority were young.
MK Scarlett said:dreamrider said:[...] Could be just a terrible coincidence or is there something more symbolic going on here?
Something like this came to my mind too...
rylek said:MK Scarlett said:dreamrider said:[...] Could be just a terrible coincidence or is there something more symbolic going on here?
Something like this came to my mind too...
My thoughts as well.
Not sure what it can be but the fact that the Spanish high speed train crash happened near Santiago de Compostela where pilgrims were gathering, and now the Italian bus crash taking pilgrims back to Naples from their pilgrimage.
Pilgrims - Christianity - crashes
rylek said:MK Scarlett said:dreamrider said:[...] Could be just a terrible coincidence or is there something more symbolic going on here?
Something like this came to my mind too...
My thoughts as well.
Not sure what it can be but the fact that the Spanish high speed train crash happened near Santiago de Compostela where pilgrims were gathering, and now the Italian bus crash taking pilgrims back to Naples from their pilgrimage.
Pilgrims - Christianity - crashes
neema said:Although a specific symbolism is possible, I personally think it's just souls “checking out” before the big “show”. Some folks like to “learn” from a distance.
In general we must always remember, that death is truly another step which we have very little objective information about. It's only a tragedy if you think of it from a certain limited “human” perspective, osit.
MK Scarlett said:rylek said:MK Scarlett said:dreamrider said:[...] Could be just a terrible coincidence or is there something more symbolic going on here?
Something like this came to my mind too...
My thoughts as well.
Not sure what it can be but the fact that the Spanish high speed train crash happened near Santiago de Compostela where pilgrims were gathering, and now the Italian bus crash taking pilgrims back to Naples from their pilgrimage.
Pilgrims - Christianity - crashes
Would the symbolic could be "believe in lies"? While "Was Jesus Caesar" times, could it have any cosmic expression about all this? Just a though...
Possibility of Being said:Perceval said:Possibility of Being said:Also, don't you think the driver's reaction seems a bit bizarre even when taking into account a huge shock he must have been in?
The train had two drivers and one was in hospital, the Galicia government said. It was not immediately clear which driver was under investigation or in hospital. The train was operated by state-owned company Renfe. Newspaper accounts cited witnesses as saying one driver, Francisco Jose Garzon, who had helped rescue victims, shouted into a phone: "I've derailed! What do I do?". El Pais newspaper said one of the drivers told the railway station by radio after being trapped in his cabin that the train entered the bend at 190 kilometers per hour (120 mph), twice the permitted speed. "We're only human! We're only human!" he told the station, the newspaper said, citing sources close to the investigation. "I hope there are no dead, because this will fall on my conscience." Investigators were trying to urgently establish why the train was going so fast and why failsafe security devices to keep speed within permitted limits had not worked [source]
The report I read in Spanish said he was walking back and forth on the tracks repeating "I derailed, what am I going to do...."
Yeah, that's how I understood that from the beginning, guessing there was a translation error. But that's not the part that sticks out most to me. That's the "we are only human" part. When do you usually say such a thing? When you make a mistake, overlook something, or are too weak to do something you think you should do. This kind of situations. Not when you are allegedly driving a train full of people at double permitted speed because... because of what? Out of fantasy? Cavalier attitude? Doesn't make sense. Assuming that's what he actually said (which may not be true), the only scenario I can think of for such comments to be said is some sort of a blackmail situation. You're forced to derail the train and the pressure is so big, and the price you are going to pay for not doing so is so high, that you do it and hope for the best possible outcome...
I know that's a bit a side issue in the whole picture, so fwiw...
MK Scarlett said:rylek said:MK Scarlett said:dreamrider said:[...] Could be just a terrible coincidence or is there something more symbolic going on here?
Something like this came to my mind too...
My thoughts as well.
Not sure what it can be but the fact that the Spanish high speed train crash happened near Santiago de Compostela where pilgrims were gathering, and now the Italian bus crash taking pilgrims back to Naples from their pilgrimage.
Pilgrims - Christianity - crashes
Would the symbolic could be "believe in lies"? While "Was Jesus Caesar" times, could it have any cosmic expression about all this? Just a though...
rylek said:I was thinking something similar. Christianity being the default means of interpreting reality in the West, the message might be 'this is where your worldview will take you' - crash into a wall or fall off a cliff, either way the end result is going plat.
Another theory about this flurry of accidents might be that it could have something to do with the coming Wave and it causing slight changes in physicality. This Wave effect might also be messing with people's minds - the subconscious processes that normally guide individuals around their daily tasks are being disrupted. People being mostly mechanical run around on automatic and this autopilot is experiencing glitches.
Either way another reminder to pay close attention to objective reality.
edit: grammar
Gawan said:According to some news and the analysis of the black box of the spanish train crash it is said, that the driver did call someone before, was reading something and was too fast with 154 km/h where it should have been about 80 with the conclusion he was not concentrated.
loreta said:Gawan said:According to some news and the analysis of the black box of the spanish train crash it is said, that the driver did call someone before, was reading something and was too fast with 154 km/h where it should have been about 80 with the conclusion he was not concentrated.
It is also very interesting to see the importance of Facebook in that case. It is not gratuitous if they said that this man was using Facebook telling in it that he love to drive very fast. Yesterday in a inquest the majority of people were saying that they regretted what they have put in their wall, in Facebook, and what they wrote in it. So Facebook can be very dangerous! this is what they wanted, our masters, that we think about it. Be careful! Don't talk to much! etc.
_http://www.upi.com/Top_News/World-News/2013/07/29/54-injured-in-Kazakhstan-train-crash/UPI-18361375098779/
54 injured in Kazakhstan train crash
Published: July 29, 2013 at 7:52 AM
ALMATY, Kazakhstan, July 29 (UPI) -- A locomotive slammed into a passenger train in Almaty, Kazakhstan, causing mostly minor injuries to 54 people, the Transportation Prosecutor's Office said.
Four of the victims were hospitalized, a prosecutor's statement said.
The locomotive was pulling an empty passenger train around the station in Almaty -- the largest city in Kazakhstan -- when it slammed into the train full of people on track 4 of station Alma-Ata-2 Sunday, RIA Novosti reported.
"Four people, including one passenger, were hospitalized with various injuries. About 50 other people received minor injuries and declined to be hospitalized," the prosecutor's statement said.