Unknown respiratory illnesses

[Rich]

I felt like being a sedated zombie, like a person having pain but unable to feel it, anything that needed me to move my body was the equivalent to make a huge conscious effort like trying to bypass self-induced sleep. I would even forget to breath and then get headache, respiration was really slow. Even the night was very hard, sleeping without naturally moving (which I usually do) and then awakening the morning with lots of pain to the bodyparts where pressure of weight was applied. This happened after taking some dairy and about half a bread, which were not part of my diet since about 2 weeks (thats my only record so far :( ). It lasted for about 2 days and now I am well recovering (4 days).

Sounds like you've gained some useful insight into what foods you should avoid to remain healthy. Good luck on sticking to it.

 

[Renaissance]

Curious situation, isn't it? It seems to me that the WHO officials are just pretending that they can't get the information about this virus. Or is it something else?

I think it's a bit interesting that the WHO seems to be ramping up the hysteria on this one, and that it's so closely connected to SARS makes me wonder if this Novel Coronaviruses may be a manufactured virus.

 

[Lilou]

I have little doubt that it is indeed manufactured. Is it coincidence that the mutated cold virus, killing 50% of those who contract it, was first diagnosed in the Middle East? And then there is this article http://www.sott.net/article/252044-Is-new-Middle-Eastern-SARS-virus-an-Arab-specific-biological-weapon

I was looking for the article on SOTT that tells about the Egyptian doctor fired from his post in Saudi Arabia for identifying this virus on a medical forum. But didn't find it for some reason. Do you suppose this is the same virus hitting folks in Alabama and Texas? Or some similar engineered cold virus? Very scary stuff!

 

[Olesya]

Again, on this unknown respiratory disease and experiments done by secret government facilities, mentioned in the C session May 28, 2013:

(L) Okay, speaking of transitions and changes and people attracting things to themselves that are commensurate with their vibratory frequencies or their consciousness or their information load or lack thereof, there is an unknown respiratory disease going around in Alabama and Texas. The question here is what is it, and what caused it?

A: In this case, look to the secret gov facilities and their experiments.

what comes to mind is the human experimentation incident that occurred in the US in 1950.

From Wikipedia, link here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unethical_human_experimentation_in_the_United_States

In 1950, in order to conduct a simulation of a biological warfare attack, the U.S. Navy used airplanes to spray large quantities of the bacteria Serratia marcescens – considered harmless at this time – over the city of San Francisco, which caused numerous citizens to contract pneumonia-like illnesses, and killed at least one person.The family of the man who was killed sued for gross negligence, but a federal judge ruled in favor of the government in 1981.Serratia tests were continued until at least 1969

About Serratia marcescens from Wikipedia again [Link] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Serratia_marcescens:

In humans, S. marcescens can cause infection in several sites, including the urinary tract, respiratory tract, wounds,[3] and the eye, where it may cause conjunctivitis, keratitis, endophthalmitis, and tear duct infections.[6] It is also a rare cause of endocarditis and osteomyelitis (particularly in people who use intravenous drugs recreationally), pneumonia, and meningitis.[2][3] Most S. marcescens strains are resistant to several antibiotics because of the presence of R-factors, which are a type of plasmid that carry one or more genes that encode resistance; all are considered intrinsically resistant to ampicillin, macrolides, and first-generation cephalosporins (such as cephalexin)

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Role in bio-warfare testing

Until the 1950s, S. marcescens was erroneously believed to be a nonpathogenic "saprophyte",[3] and its reddish coloration was used in school experiments to track infections. During the Cold War, it was used as a simulant in biological warfare testing by the U.S. military[12][13] which studied it in field tests as a substitute for the tularemia bacterium, which was being weaponized at the time. On September 26 and 27, 1950, the U.S. Navy conducted a secret experiment named "Operation Sea-Spray" in which some S. marcescens was released by bursting balloons of it over urban areas of the San Francisco Bay Area in California. Although the Navy later claimed the bacteria were harmless[citation needed], beginning on September 29, 11 patients at a local hospital developed very rare, serious urinary tract infections, and one of these individuals, Edward J. Nevin, died. Cases of pneumonia in San Francisco also increased after S. marcescens was released.[14],[15] (That the simulant bacteria caused these infections and death has never been conclusively established. Nevin's son and grandson lost a lawsuit that they brought against the government between 1981 and 1983.[16]) The bacterium was also combined with phenol and an anthrax simulant and sprayed across south Dorset by US and UK military scientists as part of the DICE trials which ran from 1971 to 1975.[17]
Since 1950, S. marcescens has steadily increased as a cause of human infection, with many strains resistant to multiple antibiotics.[1] The first indications of problems with the influenza vaccine produced by Chiron Corporation in 2004 involved S. marcescens contamination.

S. marcescens has also been linked to 19 cases in Alabama hospitals in 2011, including ten deaths.[19] All of the patients involved were receiving total parenteral nutrition at the time, and this is being investigated as a possible source of the outbreak.[20]

About the government facilities involved in biowarfare research From Wiki here http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_biological_weapons_program

By 1950 the principal U.S. bio-weapons facility was located at Camp Detrick in Maryland under the auspices of the Research and Engineering Division of the U.S. Army Chemical Corps.[11] The U.S. also maintained bio-warfare facilities at Fort Terry, an animal research facility on Plum Island.[12] From the end of World War II through the Korean War, the U.S. Army, the Chemical Corps and the U.S. Air Force all made great strides in their biological warfare programs, especially concerning delivery systems.

Here in Serratia infections: from military experiments to current practice http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/21976608 is additional information about this pathogen:

Because S. marcescens was thought to be a nonpathogen and is usually red pigmented, the U.S. military conducted experiments that attempted to ascertain the spread of this organism released over large areas. In the process, members of both the public and the military were exposed to S. marcescens, and this was uncovered by the press in the 1970s, leading to U.S. congressional hearings. S. marcescens was found to be a certain human pathogen by the mid-1960s.

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S. marcescens, and probably other species in the genus, carries several antibiotic resistance determinants and is also capable of acquiring resistance genes.
S. marcescens and S. liquefaciens are usually identified well in the clinical laboratory, but the other species are rare enough that laboratory technologists may not recognize them. 16S rRNA gene sequencing may enable better identification of some of the less common Serratia species.

About S. liquefaciens, in particular, here http://microbewiki.kenyon.edu/index.php/Serratia_liquefaciens we read:

Not much is actually known about Serratia liquefaciens. In fact, up until 1971, it was actually characterized as Enterobacter liquefaciens. After extensive comparison with S. marcescens, E. liquefaciens was determined to be more closely related to S. marcescens and the genus was changed to Serratia.[5]
Following the genus change, little can be found regarding S. liquefaciens. However, current research is taking place on its mechanisms and pathogenic affects. Thus far, it has been proven to have certain antifungal properties in a plant’s rhizosphere. [6] It is also a pathogenic bacterium that has been associated with severe nosocomial infections.

Pathology

The Serratia genus, as a whole, is responsible for about 2% of nosocomial infections; most of which are attributed to S. marcescens. They tend to colonize in respiratory and urinary tracts of adults.[15] In 1950, the genus Serratia was thought to be harmless. A study by the United States Army wished to determine the possible effects that biological warfare may have on the United States. Therefore, about 117 square miles of the San Francisco area was sprayed with an aerosol of S. marcescens. After approximately 800,000 people were exposed, a resulting epidemic of serratia-related pneumonia hit the area, killing many people.

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Research is also being done to determine exactly how Serratia liquefaciens infections have been spreading – particularly in the sense of epidemics. While it is known that a wide variety of clinical manifestations have occurred over the past couple of years, the particular sources of infection are difficult to identify.

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However, since there are so many resistant strains of S. liquefaciens it is important to know exactly how the infections are spread in order to control nosocomial epidemics. It is already known that infections usually harbor in the respiratory tract... However, it was confirmed that the majority of patients had lung colonization. This is not the only mode of transmission; the bacterial presence has also been confirmed in blood cultures.

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A very different type of research regarding quorum sensing and biofilms is being initiated. As indicated, S. liquefaciens is an opportunistic pathogen that inhabits a wide variety of habitats. A specific stain of the bacteria, strain MG1, can differentiate into various specialized cells with the ability to move rapidly on certain surfaces. This rapid surface motility allows the MG1 stain to swarm to a specific area of colonization. Quorum sensing plays an important role in the congregation of the S. liquefaciens bacteria. In the colony, a biofilm is formed in about 72 hours. It has been indicated that biofilm formation is a genetically encoded phenomenon that can only occur on a surface and not in fluids. What makes S. liquefaciens biofilms of particular interest is the morphological variation found within one bacteria's biofilm.

So, here we read that during San Francisco biowarfare attack not just one person died, but many people. And the research of the unknown strains of the causative agent to the outbreaks continues. If it worked the first time, I doubt that the efforts by government to continue with this kind of experimentation would've stopped, especially with the strains unknown to the public, where no protection exists, and they difficult to identify via regular testing. I'm not saying that this particular pathogen is the cause of the mysterious respiratory illness, but maybe something similar, some unknown strains?

 

[cope]

dr osterhaus was in our country the pusher of the hype of 'mexican flu' for the WHO, complete with supplying himself the vaccination, and threatening on public TV a GP who dared to state that the vaccination didn't work. He concealed that the national health council, consisting of 6 members, also contained 6 members of big pharma. when this came out he claimed that the pharmaguys had no voting power, but subsequent research showed that the council ruled collectively in her advice to the government. They made the country buy a shipload of Tamiflu at a crisis-inflated price, and forced the ineffective vaccin on the healthcare workers. Maybe after this he is a bit weary of WHO induced scares, for his reputation is severely dented. Googling a bit i see him being called 'architect of pandemics', link to activist post: scientist weaponize flu 22nov2011; #vorige.nrc.nl/2393811 for an dutch story in english. So it's funny that they sent him the virus for he probably knew it intimately already, but now has it also legally! His comment that they sent it everywhere for free is comical: also in balloons?

 

[Olesya]

I have little doubt that it is indeed manufactured. Is it coincidence that the mutated cold virus, killing 50% of those who contract it, was first diagnosed in the Middle East? And then there is this article http://www.sott.net/article/252044-Is-new-Middle-Eastern-SARS-virus-an-Arab-specific-biological-weapon

I was looking for the article on SOTT that tells about the Egyptian doctor fired from his post in Saudi Arabia for identifying this virus on a medical forum. But didn't find it for some reason. Do you suppose this is the same virus hitting folks in Alabama and Texas? Or some similar engineered cold virus? Very scary stuff!

Thank you, Lilou, for posting the link. On this nCOV-MERS, it's interesting, osit, that it was the virologist, Ron Fouchier, who identified and tested this novel virus was the same one, who created a deadly H5N1 virus in laboratory, and he works at Erasmus Medical Center in Rotterdam, were Dr. Albert Osterhaus, aka Ab Osterhaus, mentioned by cope in the previous post, works as well.

From Wiki, here http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Middle_East_respiratory_syndrome_coronavirus:

The Erasmus Medical Center in Rotterdam "tested, sequenced and identified" a sample provided to EMC virologist Ron Fouchier, a leading coronavirus researcher, by Ali Mohamed Zaki in November 2012.

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On 8 November 2012 in an article published in the New England Journal of Medicine, Dr. Zaki and co-authors from the Erasmus Medical Center, published more details, including a tentative name, Human Coronavirus-Erasmus Medical Center (HCoV-EMC), the virus’s genetic makeup and closest relatives, including SARs.
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Fouchier and his team of researchers successfully sequenced the whole genome of the new coronavirus naming the viral strain Human Coronavirus-Erasmus Medical Center (hCoV-EMC) after their research center. They published its genomic sequence in the GenBank (accession code: JX869059) in the fall of 2012.

Saudi officials had not given permission to Dr. Zaki to send a sample of the virus to Fouchier and they were angered when Fouchier claimed the patent on the full genetic sequence of the Middle East respiratory syndrome coronavirus. Fouchier's creation of a dangerous and highly contagious strain of the H5N1 virus resulted in a global controversy ignited by fears that his academic articles published in journals might provide "a cookbook for a biological attack".

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In November 2012, Dr. Zaki sent a virus sample to confirm his findings to EMC virologist Ron Fouchier, a leading coronavirus researcher at the Erasmus Medical Center in Rotterdam.

Here, in Isolation of a Novel Coronavirus from a Man with Pneumonia in Saudi Arabia http://www.virology-bonn.de/fileadmin/user_upload/_temp_/Zaki_et_al.pdf both Albert D.M.E. Osterhaus and Ron A.M. Fouchier are mentioned as co-authors of the said paper.

In the Discussion part of the paper, mentioned above, it is said:

The first decade of the 21st century has witnessed an increase in the number of coronaviruses that have been identified, along with a corresponding increase in the number of coronavirus genomes that have been sequenced. Such increases were due to the discovery of the SARS coronavirus, which resulted in a global outbreak of pneumonia in 2003 that affected persons in approximately 30 countries and resulted in about 800 deaths. Before 2003, only two human coronaviruses were
known, HCoV-229E and HCoV-OC43, both discovered in the 1960s. After the emergence of the SARS-CoV in 2003, two additional human coronaviruses were discovered, HCoV-NL63 and HCoV-HKU1.

Why this sudden appearance of the coronavirus? it's very suspicious, osit. Ron Fouchier admitted that he made a deadly H5N1 virus in laboratory, and now, he patented or tried to patent this nCOV-Mers virus, as mentioned in my previous post? So, probably, because he knows it was made by him, that's why he tries to patent it?

Again from Wiki here http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Middle_East_respiratory_syndrome_coronavirus:

In September 2012, Ron Fouchier speculated that the virus might be an animal origin originating in bats. Sequencing and subsequent analysis indicated that the novel coronavirus shared high sequence homology with both bat and porcine coronaviruses, the highest of which were bat coronaviruses HKU4 and HKU5 (about 94% similarity; carried by the genus Pipistrellus). An article published in the Emerging Infectious Disease Journal in March 2013 identified bat coronaviruses carried by the genus Pipistrellus that differed from hCoV-EMC by as little as 1.8%. There are several species of Pipistrellus in the Arabian Peninsula. The high potential for use of cave-derived water and bat guano strongly suggests that they may be the pre-crossover zoonotic reservoir

but at the same time in the same source in the previous paragraph it says that

To date, no known routine contact exists between humans and bats. There is speculation that an intermediate host is responsible for the sudden appearance of the virus in the human population

Oh, that's even more interesting, osit. How it happened that this virus jumped species all of the sudden, maybe, because it was made to do just that? SARS virus appeared in Asian population, now this nCOV-MERS virus closely related to SARS appears in Arab population, and both target the respiratory systems.


And what about this Dr. Albertus Osterhouse, mentioned by cope? Thank you, cope.

From Wikipedia here http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ab_Osterhaus:

... known as Ab Osterhaus, is a leading Dutch virologist and influenza expert. A Professor of Virology at Erasmus University Rotterdam since 1993, Osterhaus is known throughout the world for his work on SARS and H5N1, the pathogen that causes avian influenza. As the country's foremost virus expert, he frequently appears on Dutch television. He has been criticised for exaggerating the consequences of the 2009 flu pandemic and pushing for extensive measures, even though the Mexican flu is now treated as if it were a common flu. In September 2009, a controversy arose when it became known Osterhaus has a 9.8% share in ViroClinics B.V, a pharmaceutical company that supposedly benefits from the 34 million vaccines Health minister Ab Klink bought based on his advice as government consultant.

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In 1993 he became Professor of Virology at the Medical Faculty of Erasmus University and also head of the Department of Virology at Erasmus University Medical Centre Rotterdam.

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On 2 January 2008 an article appeared in PLoS ONE describing a new vaccine for H5N1 virus, developed by Rotterdam pharmaceutical company ViroClinics B.V., a spin-out company of the Erasmus MC where Osterhaus works as scientific advisor.

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Osterhaus has been criticised for what has been described as a 'fear campaign', calling for far-reaching measures to combat the Mexican flu. Physician and microbiologist Miquel Ekkelenkamp called Osterhaus a 'scaremonger' in an opinion piece in nrc.next and said: "'Expert' Osterhaus should be banned indefinitely from television. Everything he claimed turned out to be untrue: we're not all going to die like we did in 1918, not everyone needs a vaccination, we are not going to give Tamiflu to everyone and the virus has not mutated into something much more dangerous."[7] Osterhaus claimed he has not exaggerated the risks. During debate 'De Kwestie live' he said "I have named a wide spectrum of possibilities and minister Ab Klink decided to go for the worst-case scenario"

Oh, what an interesting place, this Erasmus University Medical Centre Rotterdam is, isn't it? It appears that all recent "deadly" outbreaks lead to it.

 

[Olesya]

dr osterhaus was in our country the pusher of the hype of 'mexican flu' for the WHO, complete with supplying himself the vaccination, and threatening on public TV a GP who dared to state that the vaccination didn't work. He concealed that the national health council, consisting of 6 members, also contained 6 members of big pharma. when this came out he claimed that the pharmaguys had no voting power, but subsequent research showed that the council ruled collectively in her advice to the government. They made the country buy a shipload of Tamiflu at a crisis-inflated price, and forced the ineffective vaccin on the healthcare workers. Maybe after this he is a bit weary of WHO induced scares, for his reputation is severely dented. Googling a bit i see him being called 'architect of pandemics', link to activist post: scientist weaponize flu 22nov2011; #vorige.nrc.nl/2393811 for an dutch story in english. So it's funny that they sent him the virus for he probably knew it intimately already, but now has it also legally! His comment that they sent it everywhere for free is comical: also in balloons?

Hi, cope. Can you post the link to the story, you mentioned in your post, please? :) I couldn't find it. Thank you.

 

[cope]

hi olesya, encantado..
The first part of my post came out of my memory, i was quite shocked seeing live psycopath power. Whenn trying to link, something didn't let me, so i just put keywords, sorry for that. Now i'm trying to copy/paste the article but not alas. little children, washing machine, senseless music, cooking, you know.
vorige.nrc.nl/international/article2393811.ece/controversial_flu_expert_recieves_1_million_euro_grant
check out also his wargame link on the bottom of the page
hiding in plain sight anyone?

 

[Olesya]

Thank you cope. :) Yes, this one works.

 

[cope]

Reading up on the subject, it appeared to me that if one tries to modificate H5N1, it would be just as easy to try a range of genes instead of only one, it would give a better chance of some profitable outcome. There is also the rumour of a fridge in erasmus with not only coffeemilk, but also samples of viruses they collected in the sixties.. Meanwhile my family all have the same flu in the same phase, they went to school, and i was at home, mostly reading. Started thursday with loose bowel and brainfog, farting fryday, phlegm and coughing saturday, on top headache today. one of my chickens is coughing, too. As Laura pointed out, viruses can spread through the (damp)air, or aerosols. There was rain early in the week. In dutch we say "de griep heerst" translated The flu REIGNS.

 

[Andrian]

sorry if i will post of the topic please but 2 months or so ago till now i started to experience and still experience some respiratory problems,more like allergic reactions some times when i have these allergic reactions i feel also intense internal heat,sometimes i even observed small red dots on my body,mostly on my legs and arms and after a couple of days they just disappear ,but the most irritated thing is the allergic reactions i have each day,like between 2-3 hour period,before having the allergic reactions i feel inside the nose an irritation like when you inspire pepper dust,after that the nose is filling with mucus its so strange, in all my life i can not remember to have for such long time a respiratory problem(allergic reaction) like this ,by the way this phenomenon i observed that is more common when I'm at home when I'm out it still persists but at a much lower level.I also observed that some of my colleagues in this period are having flu,strange indeed,may be a sign before the great plague(black death) arrives ?

 

[truth seeker]

sorry if i will post of the topic please but 2 months or so ago till now i started to experience and still experience some respiratory problems,more like allergic reactions some times when i have these allergic reactions i feel also intense internal heat,sometimes i even observed small red dots on my body,mostly on my legs and arms and after a couple of days they just disappear ,but the most irritated thing is the allergic reactions i have each day,like between 2-3 hour period,before having the allergic reactions i feel inside the nose an irritation like when you inspire pepper dust,after that the nose is filling with mucus its so strange, in all my life i can not remember to have for such long time a respiratory problem(allergic reaction) like this ,by the way this phenomenon i observed that is more common when I'm at home when I'm out it still persists but at a much lower level.I also observed that some of my colleagues in this period are having flu,strange indeed,may be a sign before the great plague(black death) arrives ?

Hi Andrian,

I looked over a few of your posts to see if I could find any diet related information and so far haven't seen anything specifically related to you, but rather about your Mom. Can you say what your diet currently looks like? :)

 

[Andrian]

sorry if i will post of the topic please but 2 months or so ago till now i started to experience and still experience some respiratory problems,more like allergic reactions some times when i have these allergic reactions i feel also intense internal heat,sometimes i even observed small red dots on my body,mostly on my legs and arms and after a couple of days they just disappear ,but the most irritated thing is the allergic reactions i have each day,like between 2-3 hour period,before having the allergic reactions i feel inside the nose an irritation like when you inspire pepper dust,after that the nose is filling with mucus its so strange, in all my life i can not remember to have for such long time a respiratory problem(allergic reaction) like this ,by the way this phenomenon i observed that is more common when I'm at home when I'm out it still persists but at a much lower level.I also observed that some of my colleagues in this period are having flu,strange indeed,may be a sign before the great plague(black death) arrives ?

Hi Andrian,

I looked over a few of your posts to see if I could find any diet related information and so far haven't seen anything specifically related to you, but rather about your Mom. Can you say what your diet currently looks like? :)

hi truth seeker,recently I've changed but just a little my diet in the right direction,but i still have to work on it,previously like 3-4 months ago i used to eat at least once or twice a week lot of junk food,lots of sugar,carbs,now instead I'm consuming sugar but in small quantities(when drinking a cup of tea,1-2 tea spoons) ,soon i want to renounce at all with sugar(sincerely),carbs exempt sometimes some bred I'm not eating nothing else,I'm not drinking milk and I'm eating almost nothing from lactose relating foods(exempt sometimes butter at breakfast and nutella still got a weakness for it),in short now that i look at what i wrote i realize that i want to work more toward a healthier diet because at the moment I've made almost no progress in changing it.But still previously my diet was much,much worse and i haven't experienced such long periods of allergic reactions which i described previously,thanks truth seeker for reminding about the diet to be honest i know that i have to improve my diet for myself ,i didn't pay the needed attention from there the consequences,i will try to change it.

 

[Andrian]

By the way i used to drink at least once a day i relay strong cup of coffee(espresso),sometimes after drinking coffee i observed that I'm feeling weaker,i felt even pain,disturbance in the stomach,craving to eat more ,i wonder if the coffee it play a very negative role on my health? i found a thread in the forum about the coffee if it is good for health or not ,well from the comments I've read from that thread i realized that the coffee indeed has negative side effect on our health ,some people are more tolerant other are not tolerant to coffee,seem i belong to the 2nd team ,intolerant to coffee, being honest i was sure that the coffee it is not good for my health but till now i didn't pay attention,definitely i will exclude the coffee from my diet.

 

[truth seeker]

By the way i used to drink at least once a day i relay strong cup of coffee(espresso),sometimes after drinking coffee i observed that I'm feeling weaker,i felt even pain,disturbance in the stomach,craving to eat more ,i wonder if the coffee it play a very negative role on my health? i found a thread in the forum about the coffee if it is good for health or not ,well from the comments I've read from that thread i realized that the coffee indeed has negative side effect on our health ,some people are more tolerant other are not tolerant to coffee,seem i belong to the 2nd team ,intolerant to coffee, being honest i was sure that the coffee it is not good for my health but till now i didn't pay attention,definitely i will exclude the coffee from my diet.

Thanks for the replies, Andrian. I think you've done a good job in making changes, but yes, unfortunately there's a good chance that the occasional bread, sugar and coffee that's playing a role in you're not feeling well. When I was making changes, it was difficult for me to accept that there are basically only three food groups: carbs, proteins/meat and fat.

If you can get rid of the bread entirely and swap out the sugar for either xylitol or stevia, I think you'll notice some improvements. With the coffee, perhaps trying out different kinds of teas will help you with that transition. I'm not sure that many are tolerant to coffee on a regular basis but what probably happens (as with my case) is that if you can clean up your diet to a certain point, every now and again as a treat, you may be able to have a small amount of carbs and not suffer too much discomfort (eg. homemade chocolate). Hope that helps and keep us updated on your progress and how you're feeling. :)