Venezuela Oil: US Declares War on 'Narco-Terrorism'

[SOTTREADER]

I don't believe for a second any deals were struck. The US planned out an operation and executed it and kidnapped the president. Why would they need to negotiate with anyone - to get permission...?? Pffff

This is Trump nowadays. Emperor Trump?

 

[Natus Videre]

Strike Number <insert a big number>, for the USA & friends.
The comets are taking note.

 

[irjO]

Why would they need to negotiate with anyone - to get permission... Pffff

To avoid a full confrontation and save the lives of a lot of people? I don’t think this was a negotiation of Venezuela and the US alone, any of the BRICS member also could have been part of the talks to avoid the least of any bloody results for Venezuela and assure safety of the country plus other things we might not know but for the convenience of many too. Perhaps.

 

[SOTTREADER]

Antony Brian Logan.

 

[Mgse]

Antony Brian Logan.

Normal reaction from sheeple, "democracy" is finally coming to Venezuela.

 

[SOTTREADER]

To avoid a full confrontation and save the lives of a lot of people? I don’t think this was a negotiation of Venezuela and the US alone, any of the BRICS member also could have been part of the talks to avoid the least of any bloody results for Venezuela and assure safety of the country plus other things we might not know but for the convenience of many too. Perhaps.

...save the lives of a lot of people. It'd be good thing to think they care about "lives" of normal people.

Maybe it's better on the psyche to believe this was all part of a negotiated piece of theatre rather than America just exercised it's power because it has the ability to.

Either/or the end result is the same. Venezuela will be stripped of its natural resources and a puppet corrupt government will be installed and probably the Venezuelan military if it's corrupted enough will terrorise its own people to maintain order on behalf of the US.

This how 3D STS world operates.

 

[palestine]

I remember that when Trump landed to China, recently, Xi did some nasty move - like a welcome message. Could be that Trump opted for today in a sort of revenge (because there were Chinese diplomats in Caracas)?

In addition: Russia neither China did intervene in Palestine. Syria, same. Still, Russia acts in Ukraine. Scenarios:

• they don't care
• they cannot act
• it's preferable not to intervene

 

[Windmill knight]

One obvious point to note about the US 'operation' is that normally regime change goes like this: Lots of air bombing with long-range missiles fired from high-altitude jets or warships for a few nights in a row, and then they go into whatever next phase there is. This time, the Apache and Chinook helicopters just 'walked' right into Caracas and no one shot not even a hand gun at them. Which means that the Americans were well confident that they didn't need to fear any air-defenses, which hints at treason and/or bribery of at least some of the Venezuelan armed forces in cahoots with the Americans.

As for a deal between the three 'new' great powers, I don't think there was one as such, but there could have well been a sort of tacit understanding in the sense of: Ok you Russia are about to get Ukraine, and you China want Taiwan, so I'm going to take the liberty of taking Venezuela which is in my 'sphere of influence' so we can all assume we are 'even'. I don't think China would have explicitly agreed to let the US take Venezuela because China gets (until now) a lot of its oil from that country. Now that's going to stop.

As for the future of Venezuela, I'm afraid it can only be chaos and for quite a number of years, if history teaches us anything (Iraq, Afghanistan, Libya, Syria). For starters, Trump just stated on his press conference that there my be a 2nd wave of attacks if needed. And as of this moment, it looks like the government is still Chavista, and clearly Trump will not consider the job done before there is a puppet government (Corina Machado for sure) that opens Venezuela's resources for the purpose of 'Making America Great Again'.

 

[Windmill knight]

• they don't care
• they cannot act
• it's preferable not to intervene

I don't think China and Russia can realistically do anything. They are on the other side of the globe and they don't have hundreds of bases nor the military reach of the US. Also, their national interests are above all, and it would be way too costly and dangerous to sacrifice so much for Venezuela.

 

[SOTTREADER]

I remember that when Trump landed to China, recently, Xi did some nasty move - like a welcome message. Could be that Trump opted for today in a sort of revenge (because there were Chinese diplomats in Caracas)?

In addition: Russia neither China did intervene in Palestine. Syria, same. Still, Russia acts in Ukraine. Scenarios:

• they don't care
• they cannot act
• it's preferable not to intervene

I think Russia doesn't have the resources to intervene elsewhere and neither does China. I think this is probably the reason why they never intervene. Plus if they intervene, it raises the stakes for them in a way that is uncomfortable. They would however intervene very quickly if this was in their backyard e.g. see Ukraine.

 

[Deneb]

To avoid a full confrontation and save the lives of a lot of people? I don’t think this was a negotiation of Venezuela and the US alone, any of the BRICS member also could have been part of the talks to avoid the least of any bloody results for Venezuela and assure safety of the country plus other things we might not know but for the convenience of many too. Perhaps.

They just saved few millions in ukraine, that's how much they care for lives

 

[Phill4]

Very bad news, it feels like we're on our own, not even Russia or China can't do anything about, which is quite shocking and alarming to me. I've had enough of these UN talks, diplomacy left and right, it ain't working guys, period. Very very disappointed, simply pawns in this planetary sh.t game. What I'm supposed to do, meditate on "peace"? Ya, right, "peace through force".

Honestly speaking, the way i see it, this world is beyond redemption and the point is not to save it, it is not sustainable.

But if the 4D changes are to come, countries will NOT exist, so this idea of having too much of an attachment to one's country may not be the best mentality.

The monetary system may at some point collapse also. So just prep for that ahead of everyone else

I guess we all have to try and survive whatever comes

 

[irjO]

As for a deal between the three 'new' great powers, I don't think there was one as such, but there could have well been a sort of tacit understanding in the sense of: Ok you Russia are about to get Ukraine, and you China want Taiwan, so I'm going to take the liberty of taking Venezuela which is in my 'sphere of influence' so we can all assume we are 'even'. I don't think China would have explicitly agreed to let the US take Venezuela because China gets (until now) a lot of its oil from that country. Now that's going to stop.

Then there is this:

https://twitter.com/x/status/2007519414371975667

So, another reason to control oil is to influence China access to it as well, so perhaps part of it is for China to be confident that Venezuela’s oil will still be sold to them at equal or similar cost. But now the US gaining control of how much, and when. For how long the US will allow this? That’s another question, but knowing that Trump likes to make deals then they (China) would have more freedom or lest obstacles to fully take Taiwan then. Again there were some Chinese diplomats present in Venezuela at the moment of this happening, it’s a huge chess game going on here.

 

[Liliea]

+In a historic press conference that defines not the Monroe Doctrine but the Trump Doctrine, when he decides who stays and who goes in foreign policy, “American dominance in the Western Hemisphere will never again be questioned.”

+The United States will impose a transitional government in Venezuela until there is a “safe, adequate, and judicious transition” and that his country is ready “to launch a second, much larger attack if necessary.” As we had almost predicted, he does not want María Corina Machado or anyone else who does not have “the strength needed” to govern. “We are going to have a group of people run it until it can function again, generate a lot of money for the people, and provide Venezuelans with an excellent way of life,” he said before assuring that he knows “fantastic people, including people in the military.”

+ About Delcy Rodriguez, he said, “She is, I suppose, the president,” he said. “She had a long conversation with Marco (Rubio) and said, ‘We will do whatever it takes.’ She had no other choice.”

+ He seems very satisfied with the takeover of the oil industry, as in the future the “huge US oil companies, the largest in the world,” will spend “millions of dollars, repair the badly damaged infrastructure, the oil infrastructure, and start making money for the country” (the United States).

+Regarding Maduro, Trump insists on the usual, that he was an “illegitimate dictator” like “the head of a vast criminal network responsible for trafficking colossal amounts of lethal and illicit drugs into the United States” who sent “savage and murderous gangs, including the bloodthirsty Tren de Aragua prison gang, to terrorize American communities across the country.”

+Regarding Gustavo Petro, he tells him to “watch his back.”

+An important point is to continue with the policy in the region and “Cuba is something we have to talk about.”

Thus implying what is coming for all America. Psi ops and Ops lightning.

https://twitter.com/x/status/2007501848358596656

 

[axj]

I think Russia doesn't have the resources to intervene elsewhere and neither does China.

It should be really Brazil as a BRICS member and by far largest South American country that helps Venezuela (they have a border). Though they probably do not have resources for that and have been not that strongly aligned with Maduro. And Brazil likely is not interested in direct confrontation with the US either - unless they got a lot of support from China and Russia.