Video of an alleged spacecraft on the moon and the mummy inside.

[darthdo]

I do not know if you know them. I searched the forum and did not find them. Just in these days are being disseminated in this part of the world. The deputy added the descriptions on the website where advertisers. With so much material to misinform I can not believe they are real, especially the alleged alien mummy, but it is only a subjective assessment, because I do not have the expertise necessary to analyze this material.

"Ship found by the Apollo 20 on the Moon. In fact he found the Apollo 19 and later in a deal between the Russians and Americans together were on Apollo 20 to investigate that. They found and filmed the ship and had a woman inside mummified alien-looking stranger who led the Eastern Apollo 20, which he was called Mona Lisa. Also recovered is alien writing. The craft for his great deterioration is believed to remain on the Moon for thousands of years and is about 3 miles long".

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5dXQwPs6zDU

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xvsH3ayGrsw

Link to the page where the videos published (in Spanish).
_http://stopsecrets.ning.com

 

[combsbt]

_http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xnFJutgjmk8&NR=1&feature=fvwp

This video has more footage of the 'object'. I'd suggest muting it if you are not into french metal bands.

This whole thing seems to be based around the Apollo 20 mission, which was canceled:

The first mission to be canceled was Apollo 20. On January 4, 1970 NASA announced it was canceling Apollo 20 as its Saturn V rocket was now needed for the Skylab space station and budget restrictions had limited the Saturn V production to the original 15 flight models.

I found this on another site which seems to sum up the origin of these videos:

According to William Rutledge in August 1976 there was a classified space mission: the “Apollo 20”, which explored a huge alien spaceship. William Rutledge (according to his story, a man of 76 years old who lives in Rwanda, former of Bell Laboratories and employed by USAF) is the name of the “deep throat” who, since April 2007, has been disclosing information and spreading a lot of video and photographic material on YouTube, about the presumed Apollo 20 space mission. His user name on YouTube is “retiredafb”, and the most amazing footage he released so far is the presumed flyover of an ancient alien spaceship found on the backside of the Moon by the Apollo 15 crew.

The mission was soviet-american. Crew was William Rutledge CDR, former of bell laboratories, leona snyder CSP bell laboratories, and alexei leonov, soviet cosmonaut former "apollo soyouz" (mission one year earlier).

I checked out his account on YouTube and the user has complaints about YouTube in the "about me" section:

I have too many problems with youtube who never answer my questions, the new videos will be online an another site _www.revver.com, they are already there, and the new ones , the most important soon.
...
Some people oppened accounts using my name, tried to spoof email boxes, closed some videos, send invitationson youtube etc... To those who did the job; congratulations, you are well paid .
I closed my two rwandacell Mtn numbers. I'll open a site in cocoa island and put some other new videos here.

The account under the same username at revver has the videos but nothing about the user.

 

[combsbt]

Found an article relating to this in ufodigest:

_http://www.ufodigest.com/news/0607/newevidence.html

It is kind of poorly written but it goes over some seemingly corroborating evidence in support of the videos authenticity.

 

[darthdo]

Thanks for the info Ask_a_debtor. I will review the article.

 

[dannybananny]

Very interesting, thanks for info., this women is human but not quite like today's human races but something tells me if it isn't fake that maybe it's from time of Atlantis. C's said they had pyramids on Moon and Mars and when you look at mummy it's well preserved like there was some force field, and C's said pyramid in Giza was used for healing and if you leave your body it stays the same for some time. She looks similar to paintings of ancient Egyptians, at least her skin, and C's said that Egyptians came from Atlanteans.

 

[darthdo]

Very interesting, thanks for info., this women is human but not quite like today's human races but something tells me if it isn't fake that maybe it's from time of Atlantis. C's said they had pyramids on Moon and Mars and when you look at mummy it's well preserved like there was some force field, and C's said pyramid in Giza was used for healing and if you leave your body it stays the same for some time. She looks similar to paintings of ancient Egyptians, at least her skin, and C's said that Egyptians came from Atlanteans.

Exactly, I also came to my memory cassiopeanos said by those on Atlantis. Amerindian traits may be more than Asians? I think yes, and I remember, correct me if I'm wrong, that the Atlanteans (or one of its groups) has a resemblance to our Native Americans.

And Ask_a_debtor, thank you very much for the link on the page. Very interesting all the information that appears there and did not know. After all, then, then we should not dismiss the validity of the filming. Interesting.

 

[combsbt]

There does still to be some controversy around the person posting these videos, and at least one of them is a known fake. The one of the "city" is a painting by Bruce Pennington superimposed onto nasa footage. Some of the fly-by stuff is known to be from Apollo 17 as well. The launch separation one appears to be a clear fake as the ship is perfectly stationary and doesn't shake or move once as the pieces fall towards earth.

One user traced the email address and user names given back to some french computer programmer named Thierry Speth, but this hasn't been confirmed conclusively.

This is a higher resolution image of the "object" and it appears to be less of an object and more of a natural feature in this image.

I'm not 100 percent on this but it appears it may just be another elaborate hoax.

 

[Eongar]

StopSecrets, Rafapal, StarView ... His work, I believe it do with illusion, but in my opinion are not capable discernment. It is better to leave in doubt the veracity of the videos, you never know if they can be certain. But these groups I mentioned, for me not to be trusted. Disinfo

 

[darthdo]

Strongly agree Eongar. Especially to see the links and messages from the Galactic Confederation in the Rafapal's page. I have clear that webpages that you mention are not very reliable, but I must admit that the videos intrigued me a bit.

 

[rylek]

My thoughts when watching this were how would you go about leaking footage from an Apollo spacecraft shot on board? Not sure if you'd be allowed to take
your personal camera along for the trip.

 

[Alma.Innovadora]

_http://peterpetrellisite.wordpress.com/2008/08/18/una-historia-de-engano-parte-2-a-history-of-hoax-part-2/ - In Spanish.

(I remember the ships from the movie Predator, which also had to do with the Maya.)


It is speculated that the sculptures had relationship with Maya, Aztecs, etc.

EDIT: "Two ships metal figurines clearly reminiscent spacecraft. The top is three dimensional, while the bottom is a semi-two dimensional side view. It is interesting to note that the ship above bears a strong resemblance to an ancient ship found on the moon during the course of the secret space program (see screenshot below)."

Picture 3 "Ship found on the moon result of secret space program. It is estimated that can have millions of years, See the meteorite impact craters in the center of it (soon I will discuss in an article about it)."

A mothership in the form of "pure" where there is a control center with a driving character and other characters apparently also sitting in different compartments manipulating various controls.


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[combsbt]

These two images seem to be of the same object. The first one is from the picture Alma.Innovadora just posted, and the second one is from the first part of the video that this thread began with. It is interesting to note also that in the video, the first portion is of one object and the second portion is obviously not the same object.

Added: In the context of the link Alma posted, the picture of this object was separated from the other two. It was accompanied by this text:

Nave encontrada en la luna fruto del programa espacial secreto. Se ha estimado que puede tener millones de años, nótese los cráteres de impacto de meteoritos en el casco de la misma (Pronto hablaré en un artículo de ella).

My spanish is not that great but I believe that they claim this is on the moon as well.

 

[Alma.Innovadora]

Oops, Sorry, I edited. I clasped the three images for better compare... and, ready, add the missing text.

 

[Alma.Innovadora]

_http://grupoelron.org/temasextraterrestres/apolloXX.html

Years ago, i found this site, before reaching Cassiopaea. On this website (Spanish). They are canalized, with some entities, they tell the "truth". All events "alien" in the world. I'll translate the session, about of this ship. is the Group Elron, is FALSE!. So this material, it is not very important. It's disinformation. COINTELPRO! sure.

Apollo 20, a secret mission to the Moon​

Doublespeak

Officially, NASA does not believe in UFOs, but unofficially, yes, although, obviously, only the highest authorities are aware of Area 51, keeping the rest of the officers, employees and partners in complete ignorance...

The secret mission to the Russian-American moon, Apollo 20, in August 1976, was manned by William Rutledge, Leona Marietta Snyder and Alexis Leonor. NASA hid not to get in evidence, because one of the purposes of the mission was precisely to examine a crashed alien ship that Apollo 11 was detected on the far side of the satellite.

_http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_He2EGu7pKk

_http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qbncnnygZwk

All videos uploaded to the Internet (Youtube) on Apollo 20 are false, but the original film and is under possession of NASA., which obviously keeps it hidden. Rutledge had a genuine copy, but was visited by Men in Black - when not? - they took her with the promise that in a short time would be made public. Do I have to say that did not fulfill what they promised?

Today, the Moon is almost no vestiges of that once were alien bases, because their inhabitants have taken all their belongings, so that when in the not too distant future tourism satellite reaches the Earth, you will find that there are more than rocks and craters. Then the skeptics, showing his proverbial nonsense, say proudly, "Did you see that we were right?".

HORACIO VELMONT.

The spacecraft was scheduled to visit, the astronauts of Apollo 20 just measured 150 meters long, but it was used for interplanetary travel and had been built about 500 years ago. Nor was there any bodies inside. All this means that in the report to him by the Italian journalist, former astronaut William Rutledge had, with true facts, others who were no more than pure fantasy...


JORGE OLGUIN

On the moon there was never an alien civilization, but small contingents from Anthea, Bellatrix and Orion 3, among others, whose bases did not exceed about 40,000 m2, ie, reduced to at most 200 meters long by 200 meters wide. On the other hand, were not fully on the lunar surface but inside, and this is the fundamental reason they could not be seen from Earth.

The stricken ship, whose review was one of the objectives of the Apollo 20, came from Anthea, ie the same planet as the distressed craft in Roswell.​

THE ENIGMA OF THE APOLLO XX​

Transcripts with "High Spiritual Entities" or Masters of Light.

The truth about the interview with William Rutledge.


MEETING OF 10/26/1907

Medium: Jorge Olguin.
Interlocutor: Horacio Velmont.
Entity with a dialogue: Ron Hubbard, founder of Dianetics and Scientology. (by me: Wo! may keep their jobs and titles after death XD).

(by me: I will present, the parties consider important.)

Questioner: Was then the Apollo 20 manned by the three persons mentioned?
Ron Hubbard: Yes, that's...

Interlocutor: Specifically, then, why was secret?
Ron Hubbard: Because in the Apollo 11 and others Apollo had leaked other communications between the astronauts and the base of Houston, Texas, later made public. As a result it took the whole world sequences delayed television and radio July 20, 1969, in order to filter out any abnormal transmission ...you Follow me?

Questioner: Yes, perfectly...
Ron Hubbard: Well ... The Apollo 11 astronauts were not only saw ships craft on the moon, but also buildings, and there are some audio signals that have been recorded outside the official record at that time people who worked in Houston. And one or two have been released by the internet, finding himself NASA in the "obligation" to take the trouble to discredit them as false, as they always do, with they it that not want to give out...

(by me: CUT)

Questioner: here at some moment, was said that the NASA does not believe in UFO, in the sense that they are present here on Earth. But on the other hand it seems that yes, because they can not ignore the evidence... What would, then, this assessment?
Ron Hubbard: Quite simply, NASA officially does not believe in UFOs. But unofficially yes, because many of the employees working there and more than 40 years, since 1965, we are in 2007, have witnessed audio signals that have captured radar spacecraft, of films, etc.

CUT.

Ron Hubbard: There is also a matter of common sense ... One of one of the first objects have fallen unofficially released is what we all called "Roswell Incident" in 1947... you take out the account i have spent 60 years...
Questioner: It's true ...

Ron Hubbard: It's been three generations of workers in there... Guys who were 20 years are have disincarnate., as stated in our plane. And well, the whole generation that worked in 1947 are very few that are incarnate.

Questioner: Are we talking about...?
Ron Hubbard: I'm talking about the formation of Area 51, to project Majestic 12 , and so on... There are lots of people involved, hundreds of people involved that were later discharged by the age or they quit or because they are sick or for one reason or another... And they know for sure about the extraterrestrial presence on Earth. Moreover, and this is obvious, have been forced to sign a document which is forced to a permanent secret. To this must be added the threats to their families if they speak. So it's a secret because in 60 years have passed through the area 51 thousand people ... It is not going to kill all the employees who retire... It would be impossible, apart...

Interlocutor: Returning to the theme of Apollo 20...
Ron Hubbard: The mission was to investigate...

Questioner: The buildings?
Ron Hubbard: Not only buildings but also lead teams in a really fine line where you could measure all types of waves from short wave X-rays, cosmic rays... They could get all sorts of subtle vibration...

Questioner: You mean to leave the aircraft on the moon?
Ron Hubbard: Yes, in a secured place...

CUT

Questioner: William Rutledge said that the Apollo 20 mission was primarily to discuss a spacecraft that was on the far side of the Moon... is that correct?
Ron Hubbard: It is so, do you think he would be released publicly?
Questioner: No, of course not...
Ron Hubbard: So before disguise the mission, they chose to hide.

CUT

Questioner: There was also a city?
Ron Hubbard: No, no city, but semi-subterranean bases...
Questioner: I saw a film that went to the Red Rutledge we see the spaceship, and the logical question is whether, is real or fake?...
Ron Hubbard: It's a montage...

CUT and resume:

William Rutledge, was visited by men in black, they removed the original video and gave a false one, to publish it. Everything was staged, the interview, everything. They talk about the moon, is being dismantled by the main beings of the moon, Anthea. Had a number of 1000 entities. The reason, says Ron Hubbard: I believe that by 2008 the Moon will be completely dismantled... They do not want to leave any trace for anyone to see anything. What happens is they are also planning trips to civilian companies and it is very difficult to "buy" to everyone to avoid that they talk or keep it under threat, and then prefer to directly remove any trace extraterrestrial... Besides, no way to hide it because these tourists filmed buildings and immediately Would be transmitted to Earth and appear on the Internet... There is technology to transmit to all the news in minute.

Questioner: What about the "Mona Lisa"? Apparently the astronauts inside the spacecraft found a body of one crew member and named it so...
Ron Hubbard: No, that's a total invention...

Questioner: I understand the concept... On the ship, then, there was nothing?...
Ron Hubbard: Right...

Questioner: But what happened?
Ron Hubbard: Had a glitch in your field G and the field G of lunar body drew him and made it crash...

Questioner: All crew members were killed?
Ron Hubbard: Yes, and took them all... CUT and EDIT: Approximately 40 crew.

Questioner: In the report, the reporter asked the reason Rutledge, by hide the UFO issue and response, is that it was an economic issue related to the gold ...
Ron Hubbard: That would only make him believe an Indian 500 years ago...

END OF SESSION.


This page.... GOD!
Look this comments :

Q:Do spirits that form the Earth Planetary Hierarchy that are fifth sublevel plane? Why suppose that all members of this hierarchy is the fifth spiritual level?
A:They are the 5th Plane sub levels 5 to 9, Johnakan, for example, is the 5th level sub level 9...

Q:The spiritual guides, spiritual beings embodied, where are they?
A: Of the planes 4th and 5th

Q: Dear Professor Olguin, I would like to know who appoints every person his spiritual guide?
A: The Lipika... and I presume must be a matter of empathy. Although Light beings reconcile with all embodied beings, will always give priority to a guide that is more akin to us. Anyway, it will confirm in other session...

Q:Greetings Professor Velmont, this time I ask your opinion and Elron Group about Murphy's Law.
A: What happens is that the physical plane is random, and we only realize that something went wrong when it went wrong, but we not count the times that works out simply because we did not pay attention. Well, this is what I think

The Lipika.

The angels, esoteric Lipika are a very high order, which register all the events of world order and personal experiences in the cosmic memory, also known as the Akashic Record of the occult.

ANGELS???? Guardian angels? and if i remember, long ago we lost connection with SAO-4D.

 

[Eongar]

I have read Elron group. Channeled to the father of Scientology (sic), on one side. They criticized the Cassiopaea experiment, they says Laura is with the darkness and the cassiopaeans are dark entities. Other than that, total disinformation.