Videos Discussing Psychopathy - Jim Clemente, Profiler

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Not only was Jim Clemente a victim of child sexual abuse himself he was a first responder on 9/11. Laura mentioned it before; Jim Clemente must probably know more than he lets on.
I watched the documentary 'The New Pearl Harbor' about September 11 where you see lots of clips of first responders and people on the ground that were interviewed that day and that spoke of explosions before the towers came down, etc. Hundreds of first responders have since died. Jim Clemente was also a victim of these horrendous crimes. It must have given him a unique perspective on life. He contracted cancer, but managed to survive, whereas his colleagues are still suffering and dying. Maybe that is what makes him so likeable and human? He has been around. His talk is not just theoretical, he probably has a deep understanding of evil, OSIT.
 

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Allison Hope Weiner.
Her last name, imo, suits her to a t. :lol: :lol: :lol:
And Great Caesar, her nasal tone is grating!
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Yes! The way she speaks is soo Brooklyn NY!!!
Also find this on Wikipedia:

Allison Weiner was a reporter for the New York Times. She was also a member of the California Bar. In July, 2006, Weiner was accused of using her bar membership card and misrepresenting herself as one of Pellicano's attorney's to gain access to Pellicano in jail in order to report a story about him.
_http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anthony_Pellicano
 

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A new developement in the Miranda Barbour "Craiglist killing":
_http://news.yahoo.com/pa-craigslist-killing-suspect-39-dad-she-39-072205289.html

SUNBURY, Pa. (AP) — The father of a Pennsylvania woman who with her newlywed husband is charged with killing a man she met through Craigslist said he would support his daughter's execution if she is found guilty and even hold the hand of the victim's widow.

Sonny Dean also told The Daily Item newspaper (http://bit.ly/1kZb38H ) on Wednesday that he believes his 19-year-old daughter, Miranda Barbour, may have been involved in one other murder besides the Nov. 11 fatal stabbing of Troy LaFerrara, 42, in Sunbury.

Police said LaFerrara met the young woman through her Craigslist ad, which offered companionship in exchange for money.

Investigators allege Miranda Barbour stabbed LaFerrara of Port Trevorton about 20 times in her parked car as her husband, Elytte Barbour, held a cord tight against LaFerrara's neck from the back seat and then dumped his body in an alley.

Dean told the newspaper that his daughter was a heroin addict and is a liar and manipulator, but he doesn't think she is a mass murderer. "Miranda lives in a fantasy world," he said.

Miranda Barbour told The Daily Item last Friday she killed fewer than 100 people but stopped counting at 22. She said she lured a man into an alley in Alaska and watched as the leader of a satanic cult to which she belonged shot the man before telling Barbour it was her turn.

"Believe very little of what Miranda says," said Dean, of Texas. "She has a long history of extreme manipulation and dishonesty."

It is possible she participated in a killing in Alaska, he said. He also did not dispute her claim of being a satanist.

"The reason I think that the Alaska incident is a possibility is that Miranda ran away from home at least two times that I remember, both for over a 48-hour period," he said. "Once was around the age of 13 and once was sometime the following year, when she was 14. I don't know what took place during either of those 48-hour periods."

Dean said he prays for peace and comfort each morning for LaFerrara's family, especially the victim's widow, Colleen LaFerrara.

In a prepared statement to the family, he said if a jury decides his daughter should be executed, "I would stand side by side with you, take your hand, and silently pray that some good may come of this."
 

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The Craigslist Killers trial has been low key with very little information coming out in public. Both got Life Sentences with no parole.

Craigslist Thrill Killers Get Life Sentences
_http://wnep.com/2014/09/18/craigslist-thrill-killers-get-life-sentences/

Thursday September 18, 2014 - SUNBURY — Life in prison without parole was the sentence given today in Northumberland County court to the so-called “Craigslist Thrill Killers”.

Both Elytte and Miranda Barbour were quiet as they walked into the Northumberland County Courthouse. The husband and wife admitted to meeting Troy LaFerrara of Port Trevorton through the website Craigslist last November and stabbing him to death.

They say they killed him because they wanted to kill someone together. Last month both Barbours pleaded guilty to second degree murder. And today they were sentenced to life in prison with no parole.

“I’m glad they pled guilty and that part is done. But nothing will ever make this right and nothing will ever bring him back,” Colleen LaFerrara said.

The Barbours are young. Elytte in his early 20s and Miranda, a teenager. But Miranda’s attorney says they understand the magnitude of their sentence.

“I believe that we’ve discussed and explained to her what the ramifications are and that’s life in prison without parole,” Attorney Edward Greco said.

Members of the LaFerrara family addressed the court and the Barbours directly.

Troy’s sister Holly said, “They lack empathy and they are rotten to the core. “

Miranda Barbour had nothing to say inside the courtroom but her husband Elytte addressed the LaFerrara family and apologized for his actions.

Elytte told the family he doesn’t know what came over him and said, “No words can express the sorrow I feel and how sorry I am. “

“It’s something like you’ve been living with it for months now and finally we’re able to move on,” District Attorney Ann Targonski said.

Earlier this year, Miranda Barbour claimed to have killed at least 20 more people in different parts of the country. The Sunbury Police Department says it is helping the FBI investigate those claims, but so far no evidence of those claims are true.
 

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Jim Clemente has been named in a lawsuit filed by Burke Ramsey, JonBenet Ramsey's brother, over the documentary produced earlier this year, The Case of: JonBenét Ramsey. Clemente was part of an elite forensic team who re-investigated the Ramsey homicide.

Burke is suing for a total of $750 million, including suing CBS, the production company behind the broadcast, along with all the experts the production company used: Jim Clemente; criminal behaviorist Laura Richards; Jim Kolar, a former lead investigator in the JonBenét Ramsey murder investigation; forensic linguistics expert James Fitzgerald; statement analyst Stanley Burke; and forensic scientist Dr. Henry Lee; and forensic pathologist Dr. Werner Spitz, who was separately sued for defamation in October by Burke for $150 million.

For anyone who hasn't watched the documentary, I highly recommend it. It seemed rather clear watching the show that the mystery behind JonBenet's murder was that of a domestic homicide case, most likely Burke being the culprit. Burke suing a good man in Clemente, and the rest of the team, merely for what appeared to me as doing their jobs, and quite well at that. I really hope Clemente isn't found liable for his part in trying to solve an unsolved murder. :(
 

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Beau said:
Jim Clemente has been named in a lawsuit filed by Burke Ramsey, JonBenet Ramsey's brother, over the documentary produced earlier this year, The Case of: JonBenét Ramsey. Clemente was part of an elite forensic team who re-investigated the Ramsey homicide.

Burke is suing for a total of $750 million, including suing CBS, the production company behind the broadcast, along with all the experts the production company used: Jim Clemente; criminal behaviorist Laura Richards; Jim Kolar, a former lead investigator in the JonBenét Ramsey murder investigation; forensic linguistics expert James Fitzgerald; statement analyst Stanley Burke; and forensic scientist Dr. Henry Lee; and forensic pathologist Dr. Werner Spitz, who was separately sued for defamation in October by Burke for $150 million.

For anyone who hasn't watched the documentary, I highly recommend it. It seemed rather clear watching the show that the mystery behind JonBenet's murder was that of a domestic homicide case, most likely Burke being the culprit. Burke suing a good man in Clemente, and the rest of the team, merely for what appeared to me as doing their jobs, and quite well at that. I really hope Clemente isn't found liable for his part in trying to solve an unsolved murder. :(
Watched it a while ago too and Jim Clemente has really done a good job there (again!). What I also found most intersting is the analyses of the interview with burk after the murder and how the guy (a kid then)seemed to be unable to show any kind of real sadness or grief that his sister had died and probably was killed, to the contrary, he showed signs of happines and disdain.

I kept wondering if burke is a psychopath or has another kind o pathology. To this day, he comes across as a pretty happy guy, even when he is asked about things that a normal human wouldn't find funny, like the murder of his sister. I think at one point, the suggestion is made that there might be some kind of autism involved with burk. I dunno, the reactions and actions of burk just seem quite off and the case Clemente presents, of him most likely being the culprit, sounds pretty solid to me.
 

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Pashalis said:
Watched it a while ago too and Jim Clemente has really done a good job there (again!). What I also found most intersting is the analyses of the interview with burk after the murder and how the guy (a kid then)seemed to be unable to show any kind of real sadness or grief that his sister had died and probably was killed, to the contrary, he showed signs of happines and disdain.

I kept wondering if burke is a psychopath or has another kind o pathology. To this day, he comes across as a pretty happy guy, even when he is asked about things that a normal human wouldn't find funny, like the murder of his sister. I think at one point, the suggestion is made that there might be some kind of autism involved with burk. I dunno, the reactions and actions of burk just seem quite off and the case Clemente presents, of him most likely being the culprit, sounds pretty solid to me.
Agree. John and Patsy sure looked guilty themselves because it was screamingly obvious that the whole scenario was "cooked". But, there was information that we didn't have until this investigation which revealed that Burke was NOT sleeping through the whole thing and that changed everything. Now it makes sense that John and Patsy would look guilty because of the obviously created set-up, but at the same time NOT be personally guilty; they were just trying to protect their other child. Not sure he was worth protecting, though.

It was a terrible tragedy all the way around and this analysis just exposes all the theories about the Ramsey's shopping out JonBenet to pedophile rings for what they are: stupid. Doesn't mean that stuff like that doesn't happen, this just didn't happen to be such a situation and people went off in all kinds of wild directions because they knew the scenario was faked, but didn't have all the data to make a well-considered theory.

In the end, Clemente has formulated a solution with the available evidence that covers every item plausibly.
 

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I watched this awhile ago also when it was shown on a main stream TV channel. The case they presented was very convincing that Burke was likely the killer. A child very jealous of his sister and all the attention she received, in a spontaneous, outburst of rage hit her on the head, causing her death (over a piece of pineapple, if I remember correctly, evidence from Jon Benets stomach contents). The parents where faced with not only loosing one child but two and so did what they could to protect Burke.

I would think that the producers of this program would have anticipated repercussions for accusing Burke in this very public fashion.

Jim Clementes insight and keen perceptions are fascinating! I've also appreciated the videos presented here. More to learn.

As I was writing this, I see Laura has posted before me, laying out the findings as well.
 

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Agree. John and Patsy sure looked guilty themselves because it was screamingly obvious that the whole scenario was "cooked". But, there was information that we didn't have until this investigation which revealed that Burke was NOT sleeping through the whole thing and that changed everything. Now it makes sense that John and Patsy would look guilty because of the obviously created set-up, but at the same time NOT be personally guilty; they were just trying to protect their other child. Not sure he was worth protecting, though.

It was a terrible tragedy all the way around and this analysis just exposes all the theories about the Ramsey's shopping out JonBenet to pedophile rings for what they are: stupid. Doesn't mean that stuff like that doesn't happen, this just didn't happen to be such a situation and people went off in all kinds of wild directions because they knew the scenario was faked, but didn't have all the data to make a well-considered theory.

In the end, Clemente has formulated a solution with the available evidence that covers every item plausibly.
Pretty much my take on it as well. It was only after I saw this documentary that I got to the end of Dave McGowan's book Programmed to Kill where he discusses the Ramsey murder. I just shook my head at how far out in left field he went with his theories of pedophilia and that JonBenet might have been killed the night before, at a Xmas party the Ramseys attended. Clemente and the rest of the crew make a rather rock solid case IMO, and I will be quite upset if any court rules in favor of Burke. I agree with Pashalis, the interviews with Burke shortly after the murder and then 18 months later are disturbing in his glib, ambivalent behavior when discussing his sister's murder. One could blame it on autism, but I don't think that's the complete answer. Autistic children aren't empty of emotions. This was different, almost like Burke saw his sister as not a person but an object. His behavior in the years since have not helped, it just looks more and more like he is rather devoid of emotions.
 

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I haven't watched the documentary yet, but always thought from the get go that the brother did it. It sounds like this investigation will cement this theory for me.
 

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I wouldn't dismiss the pedophile angle completely. But I wouldn't necessarily blame the Ramseys either. I recently listened to a couple interviews with Stephen and Joyce Singular, and they uncovered a whole lot of stuff about the Boulder beauty pageant scene over the past 20 years. They don't presume to know who was responsible for the killing, but their general theory is that the Ramseys unknowingly exposed JonBenet to a sub-culture they didn't really understand. (The Southern conception of beauty pageants is much different than the Boulder one - they were probably unaware of how seedy a lot of the people involved really were.)

While they don't think Burke did it, the outline of their theory is similar: someone (not the parents) probably accidentally killed JonBenet, and the Ramseys were then forced to cover it up. The Ramseys, via the pageant scene, had exposed JonBenet to some dangerous people. If this contributed in some way to her death, it would explain the indictment that was recently released:

According to court documents released Friday in Boulder, Colo., a grand jury voted in 1999 to indict the parents of murdered 6-year-old beauty pageant winner JonBenét Ramsey on charges of child abuse resulting in death and of being accessories to a crime.
The indictment alleges that between Christmas Day and Dec. 26, 1996, John and Patsy Ramsey “unlawfully, knowingly, recklessly and feloniously permit a child to be unreasonably placed in a situation which posed a threat of injury to the child’s life or health,” which resulted in her death.
That grand jury heard a lot of evidence and testimony that was never made public. (And most of the indictment is redacted.)

One hole the Singulars find in the Burke theory is that soon after the killing, the Ramseys left Burke with their friends (can't remember their names, might've been neighbors), and the house had a constant stream of people coming in and out. If he had just killed JonBenet, that was a pretty dumb thing to do because he might have revealed what happened to any number of people.

But other than that, they don't really get into the Burke angle, and just dismiss the theory out of hand.

I think the Burke theory is plausible based on the particulars. The Singulars' might better explains the subsequent events (e.g. regarding the behavior of the Boulder authorities), IMO. And even if it was Burke, and there wasn't a pedophile angle to the actual murder, the stuff about the Boulder "scene" is a huge story in and of itself.

FWIW, here are the interviews w/ the Singulars (for the second one, only the first hour):

https://youtu.be/XSB3McnsSHw
Stephen Singular joins us today to discuss the updated version of his book, Presumed Guilty: An Investigation of the JonBenet Ramsey Case, the Media, and the Culture of Pornography. We begin by laying out what happened on December 25-26, from the 911 call to the discovery of JonBenet’s body several hours later. Stephen describes his personal relationship with the case and his involvement. Stephen and I then dive into the one aspect of the case that was been virtually ignored by most who look into it: pedophilia and child pornography. Stephen explains how Boulder, Colorado has long had a history of child pornography and in child exploitation. We discuss how the pageant world that JonBenet was involved in attracted a very unsavory and dangerous group of individuals. Stephen discusses how this world interacted with many people on the periphery of the Ramsey family and the murder of JonBenet. We talk about pageant photographer Randy Simons bizarre and inappropriate behavior after the murder, and how he may have known more about what had happened that night then he would have people believe. Stephen discusses the numerous pedophiles and child pornographers that were seemingly protected by the Boulder authorities before and after JonBenet’s murder. Stephen and I also discuss the mysterious poems that emerged that seemed to describe not only the murder, but the cover-up and those who may have been involved or knew of it.

Through out the interview Stephen reiterates the point that everyone involved in the case seemed to know that there was more than meets the eye. That the case was not as it seemed and was intended not to be solved. He lays out the theory that JonBenet’s murder and her parents cover-up are two separate but related aspects of the crime. We also talk about the partial release of the original grand jury report that substantiates this notion. The two of us also bring up an overlooked and important clue in the murder: JonBenet telling multiple people that she was going to have a secret meeting with Santa after Christmas. There is a lot of information in this episode so we will be having Stephen back on to discuss and elaborate more on the case.

https://youtu.be/GYau-bHufRc
In the first hour we are joined by Stephen Singular and his wife and writing partner Joyce for a follow up episode on the JonBenet Ramsey case. Joyce kick-starts our conversation by giving us her perspective on the case and her involvement in it. Next we move onto the overlooked incident involving a high level city official who was caught with explicit pornography (possible child related) in his desk at work. Stephen and Joyce explain how this relates to the larger issues at play in Boulder: prominent and influential people involved in an underground scene that were never looked at by the police. They explain how this is par for the course when it came to investigating these aspects of the case. I also ask Joyce and Stephen about the possibility that JonBenet’s murder may have been related to blackmail against John Ramsey. Joyce also elaborates on the strange poems that a handful of people (including themselves) received that explicitly named people involved in the murder and child pornography world in Boulder. Later on Stephen and Joyce answer some listener questions about the case. We also explore the larger question of why this case has fallen the way side in recent years. Stephen and Joyce both give their perspectives as to why people no longer want to investigate this case, but also the current developments that are ongoing.
And a link to the updated version of his book (only available via Kindle): https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01K0X71WG
 

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I was looking for a thread to post the following (vent), and I remembered we had a discussion about Michael Jackson and Jim Clemente's videos on cases against him, so I hope this is the right place!

Re: Re: Michael Jackson Dies
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So no, I'm not surprised that he was a predatory pervert. Maybe he was a psychopath of the feminine variety that we've been looking at the last week or so? They can sure take people in!
Yes, I also think that he could have been a psychopath! Jim Clemente was right about him and his point of view of the cases he discussed in the videos posted in this thread.

Recently a documentary was released called 'Leaving Neverland' where two people (Wade Robson and James Safechuck) talk about the sexual abuse (and much manipulation) they suffered under Michael Jackson. The documentary is long (4hrs I think) and I'm barely halfway, and it's difficult finishing it. Jackson clearly manipulated and groomed everyone, including family members of the boys. Taking them to expensive trips, having them stay in luxurious hotels, etc. that would eventually lead to the parents agreeing to their sons sleeping with Jackson alone in his bedroom 'because he seemed like a child himself, and a good guy'. In one of the boy's cases, they only knew Jackson for four hours in person, and agreed to their son spending the night in Jackson's bedroom! This sure points to him being able to take people in very easily.

Both men shared how Jackson would cry a lot when he was alone with them, which would make them feel responsible for taking care of him, to make him feel that he's not alone. Jackson also manipulated them into thinking they were very special to him. With one of the boys he had a mock marriage... A truly dark side behind the persona he tried to show to the outside world, that of a 'caring person who only wants to help children have a childhood he never had'.

So important for parents/caregivers/friends everywhere that you have to pay very, very close attention to red flags!

I watched some interviews with the two men, and their stories sound legit to me. Of course, you have the die hard fans who attack them on social media with one of them even getting a death threat. There were also some people in the Netherlands protesting against broadcasting the documentary on TV. I'm glad at least that there are people supporting the men. They both suspect there are many more victims... and I hope that them coming out will help the others in their healing process.

Interesting: In one of the interviews Jackson's lawyer over the years was interviewed and he was asked the question "Are you being paid for saying nice things about him?" The whole interview he had a serious facial expression, but at that moment he had this sneaky smile on his face, saying no. I wouldn't be surprised if he knew what the real situation was. FWIW.
 

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I was looking for a thread to post the following (vent), and I remembered we had a discussion about Michael Jackson and Jim Clemente's videos on cases against him, so I hope this is the right place!
We recently watched this documentary, and it was a real shocker for me at least!

I am quite well convinced that Michael Jackson groomed, manipulated and coerced these children/families for his own sexual purposes. The tactics employed appear much like a predatory psychopath, but one of the female variety (as I think Laura pointed out in one post). Very early on in the relationship, Jackson made sure to manage the impressions of the family members and portray the image of a lonely victim, almost like a damsel in distress in need of a friend.

After gaining their trust (which he seemed to already have) he would then widen the boundaries and gradually become more intimate with the children. Interestingly, one of the victims rightly pointed out that much of the 'grooming' had already been done BEFORE they even became acquainted with Jackson, simply because he was a superstar whom they all admired greatly.

In sharp contrast with the idea that Jackson "loved" the children, he would abruptly drop them in favor of new children to groom after approximately 1 year. This was a pattern which continued, and witnessing the psychological/emotional effect that this had on the children was very sad. He took what he wanted from them, and and promised them the world... only to discard them when they were no longer useful. VERY manipulative. He also pressed one of the mothers to hand over her child and allow the child to live with him for one year! After declining, Michael apparently makes it clear that (in his words) "I always get what I want" .

That the parents freely handed over their children is also extremely disturbing. I cannot help but think that the mothers knew, deep down, what was going on, but they passively accepted it for their own selfish purposes. Toward the end of the documentary, one of the mothers openly said that she was "partly to blame" for what happened --- but she seems to be deluding herself and avoiding full responsibility, because in my opinion at least, she should be willing to take ALL of the blame!

In fact, it was only after one of the victims had his own children and witnessed the innocence of the child, that he finally came to terms with what actually happened.

They have received some backlash from the public, the family members, and from the die-hard fans. However, the movie producer responded by saying something like this (paraphrase):

"These two men have zero financial gain from this documentary. Family members may have known Michael personally and they will insist that he was a good person. However, it is NOT disputed that Michael had a long-string of little boys sleeping in his own bed for a long period of time, and in that bedroom the doors were closed shut. Were the family members in that bedroom at nighttime to witness what really happened? No.

The only people who were alone in that bedroom with Michael were the children themselves. Therefore, there is no journalistic relevance in interviewing people who only knew the image that Michael portrayed to the outside world."


In review, I would highly recommend watching the documentary.
 
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