Weather Wars on Gustav?

daveOS

Jedi
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Has anyone considered WeatherWars.com ideas and especially their posting yesterday on Gustav. Isn't the timing amazing with the RNC and the excuse it provides for Bush and Cheney to stay out of the spotlight!?
 
Yes, we've considered it, however we think that there are a variety of reasons for "weather wars."

30 July 94

Q: (L) Will there be a war in the sky with the aliens?10
A: Yes.
Q: (L) Will it be between Orions and the Federation?
A: Yes.
Q: (L) Will it be visible on earth?
A: Oh, yes.
Q: (L) When will this be?
A: It has already started. Will intensify steadily.
Q: (L) Why are we not aware that it has already started?
A: Disguised at this point as weather. Fighting part still in other dimension. Will go to this one within 18 years. Anytime within this period. Not determinable exactly when. Could be tomorrow or 18 years.
Q: (L) 18 years from now is 2012. Is there some special significance to that time?
A: By then.

7 Oct 95

Why do you suppose "Opal" occurred
at time, place reference point?
Q: (L) To put a stop to the UFO conference in Gulf Breeze?
Does this mean we ought to stay home?
A: Up to you, but, suggest deferment, we could tell you of
titanic battle!!!!
Q: (L) So, hurricanes are a reflection of battles at higher
levels? Did the good guys win?
A: Yes, but not concluded, and we fear for those drawn to
locator because of sinister plans by 4th density STS.
Q: (L) Plans such as what? More weather phenomena or
something more direct?
A: Both, several options open to them, and in works;
monstrous hurricane to hit during conference, or tornado
strikes Embassy Suites hotel, or bomb blast levels
conference center, of mass abductions and mental controls
initiated in order to cause dissention and possibly
violence, followed by extreme factionalization.

17 Feb 96

Q: (L) Can I ask my other questions? Some people on the net
want me to ask about this HAARP thing... seems to be some
sort of antennae thing...
A: Disguise for something else.
Q: (L) What is that something else?
A: Project to apply EM wave theoris to the transference of
perimeters.
Q: (L) What does that mean?
A: If utilised as designed, will allow for controlled
invisibility and easy movement between density levels on
surface of planet as well as subterranially.
Q: (L) Who is in charge of building this thing?
A: More than one entity.
Q: (L) What groups?
A: INVELCO is one guise as well as UNICON and banking
interest.
Q: (L) Who is in disguise as INVELCO and UNICON? Are they
just dummy companies for cover?
A: Close.
Q: (L) Can you tell us if this is a human organization or
aliens, or a combination?
A: Human at surface level.
Q: (L) Whose idea was this project?
A: Not applicable.
Q: (L) Is there more you can tell us about this?
A: It has nothing to do with weather or climate. These
things are emanating from 4th density, as we have told you
before.
Q: (L) Is this something like a TransDimensional Atom
Remolecularizer?
A: No.
Q: (L) Is is something like what you said about the whole
South West going into 4th density?
A: No.
Q: (L) So, HAARP has nothing to do with the weather?
A: And also EM associated with same as reported.

9 June 96

Q: (L) Speaking of Montauk, Roxanne quoted at length some
information received from some Native American about
Montauk being used to change the weather on the planet,
and also sending out energy waves to generate anger and
other negative emotions. Is this one of the used for the
HAARP assembly?
A: No.
Q: (L) Once before you said that the HAARP assembly was a
continuation of the Montauk project, and was being used to
'transfer perimeters.' I guess this meant space/time
travel, correct?
A: Yes. And resurrect Antlantean crystal principle.

22 Feb 97

A: Violette mentioned the weather. Was that a bit "nippy" for you in
central Europe in December and January, Arkadiusz?
Q: (Terry) Violette mentioned the weather, and the changes in it. What
was the name of that movie we watched up in Tallahassee, I forgot the
name of it...

[Terry then spoke about a science fiction movie we saw. Aliens were here
among us, and were plotting to affect the weather in such a way as to
make the planet uninhabitable for us, but perfect for them. Naturally,
there was secrecy and coverups. Then the subject moved to the cell phone
towers that were noted in rural areas of North Florida. This then lead
to a question about the cell phone towers. First part of question lost.]


Q: (Terry)...transmit to us and back... what can be transmitted? Can the
negative energy be focused through these microwave towers? (Violette)
And what was the correlation between the strange weather and the
harvesting? (Laura) Because we were told that the weather changes were
due to the energy buildup of the wave. That was two years ago. And it
had nothing to do with the 'harvest.' (Terry) But it could also be that
HAARP adds to it. (Jan) Ok, well, let's ask... (Laura) Well, they would
love for us to think that HAARP has something to do with weather. 'Yes,
we're having bizzare weather. Let's blame it on HAARP!' because we're
going to think about HAARP... What a perfect... (Terry) Well, HAARP has
a lot more to do than just the weather. They can put all the
energy-based stuff that they've been experimenting on in one place,
because they can do whatever they want, just by changing the
frequencies... (Jan) Or, even just continue to mess the weather up, to
continue to create negative vibrations, worry and uncertainty...
(Violette) I guess the point I'm trying to get at is, are these weather
changes promoting some changes in the physical body, that's making the
physical body more 'harvestable?' (Terry) Could very well be. (Laura)
Well, it's all interconnected, but I wouldn't say that one is the cause
of the other, just to say that they occur... (Terry) But why, as we were
talking about earlier, is all this weird stuff going on all through the
media?
A: We told you that "HAARP" was being designated for
capturing and modulating electromagnetic fields for the purpose of total
control of brainwave patterns in order to establish a system of complete
"order on the surface of the planet" in either 3rd or 4th density.
Q: (Laura) Is HAARP in operation at the present time?
A: Yes, in its early stages.
Q: (Terry) Is the spreading of all these communication towers out across
the country the equivalent of a HAARP program on a continental scale?
A: Back up system.
Q: (Laura) So, they don't need the towers to operate the HAARP system,
but they are there as the backup?
A: Towers serve dual and lateral purposes.
Q: (Terry) Local and regional authorities can use the towers to track
people, amongst other things. (Laura) Is the weather being controlled or
changed or in any way affected by HAARP?
A: Climate is being influenced by three factors, and soon a fourth.
Q: (Laura) All right, I'll take the bait; give me the three factors, and
also the fourth!.
A: 1) Wave approach. 2) Chloroflorocarbon increase in atmosphere, thus
affecting ozone layer. 3) Change in the planet's axis rotation
orientation. 4) Artificial tampering by 3rd and 4th density
STS forces in a number of different ways. ....

Q: (Laura) All right, were those given in the order in which they are
occurring? The fourth being the one that's coming later?
A: Maybe, but remember this: a change in the speed of the rotation may
not be reported while it is imperceptible except by instrumentation.
Equator is slightly "wider" than the polar zones. But, this discrepancy
is decreasing slowly currently. One change to occur in 21st Century is
sudden glacial rebound, over Eurasia first, then North America. Ice ages
develop much, much, much faster than thought.

[Discussion of new scientific theory recently presented that the earth is
expanding.]
Q: (Terry) Is the Earth expanding? That's just putting it bluntly, but,
is the Earth expanding, how did you put that? (Ark) Yes, that's the
theory: the idea is that the continents move away because the Earth is
expanding, and this is much faster than you know, than geologists were
thinking.
A: Continental "drift" is caused by the continual though variable,
propelling of gases from the interior to the surface, mainly
at points of magnetic significance.
Q: (Jan) What causes the change in the axis?
A: By slow down of rotation. Earth alternately heats up and cools down in
interior.
Q: (Laura) Why does it do that? What's the cause of this?
A: Part of cycle related to energy exerted upon surface by
the frequency resonance vibrational profile of humans and others.
Q: (Terry) Ok, let's go back to the beginning of the session, when we
were talking about the acceleration/expansion on underground bases in
preparation for the harvest. Is that world-wide, we're talking here?
A: Yes, but United States is focus, due to tparticularly cooperative
power structure profile.
Q: (Terry) Do we want to ask about the power structure profile? (Laura)
No, we know what that is; they agreed to work with them. But, what I
would like to know is what particular steps are being taken, what
particular activities are being stepped up?
A: Acquisition, staging, testing of planned activity.
Q: (Laura) And what is the planned activity?
A: Control of absolutely everything.

19 July 97

Q: As you know, there is a flood in Poland, and Ark has to go
back, there is so much that must be done, but the
government offices may be closed, the court session may be
delayed indefinitely, God knows what is going to happen.
What is the source of this dreadful disaster in Poland?
A: Sopophoric screen alterations of the magnetic belt
overlay.
Q: And what is causing these screen alterations of the
magnetic belt overlay?
A: Influences of Acquiim.
Q: What is Acquiim?
A: 4th density overseer.
Q: Does that mean sporofic screen alteration?
A: Soporific/phosphorous.
Q: What is the purpose of this screen alteration?
A: Deterrence of colinear wave reading consciousness units.

28 Feb 98

Q: (L) I want to know something about this weird weather.
There have been a LOT of sightings in Gulf Breeze and
falling fireballs out in Colorado, strange weather, but,
to open the doot to this, is there anymore to be said
about the increased UFO activity and the weather and all
the other things going on at present?
A: Review early transcripts and predictions, leaving aside
"time" frames.

4 July 98

Q: (A) I am trying to write down some things about a
cosmology, and I have some questions mainly about the
coming events. First there was the story of the sun's
companion brown star which is apparently approaching the
solar system, and I would like to know, if possible,
details of its orbit; that is, how far it is, what is its
speed, and when it will be first seen. Can we know it?
Orbit: how close will it come?
A: Flat eliptical.
Q: (A) But how close will it come?
A: Distance depends upon other factors, such as intersecting
orbit of locator of witness.
Q: (L) What is the closest it could come to earth... (A)
Solar system... (L) Yes, but which part of the solar
system? We have nine planets... which one? (A) I
understand that this brown star will enter the Oort
cloud... (L) I think they said it just brushes against it
and the gravity disturbs it...
A: Passes through Oort cloud on orbital journey. Already has
done this on its way "in."
Q: (A) You mean it has already entered the Oort cloud?
A: Has passed through.
Q: (A) So, it will not approach...
A: Oort cloud is located on outer perimeter orbital plane at
distance of approximately averaged distance of
510,000,000,000 miles.
Q: (L) Well, 510 billion miles gives us some time! (A) Yes,
but what I want to know... this Oort cloud is around the
solar system, so this brown star, once it has passed
through... (L) It must already be in the solar system?
(A) No, it could have passed through and may not come
closer. Is it coming closer or not? Is it coming closer
all the time?
A: Solar system, in concert with "mother star," is revolving
around companion star, a "brown" star.
Q: (A) So, that means that the mass of the companion star is
much...
A: Less.
Q: (A) Less?
A: They are moving in tandem with one another along a flat,
eliptical orbital plane. Outer reaches of solar system
are breached by passage of brown companion, thus
explaining anomalies recently discovered regarding outer
planets and their moons.
Q: (A) But I understand that the distance that the distance
between the sun and this brown star is changing with
time. Eliptical orbit means there is perihelion and
aphelion. I want to know what will be, or what was, or
what is the closest distance between this brown star and
the sun? What is perihelion? Can we know this, even
approximately. Is it about one light year, or less or
more?
A: Less, much less. Distance of closest passage roughly
corresponds to the distance of the orbit of Pluto from
Sun.
Q: (A) Okay. Now, this closest pass, is this something that
is going to happen?
A: Yes.
Q: (A) And it is going to happen within the next 6 to 18
years?
A: 0 to 14.
Q: (A) Okay, that's it. I have some idea about this. Now, I
understand that, either by chance or by accident, two
things are going to happen at essentially the same time.
That is the passing of this brown star, and this comet
cluster. These are two different things?
A: Yes. Different, but related.
Q: (L) Is there a comet cluster that was knocked into some
kind of orbit of its own, that continues to orbit...
A: Yes.
Q: (L) And in addition to that comet cluster, there are also
additional comets that are going to get whacked into the
solar system by the passing of this brown star?
A: Yes.
Q: (A) I understand that the main disaster is going to come
from this comet cluster...
A: Disasters involve cycles in the human experiential cycle
which corresponds to the passage of comet cluster.
Q: (A) I understant that this comet cluster is cyclic and
comes every 3600 years. I want to know something about
the shape of this comet cluster. I can hardly imagine...
A: Shape is variable. Effect depends on closeness of
passage.
Q: (L) So, it could be spread out... (A) We were asking at
some point where it will be coming from. The answer was
that we were supposed to look at a spirograph.
A: Yes.
Q: (A) Now, spirograph suggests that these comets will not
come from one direction, but from many directions at once.
Is this correct?
A: Very good!!!
Q: (A) Okay, they will come from many directions...
A: But, initial visibility presents as single, solid body.
Q: (A) Do we know what is the distance to this body at
present?
A: Suggest you keep your eyes open!
Q: (A) I am keeping my eyes open.
A: Did you catch the significance of the answer regarding
time table of cluster and brown star? Human cycle mirrors
cycle of catastrophe. Earth benefits in form of periodic
cleansing. Time to start paying attention to the signs.
They are escalating. They can even be "felt" by you and
others, if you pay attention.
Q: (L) We have certainly been paying attention to the signs!
A: How so?
Q: (L) Well, the weather is completely bizarre. The fires,
the heat...
A: Yes.
Q: (L) I notice that the tides are awfully high all the time
with no ostensible explanation...
A: And low, too.
Q: (L) Yes. I have noticed that particularly. (F) I have
too. Not too long ago I noticed that the tides were so
incredibly low for this time of year. (L) And also the
signs in people - these kids killing their parents, all
these people going berserk - you know...
A: Spike.
Q: (L) What do you mean spike?
A: On a graph...
Q: (L) Just spikes, not the biggie...
A: Spikes are big.
...
(A) I have a last question which I have
prepared. So, we have these two physical disasters or
events, the coming brown star and the comet cluster, but
we have been told that this time it is going to be
different because this time it is accompanied by a plane
convergence.
A: Yes. Magnetic field alteration.
Q: (A) This plane convergence, or this magnetic field
alteration, it's supposed to be related to realms crossing
or passing. A realm border.
A: Realm. What is root of "realm?"
Q: (L) Reality.
A: Yes. How does the magnetic field "plug in?" Other
planchette, please. Carbon disturbance, as someone
"melted" crystal on top. [We replaced planchette.] We
want to stay on this general subject matter through this
session, for your sake.
Q: (L) Okay, in terms of these signs, these things going on
on the planet, these fires and so forth - you never said
anything about all these fires in Florida. You said
Arizona was going to burn, but you never said Florida was
going to burn...
A: We did not say it would not.
Q: (L) I know. But, it is really oppressive. I have read a
couple of signs in the last day or so that we are going to
have a change in the weather, a break, is my little method
of predicting...
A: Reverse extreme?!?
Q: (L) Oh! Floods again! Well, I guess floods are better
than fires... but, maybe not!
A: Italy and Greece are burning too.
Q: (L) Yes, we noticed that in the paper today. Is there a
relationship between Italy and Greece and where we are on
the planet? Some kind of psychic link?
A: Just same current malady.
...
Q: (L) Okay, you just said we are going to have a reversal in
our weather. Are there any other conditions that we
should be aware of at the present time?
A: Point is to watch, look, listen.
...
A: We are glad you noticed this birth of the spike.
Q: (L) Is that a clue? Is this one of those obscure remarks?
Yes, I noticed, the kids killing their parents, all the
shooting going on, the weather... is this connected in
some way to some other event?
A: 27 days of record heat out of 30, oh my oh my! Suggest
you awaken your internet pals, as they are too busy
chasing "goblins" to notice.
Q: (L) So, I should have something to say about this?
A: In Florida now, where to next? How about a shattering
subduction quake in Pacific Northwest of U.S.? We
estimate 10.4 on the Richter scale. We have warned of
Ranier. Imagine a 150 meter high tsunami in Puget
Sound...
...
Q: (L) Now, you have mentioned this earthquake. I know that
you don't usually give predictions, why have you done so
now?
A: We do not give time tables.
Q: (L) Anything else other than a tsunami in Puget Sound and
a big subduction quake... 10.4 on the Richter scale is
almost inconceivable.
A: Ranier... caldera.
Q: (L) What about the caldera?
A: Expect one.
Q: (L) Other than floods, anything else for Florida upcoming?
A: All areas experience accelerating "freak weather
patterns."
Q: (L) Okay, all of these freaky weather patterns and bizarre
things going on on the planet, how does it relate to the
comet cluster and the brown star? Is it related?
A: Human experiential cycle intersects.
Q: (L) Any specifice physical manifestation of either this
brown star or this comet cluster or this realm border,
that is related to these events on the planet?
A: Approach of wave stimulates precursor activity which in
turn causes effects which in turn stimulates further
"heating up" of activity...
...
A: Global warming, a part of the human experiential cycle.
Q: (L) I read where Edgar Cayce said that a sligth increase
in global temperature would make hurricanes something like
5 times stronger... given a baseline temperature. Does
this mean we are going to have stronger and more frequent
hurricanes?
A: Yes.
Q: (L) Will they hit land more frequently, or just spin out
in the ocean?
A: Either, or.

24 July 99

Q: (L) ...And, in relation to rumors, there are a lot of them flying around about the weather. What's the deal with all the recent weather activity? These terribly unusual lightning storms?
A: Increased static electricity in atmosphere.
Q: (A) Is it only in our region or all over the planet?
A: Latter.
Q: (L) Well, it all seems to be discharging over our heads! I have never witnessed such lightning.

4 Dec 99

A: It is just as dangerous and just as useless to "see" conspiracy in everything s it is to "see" conspiracy in nothing. We tire of conspiracy "buffs." They are nutty, and serve as perfect false sponsors to those who really DO seek to conduct widespread mental/psychic manipulations and control.
Q: Okay, that leads into the next question about the excessive contrail activity. (F) I read the articles about the contrails. There did not seem to be any way of verifying anything that was said. Essentially, you were left with the claims of this or that person, few of whom were trained observers, or who were taking all the factors into consideration. (L) Well, we noticed them a lot in the spring of 1998 when we had all the floods and fires later. They are THERE! (F) Yes, but the claims are that contrails were appearing in clear skies, at which point the sky became overcast as a result of these contrails, when the two may not have been related at all. Then, people were noticing cob webs or "angel hair" type stuff falling on the ground. (L) I agree that a lot of it is unverifiable and I haven't seen any hard proof myself, either; but they ARE there! LOTS of these jets flying about. An exceedingly LOT of flying! And, not only that, other things have been reported and photographed; strange streaks and lines in the sky, dark and light both - as though some sort of cosmic structure is bleeding through! (F) Yes, but you have to wonder about these people. I mean, the stuff about the radar anomalies was clearly an example of ignorance of both radar and weather. Oh, yes, big spheres appear on the radar, but those have been appearing forever! They are nothing but cumulo-nimbus blow-ups - what is called a meso-cyclone, and is very common. The only reason they are getting excited about it is because there is all this communication, all these satellite and radar link-ups, and now the average person gets to see what weathermen have been seeing all along! More coverage and communication just makes it seem like it is something new. People need knowledge about this! Sure, there is stuff going on out there, but people seem to be seeing boogy men behind absolutely everything that happens! And this is because they have no knowledge about these things. Why are these people going off the deep end about these half-baked ideas without bothering to get expert opinions, or even a number of opinions? Why do they promulgate all this nonsense to everybody else as though THEY are experts, with nothing to balance the observations in the way of competent analysis? Meso-cyclones, eruptions of cumulo-nimbus super cells are, by their very nature, perfectly circular because of the cyclonic up-draft! (L) But, the fact still remains, in my opinion, that there are a LOT, LOT, LOT of planes flying above us in the past few years! Whether they are dumping anything on our heads, or what, there are an extreme number of planes flying in these upper level criss-cross patterns. Now, whether they are just playing war-games, or they are spy planes, they are doing SOMETHING! What is the reason for all of this upper level flying that results in these criss-crossed contrails that everybody is seeing?
A: A lot of it is "training maneuver"oriented.
Q: Why are they training so many pilots? What are they preparing for?
A: Military budgets must be justified, you know. Review "Military-Industrial Complex 101."
Q: So, this is just training flight, justification of budget, and nothing more than that?
A: Well, we would not say "not anything more to it than that," but, when you say "M-IC," you have said a lot!
Q: Are you implying that there is a build-up of the Military-Industrial Complex for a reason?
A: To preserve status quo during "peacetime." This peace business is not very profitable, you know.
Q: Does that suggest that they are building up to set off a war so they can make more money?
A: Maybe if indeed, and if the populous can be hoodwinked. But, fortunately, the public is less hoodwinkable. Maybe the real enemy is "out there, " rather than "over there." Was it not always?
Q: Does any of this increased aircraft activity have anything to do with the increased awareness and activities of aliens in and around our planet?
A: As always. But, this awareness is factionalized and compartmentalized.

18 Mar 2000
Q: Whitley Strieber and Art Bell have published a book about a "global superstorm." Is any of the information they have given in this book fairly accurate?
A: Derived from non-human sources known for stark accuracy, when convenient.
Q: What makes it convenient at the present time for them to be "starkly accurate?"
A: Fits into plans.
Q: Plans for what?
A: Do we not know already?
Q: In other words: world conquest and the takeover of humanity?
A: Not as simple.
Q: What would make my statement more accurate?
A: Call it amalgamation.

18 Jan 03
Q: (L) We are a little bit curious about the strange weather. Is this the beginning of the ice age?
A: It is a precursor.

17 August 03
Q: (A) So we can ask then about this weather breakthrough yesterday, is it a sign of a break through in our own situation?

A: One day there will be sheets of rain.

[group laughter]

Q: (A) What was the metaphysical significance of Laura falling down today?

A: Don't be greedy!

[group laughter]

Q: (J) Can we expect an ice age any time soon?

A: wait a couple of years and check the thermometer!!!

[group laughter]

Q: (L) Is a couple of years a clue here?

A: Is it? Hmm...

9 Jan 05
Q: (L) Regarding the recent earthquake and tsunami, there is a huge buzz on the net that this was not a natural phenomenon. Some say it could have been a meteor; others say it was a US nuke; others say it was India and Israel playing around in deep sea trenches. Then there is the speculation on an EM weapon of some description. The New agers are saying it was the start of the final 'Earth Changes". So what really caused this earthquake that happened one year minus one hour after the earthquake in Iran?

A: Pressure in earth. Not any of the proferred suggestions. But remember that the human cycle mirrors the cycle of catastrophe and human mass consciousness plays a part.

Q: In what way does mass consciousness play a part?

A: When those with higher centers are blocked from full manifestation of creative energy, that energy must go somewhere. If you cannot create "without" you create "within".

Q: (L) In other words the acts of the STS consortium in trying to suppress steal and control the creative energy from those with higher centers may be the cause of their own destruction because that energy is uncontrollable. (A) Yes but they bring it on everyone's head also. (J) Maybe that is their plan, after all they want to destroy the planet. (L) Yes but I don't think that people like Bush and his cronies want to destroy the planet, but then they don't know much about what goes on anyway. So, anything else on that? (A) Well we have this idea that the US, UK, Russia and France all knew about the coming tsunami and failed to tell anyone. Well, we know from some concrete evidence that the US and UK knew, but what about France and Russia who also have these capabilities with satellites etc to detect such things?

A: Indeed it was known and suppressed and do not underestimate France and Russia.

Q: Is that related to technology or evil intentions?

A: Tech, though some "evil" as well. There is still some balance in France. In this case the "evildoers" happened to be in the know.

20 October 05

(J) I want to know about these strange formations on the radar image of Hurricane Rita.
A: 4th density “battle.” Also includes some “practice.”
Q: (L) They’re practicing with new weapons. (J) Some people said Katrina was the product of HAARP heating up the waters in the Gulf.
A: We’ve already dealt with HAARP and weather. Read transcripts.
Q: (W) (Quoting transcripts) “HAARP has nothing to do with the weather or EM associated with same.” (H) Which suggests that there is EM associated with the weather. There could be some EM stuff associated with the weather that isn’t part of HAARP. (L) 4th density. (J) Were any of the storms manufactured from 3rd density or was it a natural storm?
A: Mfg in 3D? No. As we have said… 4D battles represent as weather. But the “veil” is thinning.
Q: (R) So if there is more weather it is due to more battles, and it being thinner. (J) Possibly. The thinning of the veil creates more natural… (L) Or unnatural, depending upon how you look at it.



Finally, for more scientific information on what is wrong with the weather, have a look at the Comet Series which begins here: http://www.sott.net/articles/show/145683-New-Light-on-the-Black-Death-The-Cosmic-Connection
 
Thanks so much for the thorough reply reviewing weather related insights. Scott Stevens over at Weather Wars has gone through a recent maturing of insight into how cymatics are being used to effect the weather. Scott has long postulated of some covert power structure manipulating the weather pointing to the signs of the contrails such as you mention.

The timing of the arrival of Gustav is uncanny in how it takes the spotlight off the RNC while simultaneously raising the price of gas. While I don't doubt the potential of 4th dimensional entities playing stakes at movements on the global chess board, I think immediate players and means of movement demonstrate a certain amount of self made destiny.

Perhaps not in light of earth shifts noted below. Which I receive with the utmost chagrin at acknowledging their potential validity with regard to the region of the world I live in; the Pacific Northwest. Whatever chaos may befall the magnificent landscape, those powers beyond this realm that mean for realization in this time-scape due to their vantage point beyond time evidently have something in scope for growing awareness about the evil manipulation of technology. May the benevolent forces that bring forth technological fruit hold sway.
 
daveOS said:
May the benevolent forces that bring forth technological fruit hold sway.

"Benevolent forces" don't interfere directly - they live and work through us. If we say nothing and do nothing, they die unborn.
 
Yes, the definition of the doing is very much at hand, and I so much appreciate the additional consideration of the topic in the interest of identifying what that doing should be. Perhaps the recommendation here is that I get more dialed into subterraneal movements of consciousness, and I endeavor to do so, albeit with an inept technique at identifying what I'm getting at and an infants awareness of what I'm dealing with.

No matter if that's the sum total of this thread on the theater of Gustav, but in the context of ultimate truths about 9/11, is there not a way of exposing the overplayed hands of power that compels the power of hands to destroy to disobey? Have scales become too massive, and is collective conscious too deluded for an individual to have impact beyond "Power of Now" ethics of conduct?

Speaking from a fairly well insulated corner of the globe (for the moment) where we celebrate Labor Day with an end of summer music and arts festival at the Seattle Center and I roll through my 30 something year in attendance - living in a heart of city neighborhood where I have for 40+ years - all seems far removed from such concerns, but the chill in the air belies otherwise.
 
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