What are you listening to?

Miss.K said:
(damned! sound has really been killed by technology, people nowadays that have only heard music on computers don't even know what sound can do)
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You are SO right about this. Especially where distorted guitars are concerned. (vocals , certainly too, but, being a guitarist, that is what jumps out at me most) The Beatles are a classic example of this. Hendrix, Floyd, Cream, the Who Live at Leeds is another great example of fabulous guitar vibe energy being lost with digitization. - all the old amazing guitar band sounds also.

Not many of their songs 'sound right' that have been digitized. This is not just an old school fuddy duddy 'good-old-days' conversation. IF you understand the technology involved, it is obvious why. Anyway, the warm, harmonic distortion present in vinyl or even analog tape is totally missing in todays digital world; replaced by gritty, insectoid buzziness. Well, it is kinda there but it does not feel or sound the same. Amplitudes come off different too. But yeah - THE FEEL is totally diff and I don't doubt the therapeutic effects have been marginalized to a great degree also by digitizing.

Basically you are taking a smooth curving hill and making it stair steps. Massive difference in curves vs a series of right angles.

It cracks me up-all the people selling these sound-healing tapes, etc, but no matter how amazing your buddha bowls or pristine piano sounds are, it just is not going to be the same thing after you convert it to an approximation of 1's and 0's and slap it on a CD. Even if you re-run it through an analog system after-the-fact, there is still something lost in the process...something crucial to the sound.
 
BHelmet said:
Miss.K said:
(damned! sound has really been killed by technology, people nowadays that have only heard music on computers don't even know what sound can do)
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You are SO right about this. Especially where distorted guitars are concerned. (vocals , certainly too, but, being a guitarist, that is what jumps out at me most) The Beatles are a classic example of this. Hendrix, Floyd, Cream, the Who Live at Leeds is another great example of fabulous guitar vibe energy being lost with digitization. - all the old amazing guitar band sounds also.

Not many of their songs 'sound right' that have been digitized. This is not just an old school fuddy duddy 'good-old-days' conversation. IF you understand the technology involved, it is obvious why. Anyway, the warm, harmonic distortion present in vinyl or even analog tape is totally missing in todays digital world; replaced by gritty, insectoid buzziness. Well, it is kinda there but it does not feel or sound the same. Amplitudes come off different too. But yeah - THE FEEL is totally diff and I don't doubt the therapeutic effects have been marginalized to a great degree also by digitizing.

Basically you are taking a smooth curving hill and making it stair steps. Massive difference in curves vs a series of right angles.

It cracks me up-all the people selling these sound-healing tapes, etc, but no matter how amazing your buddha bowls or pristine piano sounds are, it just is not going to be the same thing after you convert it to an approximation of 1's and 0's and slap it on a CD. Even if you re-run it through an analog system after-the-fact, there is still something lost in the process...something crucial to the sound.
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Hear hear!
absolutely "not just an old school fuddy duddy 'good-old-days' conversation" I never considered myself a sound nut back in the LP days, but digital sound is really bad. The difference is huge. I thought that people must be deaf that digital sound ever got popular. Even electronic music sounds better on LP (I once heard that famous Kylie Minogue nanana song on LP, and that even sounded a lot better too)

Recording a cassette tape from an LP and playing it on an old low quality tape player, sounds better (it might sound bad, but not dead as digital music does)

The world has truly gone mad! (snif)
 
On the border - The Eagles. Paranoia about government surveillance from 40 years ago.


Cruisin' down the center of a two way street
Wond'rin' who is really in the driver's seat
Mindin' my bus'ness along comes big brother
Says, "Son, you better get on one side or the other."

I'm out on the border, I'm walkin' the line
Don't you tell me 'bout your law and order
I'm try'n' to change this water to wine.

After a hard day, I'm safe at home
Foolin' with my baby on the telephone
Out of nowhere somebody cuts in and
Says, "Hmm, you in some trouble boy, we know where you're been."

I'm out on the border
I thought this was a private line
Don't you tell me 'bout your law and order
I'm try'n' to change this water to wine

Never mind your name, just give us your number, mm
Never mind your face, just show us your card, mm
And we wanna know whose wing are you under
You better step to the right or we can make it hard

I'm stuck on the border
All I wanted was some peace of mind
Don't you tell me 'bout your law and order
I'm try'n' to change this water to wine

On the border
On the border
On the border
On the border
On the border
Leave me be , I'm just walkin' this line
On the border
On the border
All I wanted was some peace of mind, peace of mind
I'm out on the border
On the border
Can't you see I'm tryin to change this water to wine
Don't you tell me 'bout your law and order
Sick and tired of all your law and order
Sick and tired of it

Say goodnight, Dick (Richard Nixon)

 
Dakota said:
transientP said:
Dakota, have you heard Sufjan Stevens ?
I find his latest album "Carrie and Lowell" to be very calming.
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I didn't before, but I'm listening now. Very calming, great for sleep ;).
Thank you for suggestion. :zzz: :zzz: :zzz:
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My pleasure. Glad you like it.

:)
 
Stevie Wonder "I Just Called To Say I Love You"

No New Year's Day to celebrate
No chocolate covered candy hearts to give away
No first of spring
No song to sing
In fact here's just another ordinary day

No April rain
No flowers bloom
No wedding Saturday within the month of June
But what it is, is something true
Made up of these three words that I must say to you

I just called to say I love you
I just called to say how much I care
I just called to say I love you
And I mean it from the bottom of my heart

No summer's high
No warm July
No harvest moon to light one tender August night
No autumn breeze
No falling leaves
Not even time for birds to fly to southern skies

No Libra sun
No Halloween
No giving thanks to all the Christmas joy you bring
But what it is, though old so new
To fill your heart like no three words could ever do

I just called to say I love you
I just called to say how much I care, I do
I just called to say I love you
And I mean it from the bottom of my heart

I just called to say I love you
I just called to say how much I care, I do
I just called to say I love you
And I mean it from the bottom of my heart, of my heart,
of my heart

I just called to say I love you
I just called to say how much I care, I do
I just called to say I love you
And I mean it from the bottom of my heart, of my heart,
baby of my heart
 
Heimdallr said:
Dakota said:
transientP said:
Dakota, have you heard Sufjan Stevens ?
I find his latest album "Carrie and Lowell" to be very calming.
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I didn't before, but I'm listening now. Very calming, great for sleep ;).
Thank you for suggestion. :zzz: :zzz: :zzz:
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Yes, I'm a big fan of Sufjan Stevens. You might also wish to check out Sigur Ros for calming, relaxing music:

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I listened to Sfjan Stevens, seem to be something that I will like :)

I REALLY like Sigur Ros, their music is calming but I find it also moves a lot the emotions, it can bring up some deep emotions, I think.

About this... I was wondering if music can indeed be healing in that sense as well. Maybe for people who have problems of connection with self and block their emotions too much, to a point where they can't feel them anymore... maybe music can help bringing up this emotions and therefore, if one is paying attention, awareness of what they feel inside... :huh:

But, on the other side, I think too much of it can actually be sort of looking to feel those emotions as some kind of "fix"... so, for example, I could listen to music to feel all those emotions which aren't really mine but induced by a certain music, and I like to feel them so I repeat the process over and over again...

I don't know, I'm just thinking out loud here, hoping to read your take on it.

In the meantime, I share one of Jonsi's (he's the singer in Sigur Ros)

 
Hi Yas, to me Music does indeed bring out emotions, and lots of memories. If i listen to songs from the past, distinctly i can remember the point in my life and experiences that i had when i first heard the song. There are also very powerful songs with lyrics that retain meaning throughout time and reverberate more with current world events - i guess its a sort of "express" momentary trip down memory lane with emotions :)

Current favourite song:

Sixto Rodriguez

Crucify your Mind :
Was it a huntsman or a player
That made you pay the cost
That now assumes relaxed positions
And prostitutes your loss?
Were you tortured by your own thirst
In those pleasures that you seek
That made you Tom the curious
That makes you James the weak?

And you claim you got something going
Something you call unique
But I've seen your self-pity showing
As the tears roll down your cheek

Soon you know I'll leave you
And I'll never look behind
'Cos I was born for the purpose
That crucifies your mind.
So con, convince your mirror
As you've always done before
Giving substance to shadows
Giving substance ever more.

And you assume you got something to offer
Secrets shiny and new
But how much of you is repetition
That you didn't whisper to him too.
 
Yas said:
I listened to Sfjan Stevens, seem to be something that I will like
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My favorite album of his is Seven Swans, which is a folk album with sparse, acoustic compilations (with lots of banjo!!) that is kind of a concept album. It mostly deals with Christian spiritual themes.


[quote author=Yas] I REALLY like Sigur Ros, their music is calming but I find it also moves a lot the emotions, it can bring up some deep emotions, I think.

About this... I was wondering if music can indeed be healing in that sense as well. Maybe for people who have problems of connection with self and block their emotions too much, to a point where they can't feel them anymore... maybe music can help bringing up this emotions and therefore, if one is paying attention, awareness of what they feel inside... :huh:

But, on the other side, I think too much of it can actually be sort of looking to feel those emotions as some kind of "fix"... so, for example, I could listen to music to feel all those emotions which aren't really mine but induced by a certain music, and I like to feel them so I repeat the process over and over again...

I don't know, I'm just thinking out loud here, hoping to read your take on it. [/quote]

Yeah, anything taken too far can be a "crutch". If one spends all their time getting an emotional fix from music, then it isn't healthy or natural. But, I think there's the flip side that you mention above, where music can be healing/therapeutic. It probably depends on each person and what they need that determines the amount that is healthy or not. Of course, we can decide for ourselves that we need more than we actually do because it feels good, so it's probably best to not get too dependent on music itself for opening up emotions. We have EE for that too!
 
Rachmaninov: The Isle of the Dead, Symphonic poem Op. 29 - Andrew Davis

Isle of the Dead, Op. 29, is a symphonic poem composed by Sergei Rachmaninoff. It was inspired by Arnold Böcklin's painting, Isle of the Dead, which Rachmaninoff saw in Paris in 1907. He concluded the composition while staying in Dresden in 1908.[1] It is considered a classic example of Russian late-Romanticism of the beginning of the 20th century.

The music begins by suggesting the sound of the oars of Charon as they meet the waters of the river Styx. Rachmaninoff then uses a recurring figure in 5/8 time to depict what may be the rowing of the oarsman or the movement of the water, and as in several other of his works, quotes the Dies Irae plainchant, an allusion to death. In contrast to the theme of death, the 5/8 time also depicts breathing, creating a holistic reflection on how life and death are intertwined.
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_http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Isle_of_the_Dead_%28Rachmaninoff%29

 
Nice find Laura. Thanks.

I really like the sound of an acoustic guitar.

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Just heard this song again...


"I See Fire" was written by Ed Sheeran, Edward Christopher.

Oh, misty eye of the mountain below
Keep careful watch of my brother's souls
And should the sky be filled with fire and smoke
Keep watching over Durin's sons


If this is to end in fire
Then we should all burn together
Watch the flames climb high into the night
Calling out father oh stand by and we will
Watch the flames burn auburn on
The mountain side high


And if we should die tonight
We should all die together
Raise a glass of wine for the last time
Calling out father oh
Prepare as we will
Watch the flames burn auburn on
The mountain side


Desolation comes upon the sky


Now I see fire
Inside the mountain
I see fire
Burning the trees
And I see fire
Hollowing souls
I see fire
Blood in the breeze
And i hope that you'll remember me


Oh, should my people fall then
Surely I'll do the same
Confined in mountain halls
We got too close to the flame
Calling out father oh
Hold fast and we will
Watch the flames burn auburn on
The mountain side


Desolation comes upon the sky


Now I see fire
Inside the mountains
I see fire
Burning the trees
And I see fire
Hollowing souls
I see fire
Blood in the breeze
And I hope that you'll remember me


And if the night is burning
I will cover my eyes
For if the dark returns then
My brothers will die
And as the sky is falling down
It crashed into this lonely town
And with that shadow upon the ground
I hear my people screaming out


And I see fire
Inside the mountains
I see fire
Burning the trees
I see fire
Hollowing souls
I see fire
Blood in the breeze


I see fire (fire)
Oh, you know I saw a city burning out
And I see fire (fire)
Feel the heat upon my skin
And I see fire (fire)
Uhhhhhhhhh
And I see fire
Burn auburn on the mountain side
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C4GKfHqcUV Larisa Mondrus & Muslim Magomaev (the original trololo guy) - fantastic old-style tunes...

addition: one more, had to post this one: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RbUGdF1vo64 ЛАРИСА МОНДРУС ТВИСТ С КОСМОНАВТАМИ, 1966
 
Mr.Cyan said:
Hi Yas, to me Music does indeed bring out emotions, and lots of memories. If i listen to songs from the past, distinctly i can remember the point in my life and experiences that i had when i first heard the song. There are also very powerful songs with lyrics that retain meaning throughout time and reverberate more with current world events - i guess its a sort of "express" momentary trip down memory lane with emotions :)
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Music is indeed good for self remembering and reflection. That is good. And music can certainly be packed with emotion. Both the song in and of itself, and how it affects the listener in relation to their life and experience. I listen and remember where I 'was' 'then'. And yes there are timeless songs.

I would like to add that I think there is more to it than just remembering where we were or what we felt at some time. We are also growing and progressing (hopefully if we are working on our self) and the feelings will have a slightly different flavor after years. That was then and this is now. (well, kinda, from 3D warped time perception) There is some added poignancy from our present state and perspective looking back and recalling. Some added depth; an extra dimension important to notice.
 
Thank you, Laura for that clip from Gabriella Quevedo.
Such talent - it was magical to listen to.
Just beautiful.
 
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