What's on my mind?

Dylan

Dylan

Jedi
Well, I am truly inspired by the work and the work done here to enlighten. I think that I'm in a phase of my life where I've been able to synthesize and make use of some of the tools provided by teachers such as yourselves and Gurdjieff. What I acknowledge, however, is that on my own path the greatest obstacles are the ones of my own making. To quote Tolkien, specifically Bilbo Baggins; "I feel thin, sort of stretched, like butter scraped over too much bread." I have 3 bright young boys a wife with a great job and a business which leaves me with enough work for 3 of me yet the freedom to, on any given day, carpe diem and go home to play Lego with said kids.

I am genuinely happy, and have the love of friends and great times, yet there is a yearning for a different sort of existence that has always been in me. I know my fatherly and marital duty will keep me motivated to provide a quality of life for my kids, but I am aware that for myself, I need deeper things.

While my friends and family can recite sports statistics I am always left wondering how grown people can be so ignorant of the world around them yet are able to retain a host of completely useless information which is used, generally, to reinforce or locate other people for whom said useless information is highly valued. I wonder why no one seems to care or connect the dots with regards to what appears to be another event in the world of finance which might leave us all in worse conditions than the previous one. Or they make ignorant jokes regarding the 'dictator in the east,' Putin, yet don't quite understand the level at which he is playing, and playing quite well I might add.

All these things add up to me, and I wonder at times, if that genuine happiness is really a facade. Am I able, somehow, to put on a brave face, so to speak, when inside there I really want to knock their collective ignorant heads together and scream wake up people! We've been conditioned to be consumers first and foremost, and it seems that whenever the advertising authority ( media, government) tells us to jump our only response is how high?

Anyways, I am not one to be bothered by things which I can detect have a materialistic agenda, which is one of the things that attracts me to this group. It seems it is almost begrudgingly that the group here acknowledges the necessity to collect money and create non profit or charitable church's or whatever legal enterprise it is all done through. At least, I detect that it is truly the search for the truth and the human potential which seems to unite those involved here. I am blessed with a critical capacity which I feed, yet am aware of my own narcissistic tendencies, but I would like to think that if there were truly a materialistic agenda here, I would have been able to suss it out, and quickly.

As a matter of fact, when I first encountered this site, it was during research on 911. When I uncovered that the thesis was that the official story is false, and the actors behind the scenes were psychopaths with an easily influenced set of authoritarian followers, I was in agreement. Having been introduced to Lobaczewski's seminal work, among others like Hannah Arendt, I was able to digest this without dissonance. Upon further peeling of the onion, however, I was an still am to an extent, reticent to accept the ideas of hyperdimensional beings influencing our psychos. Given the cointelpro which suggested that 'Lizzies' were the true actors behind the scenes (which is actually now a fairly mainstream understanding; a reductio ad absurdum) the mention of these beings on your site and discussion boards initially repelled me.

Yet, I found myself fact checking on your search forum, as so much authorship and scholarly work had been done here. Once I managed to digest Laura's TSHOTW, I had a bit of a crisis on my hands. I could not discount the incredible scholarly work, yet the references to the wave and hyperdimensional beings plagued me, and still do. If I do think your analysis is correct, then the people with whom I can discuss this knowledge are basically limited to the members here, as NO ONE I know is of the same opinion. My good friend who is progressed in many ways with respect to the work ie. proper diet, no drugs, no booze, and has a copy of the wave series on his bookshelf...even he dismisses the paradigm.

So, this is my stumbling block. While I value and think highly of you all, I'm not sure if it's cognitive dissonance or my gut which has served my bovine fecal detection ability well that keeps me from going further down the rabbit hole. I am not here to detract from your work, and certainly not here to try and convince anyone they are wrong, but I'm wondering if anyone else has had difficulty accepting the argument from hyperdimensional beings like the so called Lizzies among us?

Also, the prediction of the C's regarding the nephilim invasion was incorrect for the time period indicated, and I reckon there is much discussion regarding this. Can anyone point me to a definitive explanation? My apologies if I could find this on my own, but I admit I am daunted by the vastness of the discussions here and am basically asking for a shortcut.

Keep up the good work! I'm hoping that you folks will recognize that I'm not here to do anything other than seek and uncover truth.

Thanks,

Dylan
 
A most erudite and forthright post, Dylan. I'm not experienced enough or as smart as some of those folk here to respond to your post, but I'm sure that if you keep thinking about the issues, it will all gel for you, and the Universe will provide a companion who can discuss matters with you. We 'll be here, anyway.
 
There is a maxim around here that is used quite often, along the lines of "1% inspiration, 99% perspiration", which summarizes the few taken here towards things that we may learn through channelling and other such sources. If you read around here further, you should eventually see that we do not take everything at face value when it comes to hyperdimensional lizards, and that in fact most of the research done here is oriented towards the world that we can directly see and experience.

There are many who accept "out of the box" paradigms such as the new age movement whole-heartedly, which, as you should know by now, are mostly comprised of twisted truths or outright falsehoods. So, it is very good that you are sceptical towards that kind of thing.

However, we acknowledge it as a possibility, and in fact one that has a very high likelihood of being true in some way, directly, symbolically or other. This view is based on evidence, of which there are mountains. If you would like to explore the topic further then take a look at the recommended books list, which is a good starting point for doing your own research.

It is not a requirement of the forum to totally accept everything in Laura's books, because they are a summary of thousands of other books and years of research, and naturally will not be complete with every piece of evidence. It is helpful however, to be prepared to put aside your current beliefs to entertain the possibility of the kinds of things that you are having trouble getting to grips with.

In short, there are no short cuts when it comes to real understanding. But we're not all true believers, and take everything as probabilities in order to come to the best picture of the truth about, well, everything. That sometimes includes going into unfamiliar areas, or those perceived as totally "whacko" by most of the population.
 
fwiw it's like all things (psychopaths included) you need to see and/or learn about enough consistant examples for it to become 'a real possibility'.

There are many who accept "out of the box" paradigms such as the new age movement whole-heartedly, which, as you should know by now, are mostly comprised of twisted truths or outright falsehoods. So, it is very good that you are sceptical towards that kind of thing.
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Agreed, question everything! From my own perspective I came from having had experiences and conscious memories of interactions with things that where 'alien' (and extremely unpleasant), this meant I was more excepting of strange things but far less critical than you are being.

The overall best approach though, and the only real tool we have on such a nebulous subject is that of looking for the tracks this particular animal leaves behind. When you are dealing with something that is 'invisible' that's the best you can do.

I think John Keels work would be a really good starting point - he makes no assumptions about theset hings but did a very good job of collecting footprints and observed interactions with high strangeness. Operation Trojan Horse and Disneyland of the Gods will probably be a good starting point.

If you want to dive in further after that the work of Karla Turner would expand your view further - it would be useful to use John Keels work and Laura's book High Strangeness as context though, so best to get through those first. Her work deals with 'alien abductions' and can be pretty heavy going.

On a slightly different note:
Well, I am truly inspired by the work and the work done here to enlighten. I think that I'm in a phase of my life where I've been able to synthesize and make use of some of the tools provided by teachers such as yourselves and Gurdjieff. What I acknowledge, however, is that on my own path the greatest obstacles are the ones of my own making. To quote Tolkien, specifically Bilbo Baggins; "I feel thin, sort of stretched, like butter scraped over too much bread." I have 3 bright young boys a wife with a great job and a business which leaves me with enough work for 3 of me yet the freedom to, on any given day, carpe diem and go home to play Lego with said kids.

I am genuinely happy, and have the love of friends and great times, yet there is a yearning for a different sort of existence that has always been in me. I know my fatherly and marital duty will keep me motivated to provide a quality of life for my kids, but I am aware that for myself, I need deeper things.

While my friends and family can recite sports statistics I am always left wondering how grown people can be so ignorant of the world around them yet are able to retain a host of completely useless information which is used, generally, to reinforce or locate other people for whom said useless information is highly valued. I wonder why no one seems to care or connect the dots with regards to what appears to be another event in the world of finance which might leave us all in worse conditions than the previous one. Or they make ignorant jokes regarding the 'dictator in the east,' Putin, yet don't quite understand the level at which he is playing, and playing quite well I might add.

All these things add up to me, and I wonder at times, if that genuine happiness is really a facade. Am I able, somehow, to put on a brave face, so to speak, when inside there I really want to knock their collective ignorant heads together and scream wake up people! We've been conditioned to be consumers first and foremost, and it seems that whenever the advertising authority ( media, government) tells us to jump our only response is how high?
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It is worth remembering that the best thing you may be able to do at this point is help those that are willing to listen. Spreading SoTT articles, working on SoTT, interacting on the forum and sharing your skills (of which you seem to have many - a useful one would be offering advice on the recent finding employment thread in this secion), and sharing knowledge with people in the real world.
This goes back to your point about 'sports facts', and even mentioning cognative dissonance means you understand that point of view. Interacting with people and sharing knowledge is best done in small doses and at a level that doesn't trigger that in others. fwiw
 
I'm doing my best to dive in to the materials here. I will admit to being quite skeptical of the cassiopaean experiment, yet it's simply fascinating stuff. The members here all seem quite knowledgeable, and I sense quite protective of the house here. But it seems you all have a history of giving new members 'enough rope to hang themselves with,' which indicates that there is a period of discovery when a new member arrives. I'm going to keep reading and posting and learning.

I know it sounds hokey, but whenever the days get shorter, I find myself drawn more to the intellectual pursuits, while during the spring and summer am rather drawn outside. Well, this winter and this New Years, I have resolved to make some important changes to my lifestyle. There is a small voice that recognizes that certain aspects of my behaviour are conducive to wrong being, and I know I need to change these things before pursuing the work more effectively. It is amazing, how these things draw me back into the loop, as I have made these changes in the past yet they haven't stuck, so to speak. I feel that following the wise words here and other places will help in my transition, and awareness of the little i's that are pushing and pulling will be a boon as well.
 
I did not have a hard time accepting the hyper dimensional lizards as it finally provided an answer to a question that had plagued me for years. The question was "Who has a life span long enough to benefit from the long term plans to control mankind?" If you look at some of the agendas perpetuated by some of our fellow "humans", most are very long term and will not be played out during their lifetime. However, if they are doing this at the behest of the lizzies for their own personal gain that does make sense to me.

Reading this was an important revelation to me and I wanted to share this with my husband. However, I was reticent to do so as he might think that I had finally gone off the deep end. I forged ahead anyway and found out he was receptive to the idea. He pointed out that most religions have the concept of demons incorporated into their belief systems and specifically pointed out Buddhist murals which illustrates these beings.

I realize that this is a concept that can be hard to accept, but for me it made me understand why the world is so messed up. I have always believed that left alone, most people just want to get along with their neighbors and live in peace and harmony with each other. However, if you throw in the lizards, psychopaths, and the OP's, you end up with a world like ours.
 
Thanks for starting the thought-provoking topic Dylan. You might enjoy this thread: http://cassiopaea.org/forum/index.php/topic,32901.msg451345.html#msg451345

It contains some of the more recent thinking on the nephalim references in the transcripts. I think it's important to keep in mind that the face-value validity of the C sessions is limited to the knowledge reference frame of the channelers, and since that knowledge increases through the years the C's have to communicate not only with Laura at the time of the channeling, but also the future Laura who will probably be able to make more sense of it with further research. So some of it can resemble "green language" sometimes.

For example, UFOs carrying or transporting people (such as Jesus or the Nephalim), in light of more recent research, is most likely to be symbolic of comets or asteroids, which can carry viruses and have been scientifically proven to be able to alter the DNA and gene expression of organisms. The appearance of werewolves and wendigos (which in various respects resemble the nephalim) during times of higher cosmic activity Is suggestive of these viral payloads "introducing" new 3D critters to the planet.

The 36 million nephalim in that respect is more likely to refer to a massive meteor storm transforming some people with latent nephalim DNA into the fully expressed, monstrous phenotype. But since those types can't really interbreed sustainably with people due to incompatible DNA in their full phenotypic expression, it's likely they are only really active when they receive these cosmic infusions. Hence, the resemblance to an invasion where a force arrives and wreaks havoc without really appearing to sustainably colonize.
That, at least, is my understanding.
 
Whitecoast, that's an interesting take on the matter.
Speaking of invasions, tonight and tomorrow we are expecting the GEMINID meteor shower, so fasten your seat belts!
Take care.
 
Thanks for the comments. Upon further reading, it appears as though the function of the C's is more that of a cosmic forecaster, rather than a predictor of events to be taken completely literally. I think it was a part of me which resists the concept of hyperdimensional realities due to preconceived notions as a result of a lifetime of programming, and it's beginning to unravel.

I had an experience last Friday in which I behaved in a way which I think you all would have appreciated as representing some of the values of external consideration. I had finished pruning a tree which suffered some damage from the latest dump of snow we had here in the Okanagan. The tree was on one property and the people who owned the tree watched me work the whole time and were quite impressed, I guess they've never seen a tree climber operate. The neighbour whose property was threatened by some branches which had fractured under the snow load was the initial contact on the contract, and when I quoted the job he and I had a good conversation.

Well, he came out of his shop once I was finished to my standards, which are grounded in the science and knowledge of tree physiology an biomechanics, and as I was pulling my rope out of this 50' silver maple, he very assertively stated that I had not, in fact completed the job to his standards and that I ought to climb back up and remove what would amount to around 50% of the remaining canopy. Which runs contrary to best practice, which I calmly stated and proceeded to inform him of my decision making process. There were a few more back and forths, and his temper was obviously starting to flare. I was doing my best to be considerate of his objectives, but after he mentioned that the tree expletive this and expletive that, I said that it seemed he was approaching the situation from an emotional, rather than rational perspective. To which he replied that my perspective didn't expletive matter and proceeded to sling a string I insults my way. I said, well, I'm done it's time for me to go. He said, well invoice me for the little bit of work you have done, I told him to keep his money .

The people who actually owned the tree he wanted me to ruin over his misguided concern for his safety we in witness, as was my employee. I asked my employee if I overreacted, he thought I didn't react enough, but he's young, haha. The owners of the tree actually phoned me Monday night to apologize for the way their neighbour acted and then asked for my mailing address so they could pay the difference of what I refused from the neighbour. They also mentioned that the guy had a history of causing emotional damage to people around them and that they gere all keep their distance. Apparently, when their daughters were young it happened that this guy got so mad at their daughters one day that the girls came home crying.

I'm not trying to say this guy was a psychopath, I don't have the evidence. What I am saying is that I kept calm, attempted to consider his side as best I could, but there came a point at which I could no longer tolerate his abuse. There was a time in my life that this likely would have resulted in fisticuffs, but reading the works of Gurdjieff among others has helped me ground in situations like this. And the universe rewarded me for my efforts!
 
After re reading the forum guidelines, not to mention a whole swathe of other material on this site, it occurs to me that prescience prior to posting is a priority. Properly done, it seems that a post will convey exactly the authors intent, and will not stray from the topic without a good reason that will usually return to the original post, and yield a greater understanding of said original topic...dot connecting, if you will. It does seem quite intimidating, when considering whether ones posts are of relevance, but it occurs to me that if a person has stumbled on to this site, attends to the requisite reading and truly comprehends and thus synthesizes the lessons into one's discourse, then one is already on the right track.

I would say that I'm part of the exoteric circle, but that there are still quite a few obstacles that prevent my moving forward. I'm hoping I can suss those things out, and apply them to right action in my own life. Because, as it also occurs to me, ones path comes across many forks, and it seems that the choices we make as to which road to take are in a large part determined by antecedent conditions and psychological inhibitors which muddy the choice and prevent our understanding, in the moment, of which path we ought to have chosen.

It is my hope that this forum accomplish it's lofty goals, and if you folks truly walk the walk which is illuminated here, then I tip my hat. All the while I'm contemplating my next step, in aligning my conscious mind to the goals described here while remaining true to the responsibilities and nature of my own existence in my small corner of the world. The evidence does suggest that this is not a load of huey, and that there really are those among the membership here who have found their forth way, and I would do my best to follow in those footsteps. I can understand how the larger percentage of what I have written this far here would constitute noise, and I hope you'll forgive me as I wrap my brain around the information and knowledge expressed here. I have always been one to ask questions when I don't understand things, and am not afraid of appearing foolish if those questions do lead to a more concise understanding. What I like about this place is that most of the answers to the questions and criticisms I initially had have been answered by further investigation, however much that reminds me of bein directed to a dictionary as a child when I didn't know the definition of a word or used one incorrectly.

So, apologies for the noise, but it's what I do when I'm not sure I understand some things, and gratitude for the patience that allows this seekers search to proceed not only unhindered, but with much needed guidance and advice.
 
In your posts you don't ask any questions. No one can be sure what you want from the conversation and you don't seem to be asking for help in any case. That leaves just those who might have a personal interest in some statements you make.

If you want to do something to interact with the forum and get the hang of things, one thing I suggest is to open one of the topics you read, summarize what you learned from the thread and ask if your understanding is accurate. This can lead to very useful discussions.
 
Fair enough. Considering what I read from Gurdjieff and what is in the FOTCM guideline thread regarding the inner circles of humanity, I considered myself to be exoteric. I am wondering if that is, in fact, an accurate self description or if there is some measure by which one can be more certain?

I will go back to some threads in which I felt a post might be considered noise and do my best to follow your advice.
 
Well, I have a question of which I could not think of a sub forum in which it would be suitable to ask. It comes from my children; seven and four year olds, both boys, who have recently asked me what I consider to be one of the most profound questions a person can ask. And of course it is frightening to them, and the four year old asked it with tears in his eyes through sorrowful sobs.

What happens when we die?

Flabbergasted, I'm left reeling by the depth of their concern, the fact that it is foundational to a human at such a young age to be confident in knowing about the life beyond death. Religions, most of them except perhaps what I've studied of the eastern traditions, are vultures here, swooping in to feast on the emotionally vulnerable and filling their minds with tales of reward in the afterlife for adherence to dogmatic doctrine on earth. But, the idea of a spirit or soul is not one espoused by our contemporary scientific paradigm either. At least my readings here have left me better prepared to answer this question, which is always one that leads to more questions, than my experience and understanding of modern materialistic science or the fairy tales of the kingdom of heaven.

To the best of my abilities, I responded by assuring them that their bodies will die, and rot away or be consumed by fire and that the ashes might be planted in some grove or scattered to the winds, but that our essence, our identity, our souls would go back to the greater reality from which they came. A simplistic explanation, I know, but it was the best I could do given my cursory familiarity with the teachings of the FOTCM.

I wonder what you folks would make of my response, my children's initiative and desire to know such things, and furthermore, what would you have said?
 
One thing I notice is that people always tend to describe the afterlife/beforelife as a more real, more spiritual place, as if the world we live in is less real or less spiritual. I think it sort of dismisses the importance of what we're doing here and now. And we want our children to be focused on this world, learning to change their reality with their efforts in order to realize their dreams, rather than trying to escape from it.

For this reason I favor the simple explanation that "death is a change of worlds". Whether you're in this world or another one, it will be yourself that is in it for whatever reason, doing what you decide to do. So at a certain level it is not so different, more like moving to a new country and making the mechanical changes necessary to go there and live in it. Although from our perspective, which is limited by our experiences and knowledge, those changes may seem cataclysmic.
 
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It is a "big" question. The largest scientific scientific research on this question that I know of comes from the late Dr Elizabeth Kubler Ross whose work is summarized in the following thread:
On Death

I find this post from Laura regarding her take on the difference between astral planes and 5D very useful as well.

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I wonder what you folks would make of my response, my children's initiative and desire to know such things, and furthermore, what would you have said?
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My son asked me the same question a few years back. I had told him that while we do not know for sure, here is what I have learned. The first part was necessary in the circumstance because he had picked up from somewhere that after death one becomes a star in the sky. First I rephrased the statement "we die" to "our body dies". Then, to explain the next step of separating of the second body (or soul) I had used the example of what happens when one is dreaming while sleeping at night. He could relate to the experience of dreaming where he travels to different places and has different experiences while the body is asleep on the bed. Next I mentioned that people report a crossing into a place of bright light. Overall he grasped the idea that one moves into a different kind of life after the body dies and was satisfied with it as far as I could tell.
 
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