What's Wrong With The Bees?

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The Force is Strong With This One
A 60 Minutes special report originally broadcast on Oct. 28, 2007. It was updated on Feb. 21, 2008.

What's Wrong With The Bees?
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2007/10/25/60minutes/main3407762.shtml

After replacing his lost bees from last year, the beekeeper featured in this story has again lost over half his bees this winter.
 
So this is finally hitting the mainstream media. I remember reading an interesting article on SOTT about this issue some months ago.
 
I first learned of the bee die-off last year. Then, after the initial reports, the story seemed to more or less disappear. It was strange to me that this should be the case because the deaths of so many bees seems to be the most immediate threat of food shortages and massive starvations on a global scale.

Coupled with this is the increasing mechanical behavior of people, at least in the United States. People seem so disassociated from direct contact with all the basic elements of life: food is grown on factory farms, clothing is manufactured in sweatshops, housing is built by contractors, entertainment is created by "stars", health is overseen by pharmceutical companies and HMOs. People are working longer hours.

This increased mechanical nature of society reminded me of a strange and disturbing passage from "A New Model of the Universe", where Ouspensky postulates that once bees (and ants) had the capacity to evolve just as humans do, and lost that opportunity when they became more and more mechanical. It is a warning about what may become of human beings if we continue to act as we are doing now.

In the 60 Minutes clip, Dr. Maria Spivak, a professor at the University of Minnesota and one of the nation's most respected authorities on honeybees says of bees, "They mirror us...we have a really close association with bees. They reflect what we're doing.

This comes from Ouspensky's "A New Model of the Universe" pgs. 60 -63.


Ouspensky said:
Indeed what place do the communities of ants and bees occupy in the general scheme of things on earth? How could they come into being such as we observe them? All observation of life and organization finally lead us to one conclusion. The original organisation of the "beehive" and the ant-hill in the remote past undoubtedly required reasoning and logical intelligence of great power, although at the same time the further existence of both the ant-hill beehive and ant-hill did not require any intelligence or reasoning at all."

"How could this have happened?

"It could only have happened in one way. If ants or bees, or both, of course at diifferent periods, had been intelligent and evolving beings and then lost their intelligence and their ability to evolve, this could have happened only becaue their "intelligence" went against their evolution", in other words, because in thinking that they were helping their evolution they managed somehow to arrest it."

"One may suppose that both ants and bees came from the "Great Laboratory and were sent to earth with the privilege and the possibility of evolving. But after a long period of struggle and efforts both the one and the other renounced their privilege and ceased to evolve, or, to be more exact, ceased to sesnd forth an evolving current. After this Nature had to take her own measures and, after isolating them in a certain way, to begin a new experiment."

"If we admit the possibility of this, may we not suppose that the old legends of falls which preceded the fall of man relate to ants and bees?...."

"The mistake of these non-human beings, that is, the couse of their downfall, must inevitably have been of the same nature as the mistake made by Adam. They must have become convinced that they kniew what was good and what was evil, and must have believed that they themselves could act according to their understanding. They renounced the idea of higher knowledge and the inner circle of life and place their faith in their own knowledge, their own powers and their own understanding of the aims and purposes of their existence. But their understanding was probably much more wrong and their mistake much less naive than the mistake of Adam, and the results of this mistake were probably so much more serious, that ants and bees, not only arrested their evolutionin one cycle, but made it altogether impossible by altering their very being."

"The ordering of the life of both bees and ants, their ideal communistic organisation, indicate the character and the form of their downfall. It may be imagined that at different times both bees and ants ahd reached a very high, although a very one-sided culture, based entirely on intellectual considerations of profit and utility, withouth any scope for imagination, without any esotericism or mysticism. They organised the whole of their life on the principles of a kind of "maximum" which seemed to them very exact and scientific. they realised the interests of the community according to their understanding for an individual to develop and separate himself from the general masses"

'And yet it was precisely this development of indivduals and their separation from the general massees which constituted the aim of Nature and on which the possibility of evolution was based. Neither the bees nor the ants wished to acknoledge this. They saw their aim in something else, they strove to subjugate Nature. And in some way or other they altered Nature's plan, made the execution of this plan impossible."


...."We must bear in mind that, as has been said before,every "experimenttof Nature, that is, every living being, every living organism, represents the expression of cosmic laws, a complex symbol of a complex hieroglyph. Having begun to alter their being, their life and their form, bees and ants, taken as individuals, severed their connection with the laws of Nature, ceased to express these laws individually and began to express them collectively. And then Nature raised her magic wand, and they became small insects, incapable of doing Nature any harm."

In the course of time their thinking capacities, absolutely unnecessary in a well-organised ant-hill or beehive, became atrophied, autmatic habits began to be handed down automatically from generation to generation, and ants became "insects" as we know them; bees evven became useful."

"Indeed, when observing an ant-hill or a beehive, we are always struck by two things, first by the amount of intelligence and calculation put into their primary organisation and, secondly, but the complete absence in their activities. The intelligence put into this organisation was very narrow and rigidly utilitarian, it caluculated correctly within the given conditions and it saw nothing outside these conditions. Yet even this intelligence was necessary only for the original calculation and estimation. Once started, the mechanism of a beehive or of an ant-hill did not require any intelligence; automatic habits and customs were automatically learned and handed down, and this ensured their being preserved unchanged. "Intelligence" is not only useless in a beehive or an ant-hill, it would even be dangerous and harmful. Intellilgence could not hand down all the laws, rules and methods of work with the same exactness from generation to generation. Intelligence could forget, could distory, could add something new. Intelligence could again lead to "mysticism", to the idea of a higer intelligence, to the idea of escotericism. It was therefore necessary to banish intelligence from an ideal socialistic beehive or ant-hill, as an element harmful to the community.-which in fact it ."

"Of course there may have been a struggle, a period when the ancestors of ants or bees who had not yet lost the power of thinking saw the situation clearly, saw the inevitable beginning of degeneration and strove to fight against it, trying to free the individual from its unconditional submission to the community. But the struggle was hopeless and could have no result. The iron laws of the ant-hill and beehive very soon dealt with the restless element and after a few generations such recalcitrants probably ceased to be born, and both the beehive and the ant-hill gradually became ideal communistic states."
 
Just went to see a local beekeeper and had a tour of his apiary and honey processing facility the other day.

The beekeeper hasn't seen the colony collapse syndrome the way it is being discussed in the news, but he says that keeping bees alive and well-fed is increasingly challenging.

Bees are getting weaker and are becoming more and more vulnerable to parasites. He has to monitor the health of bee colony daily -- that includes dissecting and analyzing bees under the microscope -- to keep track of what's going on.

Also, there is less and less room for the bees to forage. Farming used to be fence ti fence, now it's road to road, he said. Very few weeds and wild flowers around. He says he never used to feed syrup to bees, not he has to do it both spring and fall. That's the same effect on bees'health as if a person were to subsist on Coke and potato chips for weeks.

What was totally new to me is how automated and industrial even such small operations have become. Farm animals no longer reproduce naturally, they are artificially inseminated to select for super-producers -- and bees are no exception, really.

That thing you read about in nature books for kids, how when the queen gets old the bees start feeding a few special larvae royal jelly, the queens are born, one kills the rest and flies off with a swarm -- that stuff doesn't happen anymore. Instead, in the spring the beekeeper chooses larvae out of the best colonies, transfers them into artificial breeder cells and sticks them into a colony w\o the queen. The queenless bees make all those larvae into queens. Before they are to come out, beekeeper removes them, separates them and places in jars with the just as carefully selected drones for mating. Then he forms the colonies around those new queens, and lo -- a bunch of new hives are ready.

So yes, bees do reflect what's happening elsewhere in the ag industry and with people, too.
 
Telperion said:
So this is finally hitting the mainstream media. I remember reading an interesting article on SOTT about this issue some months ago.
Very much so. And now Hollywood. I am referring to M. Night Shyamalan's upcoming movie "The Happening". (Shyamalan is the guy who did 'Signs', 'The Sixth Sense', and 'The Village'.) You can watch the trailer by simply doing an internet search on it. It certainly looks exciting, but I wonder what the main message or twist will be?
 
freetrinity said:
What was totally new to me is how automated and industrial even such small operations have become. Farm animals no longer reproduce naturally, they are artificially inseminated to select for super-producers -- and bees are no exception, really.

That thing you read about in nature books for kids, how when the queen gets old the bees start feeding a few special larvae royal jelly, the queens are born, one kills the rest and flies off with a swarm -- that stuff doesn't happen anymore. Instead, in the spring the beekeeper chooses larvae out of the best colonies, transfers them into artificial breeder cells and sticks them into a colony w\o the queen. The queenless bees make all those larvae into queens. Before they are to come out, beekeeper removes them, separates them and places in jars with the just as carefully selected drones for mating. Then he forms the colonies around those new queens, and lo -- a bunch of new hives are ready.

So yes, bees do reflect what's happening elsewhere in the ag industry and with people, too.
Why do I find that so depressing? Perhaps because humanity, in its ignorance and hubris is destroying the natural order of things to such an extent that it will - comets or no comets - ultimately destroy itself. How devoid of basic intuition and natural intelligence is humanity to do such things?

Reading agricultural and farming 'advances' is like reading Edgar Cayce's descriptions of Atlantis - it is horrific and, quite frankly, if this is the 'best' that humanity can do - then a comet swarm is the best we can ask for. Apologies for the rant - but really - what other species is so ignorant and self-important to think that they can control and adjust every natural aspect of life on a planet and not suffer the consequences?
 
freetrinity said:
What was totally new to me is how automated and industrial even such small operations have become. Farm animals no longer reproduce naturally, they are artificially inseminated to select for super-producers -- and bees are no exception, really.

That thing you read about in nature books for kids, how when the queen gets old the bees start feeding a few special larvae royal jelly, the queens are born, one kills the rest and flies off with a swarm -- that stuff doesn't happen anymore. Instead, in the spring the beekeeper chooses larvae out of the best colonies, transfers them into artificial breeder cells and sticks them into a colony w\o the queen. The queenless bees make all those larvae into queens. Before they are to come out, beekeeper removes them, separates them and places in jars with the just as carefully selected drones for mating. Then he forms the colonies around those new queens, and lo -- a bunch of new hives are ready.

So yes, bees do reflect what's happening elsewhere in the ag industry and with people, too.
It seems like everything in this world, including natural selection is becoming more and more sterile, controlled and lacking in the creative process needed to keep it going. I agree wholeheartedly with Anart's rant, and so should we all.

This ongoing need humanity has to have control over everything around us is numbing us to the creative source and procecess that allowed us to get to this precipice in the first place. We seem to continually drive towards more mechanization, more control, which in turn creates a more conrtolled and mehanical world around us. The creative and natural processes that are natural and "normal" should lead to an abundance of life then, instead we have actively sought to deny the creative process, which has lead to whale, dolphin, marine life, insect life, and avian life dying off in greater numbers than we have ever seen in our lifetimes. No wonder we are in a period of mass extinction as has been suggested before on site and elsewhwere, when we are stimying the creative processes in the world around us that may very well help us humans and the animal and plant life around us survive a cometary bombardment. My apologies for making this a double rant, but sometimes you gotta let it out.
 
anart said:
Apologies for the rant - but really - what other species is so ignorant and self-important to think that they can control and adjust every natural aspect of life on a planet and not suffer the consequences?
No apologies needed. Stuff like this makes me want to scream and cry (and then get very depressed and/or fearful of the future) because greed and the need for control eventually destroys. Those who think they can "win" and beat the Universe using such entropic tactics are, as it has been pointed out on this forum, like the virus that doesn't realize (or ignores the fact due to wishful thinking) that they will eventually die along with the host.

The PTB who foment this attitude towards life probably believe that they are being very clever and creative. The rulers here on the BBM probably also believe in their hubris that their seed warehouses in Norway, DNA bases on the moon, and underground bunkers will save them in the end. (However, their hyperdimensional Entropic Overlords may have a few unpleasant surprises in store for them, if even a part of the C's information regarding replacement proves to be correct.)

After recognizing that I, too, am responsible for being in this prison planet due to my ignorance and selfishness, my fear lifts and I start to think: Heck, I'd rather get hit by a comet, drown, or starve if that's what it takes to learn a lesson or two. I'm actually looking forward to receiving some shocks as crazy as that may sound. Aside from some emotional suffering and stupidity, my life here in the STS capital of the USA has been far too cushy at this point. I was asleep (still am to some degree) for far too long while the world burned and the entropic forces ruled. It's not easy to stare reality in the face and see where it's going. A rant can be creative if it leads to action or faith that the Universe is quite capable of taking care of itself.
 
I thought this would be relevant here.
-Tree
p.s. sorry I don't know how to copy text in a separate box...

http://www.organicconsumers.org/articles/article_14192.cfm

EPA is Hiding Colony Collapse Disorder Information
EPA Buzz Kill: Is the Agency Hiding Colony Collapse Disorder Information?
Natural Resources Defense Council, via Common Dreams, August 18, 2008
Straight to the Source


NRDC Forced to Sue to Get Public Records on Bee Mystery

WASHINGTON - August 18 - The Natural Resources Defense Council filed a lawsuit today to uncover critical information that the US government is withholding about the risks posed by pesticides to honey bees. NRDC legal experts and a leading bee researcher are convinced that the US Environmental Protection Agency (EPA) has evidence of connections between pesticides and the mysterious honey bee die-offs reported across the country. The phenomenon has come to be called "colony collapse disorder," or CCD, and it is already proving to have disastrous consequences for American agriculture and the $15 billion worth of crops pollinated by bees every year.

EPA has failed to respond to NRDC's Freedom of Information Act request for agency records concerning the toxicity of pesticides to bees, forcing the legal action.

"Recently approved pesticides have been implicated in massive bee die-offs and are the focus of increasing scientific scrutiny," said NRDC Senior Attorney Aaron Colangelo. "EPA should be evaluating the risks to bees before approving new pesticides, but now refuses to tell the public what it knows. Pesticide restrictions might be at the heart of the solution to this growing crisis, so why hide the information they should be using to make those decisions?"

In 2003, EPA granted a registration to a new pesticide manufactured by Bayer CropScience under the condition that Bayer submit studies about its product's impact on bees. EPA has refused to disclose the results of these studies, or if the studies have even been submitted. The pesticide in question, clothianidin, recently was banned in Germany due to concerns about its impact on bees. A similar insecticide was banned in France for the same reason a couple of years before. In the United States, these chemicals still are in use despite a growing consensus among bee specialists that pesticides, including clothianidin and its chemical cousins, may contribute to CCD.

In the past two years, some American beekeepers have reported unexplained losses of 30-90% of the bees in their hives. According to the U.S. Department of Agriculture (USDA), bees pollinate $15 billion worth of crops grown in America. USDA also claims that one out of every three mouthfuls of food in the typical American diet has a connection to bee pollination. As the die-offs worsen, Americans will see their food costs increase.

Despite bees' critical role for farmers, consumers, and the environment, the federal government has been slow to address the die-off since the alarm bells started in 2006. In recent Congressional hearings, USDA was unable to account for the $20 million that Congress has allocated to the department for fighting CCD in the last two years.

"This is a real mystery right now," said Dr. Gabriela Chavarria, director of NRDC's Science Center. "EPA needs to help shed some light so that researchers can get to work on this problem. This isn't just an issue for farmers -- this is an issue that concerns us all. Just try to imagine a pizza without the contribution of bees! No tomatoes. No cheese. No peppers. If you eat apples, cucumbers, broccoli, onions, squash, carrots, avocados, or cherries, you need to be concerned."

Chavarria has spent more than 20 years studying bees, and has published a number of academic papers on the taxonomy, behavior and distribution of native bees.

NRDC filed the lawsuit today in federal court in Washington DC. In documents to be filed next month, NRDC will ask for a court order directing EPA to disclose its information about pesticides and bee toxicity.

More information on CCD can be found at NRDC's www.BeeSafe.org web site.

The Natural Resources Defense Council is a national, nonprofit organization of scientists, lawyers and environmental specialists dedicated to protecting public health and the environment. Founded in 1970, NRDC has 1.2 million members and online activists, served from offices in New York, Washington, Chicago, Los Angeles, San Francisco and Beijing.


CONTACT: Natural Resources Defense Council (NRDC) Josh Mogerman at 312/780-7424 jmogerman@nrdc.org
 
anart said:
How devoid of basic intuition and natural intelligence is humanity to do such things?
Reading agricultural and farming 'advances' is like reading Edgar Cayce's descriptions of Atlantis - it is horrific and, quite frankly, if this is the 'best' that humanity can do - then a comet swarm is the best we can ask for. Apologies for the rant - but really - what other species is so ignorant and self-important to think that they can control and adjust every natural aspect of life on a planet and not suffer the consequences?
I wholeheartedly agree with Anart's rant. These days I'm thinking the two most key words in these types of discussions are: Atlantis Replay.
Appollynon said:
It seems like everything in this world, including natural selection is becoming more and more sterile, controlled and lacking in the creative process needed to keep it going. I agree wholeheartedly with Anart's rant, and so should we all.
This ongoing need humanity has to have control over everything around us is numbing us to the creative source and procecess that allowed us to get to this precipice in the first place. We seem to continually drive towards more mechanization, more control, which in turn creates a more conrtolled and mehanical world around us. The creative and natural processes that are natural and "normal" should lead to an abundance of life then, instead we have actively sought to deny the creative process, which has lead to whale, dolphin, marine life, insect life, and avian life dying off in greater numbers than we have ever seen in our lifetimes. No wonder we are in a period of mass extinction as has been suggested before on site and elsewhwere, when we are stimying the creative processes in the world around us that may very well help us humans and the animal and plant life around us survive a cometary bombardment. My apologies for making this a double rant, but sometimes you gotta let it out.
I know I'm going off-topic a bit here, but wish to comment on the "rants". (However, my partner just mentioned that she's going to study up on starting a hive/haven for the wild bees here in No. New Mex. (they're healthy and flourishing around here. She's been outraged enough to suggest a sticker reading "FREE THE BEES!", and I agree.)
We just took a 3-week road trip to So. Calif. and back through Nevada and Arizona. Having spent the last 6 months in the mountains of New Mex., the only thing we could say about CA is that "they got the Scrambler [our term] running at full blast" :O, and "this thing has gotta go down, and it feels like SOON!" :scared:. Just our 'feeling-reaction' to what's absolutely anti-natural and anti-life. Passing through central Nev. where "vent pipes" are coming outta the ground for hundreds of miles in every direction (along with mounds and berms - vast underground stuff goin on) and past Area 51, we noticed acres and acres of dead and dying forests of pine and aspen. This is all downwind of said installations. Again, through NE New Mex. the same thing - dead forests - downwind of Los Alamos labs. Also no birds.
But the crucial experience was on Second Mesa on Hopi-land, where we saw beautiful green desert and abundant healthy corn and other crops, and where we had the privilege of witnessing/participating in the Hopi Flute Dance Ceremony in one of the villages atop the mesa. As the clan dancers (men, women, kids) prepared below on the desert floor massive clouds began surrounding the mesa. Our faces and exposed parts were subjected to a fierce sand-blasting from the winds. As they reached the top, entering the 'plaza' and spreading their corn-flour designs, all heck broke loose with thunder and lightning and heavy rain. For an hour and a half we stood drenched in wonder (no umbrellas allowed!). My partner commented that it was the strongest medicine she'd ever seen. Unscientifically, I would say that that was the CLEANEST environment I've been in in all my travels. [I witnessed the same thing happen in '82 at the Snake Dance.] The people were so joyous and ecstatic and friendly, the kids happy, well behaved, attentive and serious. Elders greeted us matter-of-factly even though supposedly 'religious dances' are Off Limits to 'outsiders'.
I just mention this as, perhaps, an example of "The creative and natural processes that are natural and "normal" [which] should lead to an abundance of life...." as mentioned by Appollynon. ;) Seein as we're obviously all in deep doo-doo, it helps to see these pockets of Sanity/Reality where they exist, and where human beings are living like they oughta be. And maybe learn somethin from these type of core-soul-altering experiences. [I'm just not willing to diss 'all ceremony/ritual' as some on the forum are wont to do - "feeding 4D STS"] Ya had to be there...... :cool2:
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The Earth and myself are of one mind. (Chief Joseph of the Nez Perce)
 
This link has already been posted on the main SOTT page, but here it is again:

http://www.greenrightnow.com/2008/06/23/germany-and-france-ban-pesticides-linked-to-bee-deaths-geneticist-urges-us-ban-would-save-the-bees/

The address says it all really. If the two strongest EU member states ban these pesticides, maybe the others will follow.

It may take a lot more doing in the US, where farming policy seems to be dictated by mega-corporations like Monsanto. The same is true in Britain, to a lesser degree.

And it is also possible that GM crops are contributing to the bee population decline, osit.
 
More in the news today:

Bayer on defensive in bee deaths
German authorities look into allegation that RTP maker's pesticide harms environment

http://www.newsobserver.com/business/story/1193866.html
This from the local newspaper of Raleigh-Durham, NC, where Bayer CropScience has its US headquarters.

Sabine Vollmer, Staff Writer
Bayer CropScience is facing scrutiny because of the effect one of its best-selling pesticides has had on honeybees.

A German prosecutor is investigating Werner Wenning, Bayer's chairman, and Friedrich Berschauer, the head of Bayer CropScience, after critics alleged that they knowingly polluted the environment.

The investigation was triggered by an Aug. 13 complaint filed by German beekeepers and consumer protection advocates, a Coalition against Bayer Dangers spokesman, Philipp Mimkes, said Monday.

The complaint is part of efforts by groups on both sides of the Atlantic to determine how much Bayer CropScience knows about the part that clothianidin may have played in the death of millions of honeybees.

Bayer CropScience, which has its U.S. headquarters in Research Triangle Park, said field studies have shown that bees' exposure to the pesticide is minimal or nonexistent if the chemical is used properly.

Clothianidin and related pesticides generated about $1 billion of Bayer CropScience's $8.6 billion in global sales last year. The coalition is demanding that the company withdraw all of the pesticides.

"We're suspecting that Bayer submitted flawed studies to play down the risks of pesticide residues in treated plants," said Harro Schultze, the coalition's attorney.

"Bayer's ... management has to be called to account, since the risks ... have now been known for more than 10 years."

Under German law, a criminal investigation could lead to a search of Bayer offices, Mimkes said.

On the other side of the Atlantic, the Natural Resources Defense Council is pressing for research information on clothianidin.

The U.S. Environmental Protection Agency approved the pesticide in 2003 under the condition that Bayer submit additional data. A lawsuit, which the environmental group filed Aug. 19 in federal court in Washington, accuses the EPA of hiding the honeybee data.

The group thinks the data might show what role chlothianidine played in the loss of millions of U.S. honeybee colonies.

Researchers have been puzzled by what is causing the bees to disappear at what is considered an alarming rate.

The phenomenon, known as colony collapse disorder, threatens a $15 billion portion of the U.S. food supply.

In the U.S. diet, about one in three mouthfuls comes from crops that bees pollinate.

Scientists are looking at viruses, parasites and stresses that might compromise bees' immune system. In the past two years, Congress has earmarked about $20 million to boost research.

Clothianidin, sold under the brand name Poncho, is used to coat corn, sugar beet and sorghum seeds and protect them from pests. A nerve toxin that has the potential to be toxic for bees, it gets into all parts of the plant that grows from the coated seeds.

In 1999, French regulators banned an older relative of Poncho and subsequently declined approval for clothianidin. French researchers found that bees were a lot more sensitive to the pesticides than Bayer CropScience studies had shown.

Three months ago, German regulators suspended sales of chlothianidine and related chemicals after the family of pesticides was blamed for the destruction of more than 11,000 bee colonies.

The Julius Kühn Institute, a state-run crop research institute in Germany, collected samples of dead honeybees and determined that clothianidin caused the deaths.

Bayer CropScience blamed defective seed corn batches.

The company said that the coating came off as the seeds were sown, which allowed unusually high amounts of toxic dust to spread to adjacent areas where bees collected pollen and nectar.

Bayer paid about $3 million in damages, Mimkes said.
As one reader commented: "Suits need to do perp walks..." :mad:

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The Earth and myself are of one mind. (Chief Joseph of the Nez Perce)
 
I was listening to Coasttocoastam just last night,and a caller from Oklahoma said that the bee's in that state are increasing in number. Most of the crops in the state are pollinated by the wind (wheat,rye,etc.) so the type of pesticides such as those implicated manufactured by Bayer are not used. Beekeepers and farmers are reporting new hives found daily.
 
Honey Bees Not Healthy in U. S. or U. K.

“We’re very close to the breaking point of what’s enough
and what’s not enough. Honey bees are not healthy.”
- Jerry Hayes, President, Apiary Inspectors of America


_http://www.earthfiles.com/news.php?ID=1466&category=Environment

This is a report from Linda Moulton Howe that focuses on the pesticidal connection to the ailing bees. I still wonder, though if EMF has something to do with it as well?
 

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