Buddy
The Living Force
Starlight said:
Why? There seems to be an adventure afoot in the legal "profession", osit. The potential benefits of successfully dealing with petty tyrants might be enormous. :P
_http://www.1215.org/lawnotes/lawnotes/foundation.htm
_http://www.1215.org/lawnotes/index.html
_http://www.caught.net/prose/bias.htm
[quote author=JUNE WISNIEWSKI]
Fearful of a growing backlash from the public against arbitrary, prejudiced, and even malicious judgments that are protected by judicial immunity, judges have banded together under government sponsorship to devise means of defending themselves from aggrieved and increasingly militant pro-se litigants.
The Anti-Government Movement Handbook [PDF] is a training manual for judges and court staff against pro-se litigants, published in 1999 by the National Center for the State Courts (NCSC) in Williamsburg, Virginia. This book, along with Dealing With Common Law Courts: A Model Curriculum for Judges and Court Staff, published in 1997 by NCSC, was developed from an Institute for Course Management (ICM) course on dealing with common law courts, held in Scottsdale, Arizona, February 5-7, 1997.
The curriculum and manuals for this course were prepared with a grant from the State Justice Institute: Award No. SJI-96-02B-B-159, “The Rise of Common Law Courts in the United States: An Examination of the Movement, the Potential Impact on the Judiciary, and How the States Could Respond.” The State Justice Institute (SJI) is a non-profit, 501C(3) corporation that was started in 1986 and funded by Congress to develop courses and training manuals for state courts and judicial training organizations.
This course and training manuals were developed by a group of 27 judges, court clerks, court administrators, and prosecutors in Arizona who examined the history and procedures of the Common Law Court Movement (CLC) and created the training curriculum and responses that courts, judges, and court administrators can use when dealing with common law courts in their own jurisdictions. My contact at the conference said that one of its goals was to identify ways the courts can make preemptive strikes against the CLC movement.
Anti-Gov't Training manual:
_http://www.tulanelink.com/pdf/anti-gov_movement_guidebook.pdf
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Source: _http://www.tulanelink.com/tulanelink/revoltingjudges_03a.htm
Considering the advice: "Knowledge Protects, Ignorance Endangers", probably everyone might want to download that guide book before it disappears, to understand how all patriots are grouped into an "anti-government" category and easily handled by attorneys and judges. That is, until you realize what they're doing.
From what I've read, navigating the many possible ways of being charged with "contempt" is definitely an exercise for someone with Work experience. :)
Edit: Sorry, I forgot another important one. THIS is also one to download and read:
In 2006, the American Bar Association issued a manual, Countering the Critics; Q&E Guide, that instructs
judges on how to respond to complaints about the lack of accountability and other "hot-button" issues they are likely to encounter from critics of the American court system.
_http://www.tulanelink.com/pdf/judicial_critics.pdf
cagoule
Padawan Learner
I've worked in a few different areas of charity fundraising for a learning disability charity (community/events fundraising) and for a hospice (regular giving/direct marketing). I've given that up to do a degree in Marketing but I am still working part time as a fundraiser for the hospice.
foofighter
Jedi Council Member
Bud said:
You bet! Since I met Starlight I have encountered sooooooo many petty tyrants from the lawyer side of things that it will last for a lifetime. Clients, opposing side, other lawyers, partners (who stab you in the back), judges, police, etc. There's no end to the fun, if you can handle it.
But realize also that in order to stay alive at all in that environment you HAVE to be a shark yourself. There's no room for nice-guys. You HAVE to bribe people. You HAVE to "tweak" the law. And so on. If you don't do all these things, you are out of business. In short, you HAVE to become a petty tyrant yourself, from someone elses perspective.
So before I knew all this I said the same thing as you, "whoa, great source of petty tyrants you got there". But it was just too much. If they break your back, then what is the point? If you cannot deal with it properly, through stalking, simply because there's just too much, I think it is more wise to get out of it and try to focus on other things. What she is doing now, starting up a hypnotherapy business and training, is immensely more rewarding and helpful to people, and makes it possible to deal with one petty tyrant at a time, more or less. It's more "her", so to speak.
Starlight
Jedi
Hi Bud!
... in other words... I make a baaad lawyer... A disgrace to the sharks! :P
I really do want to thank you for your links. It's very interesting with lots of interesting reads and really do wish that there's more those kind of sharks (I mean, lawyers!) ;)
Hmmm.... wishful thinking..... (caught myself there!)
Bud said:
foofighter said:
... in other words... I make a baaad lawyer... A disgrace to the sharks! :P
I really do want to thank you for your links. It's very interesting with lots of interesting reads and really do wish that there's more those kind of sharks (I mean, lawyers!) ;)
Hmmm.... wishful thinking..... (caught myself there!)
luke wilson
The Living Force
I am a maths and economics student. Lovely dovely. Wonder what that degree will get me considering I dont really care much about entering the corporate environment and swimming with the sharks or pretending to care about stuff I dont really care much about, then again that could just be an excuse to not try ones best... who knows? I sure dont.
They say you get out of life what you put in, well if that is the case, I am in deep trouble.
They say you get out of life what you put in, well if that is the case, I am in deep trouble.
anya
Jedi
I am a legislative assistant to a State Representative. I have the opportunity to help a lot of people connect with information and programs that they need. I suggest constituents read Sherry Rodgers, Mark Hyman, and many others from our reading list if I think they would be interested. I just ordered my third copy of SHOTW to give as a gift to someone who I think is ready for it. The legislature makes me crazy but my Work and my work keep me moving forward.
Buddy
The Living Force
Starlight said:
Hi foofighter and Starlight. Thanks for the feedback about that legal stuff. I really understand your point about 'sharks.'
I was also hoping the pragmatic and esoteric parallels would be useful. To explain, first, I considered Don Juan's Warrior, on the path of knowledge, starting from a position of ignorance, with minimal network support, having to learn lessons and dealing with petty tyrants. Second, I thought of the citizen, unable to afford a lawyer, acting as a Pro Se litigant, starting from a position of near-ignorance, with minimal support and having to navigate contempt charges in order to present his case and remain free."
So I thought: we have the petty tyrant in the esoteric context, the contempt charge in a legal context, and what about that chreia in a religious context? It looks like all three examples are equivalent expressions of ways to point out how important it is to discern when situations are already setup to maneuver you into losing your cool, losing your line of thought and blinding you to the manipulations intended to end with your convenient disposal.
Having a knowledge of techniques being used to maneuver you into a contempt charge in order to dispose of you, reminded me of the discussion involving the chreia where the Jesus character successfully navigated a set up in order to remain free:
Laura said:
Laura said:
Laura said:
Worth a re-read, I think. :)
paralleloscope
The Living Force
I used to do all sorts digital imagery and effects for a living. Then postman for a while. Then I inherited some money and tried dreaming up some impossible technology. Now I have the odd job as a worker on construction sites and work on my boat-home for selling purposes. The plan is to become an EE teacher and/or soul community builder .
oneopenmind
Padawan Learner
Presently, I am an unemployed Computer Network Engineer (CNE, MCSE). Recently returned home from S. California doing contract work for ADT home alarm installs... it was costing me more in gas than the $50.00 per install. It is really tough to find a job in the Central California area (at least in the city I live in). 
Laura, this is an excellent idea! In the past networking with people I knew was an excellent way to open the "unemployment" door.
I have also done the following jobs: House Painter, Healthcare: Orderly in Surgery, Central Service Technician, Operating Room Scheduler, Mold Maker for low budget Sci-Fi creatures on a film called "Arena".
Laura, this is an excellent idea! In the past networking with people I knew was an excellent way to open the "unemployment" door.
Laura said:
I have also done the following jobs: House Painter, Healthcare: Orderly in Surgery, Central Service Technician, Operating Room Scheduler, Mold Maker for low budget Sci-Fi creatures on a film called "Arena".
Paragon
Jedi Council Member
I work in the service industry, making coffee's and dealing with the public. Fantastic opportunity to DO the Work and deal with Petty Tyrants all day long :D
Though I wish to move on from my job but my qualifications are not that good. I would love to just get up and go and travel the world, DOing the Work as I go along , networking with the board at the same time and spreading the word to those who ask :)
Though I wish to move on from my job but my qualifications are not that good. I would love to just get up and go and travel the world, DOing the Work as I go along , networking with the board at the same time and spreading the word to those who ask :)
