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[Gaby]

New trick we've learned about how to best use epsom salts is to load it into capsules and take between 35 to 40 grams of it once a week for a purge. See here:

http://www.michaellevitt.com.au/constipation/sluggish-bowels/

But, since I don't have any capsules handy, I'm assuming I could gag some down in water without poisoning myself, eh? ;)

If you don't mind the taste...

Around 30-40 grams should do. You can take 15 grams first, then wait 5-10 minutes and take the rest.

 

[Bidoche]

If you don't mind the taste...

Around 30-40 grams should do. You can take 15 grams first, then wait 5-10 minutes and take the rest.

A tablespoon (3 teaspoons) is about 20 grams. I took a dessertspoon (2 teaspoons) this morning and within two hours had diarrhoea which repeated itself in the afternoon. Not feeling that good, I stopped the lemon juice fast BUT will definitely be doing it again in the near future as I'm certain it's the only way to go to rid my body of accumulated toxins. I've already got my first boil! Many detox programs say that one should fast 7-10 days, however in my case, I'm more inclined to limit this to two (on the week-end) and repeat it as many times as I can. As for the taste, it's bitter - not really an issue when swallowed in one shot.

 

[Laura]

If you've got a boil, your intestines are not happy. Let me suggest just sticking to the UltraSimple diet and don't go for harsh measures. Let the body have what it needs to heal itself, don't put it under stress. I've been that route and it ain't healthy.

Patience with yourself, and gentleness! Please!

 

[stellar]

If you've got a boil, your intestines are not happy. Let me suggest just sticking to the UltraSimple diet and don't go for harsh measures. Let the body have what it needs to heal itself, don't put it under stress. I've been that route and it ain't healthy.

Patience with yourself, and gentleness! Please!

Very interesting info about the boils. I was just about to forward a question on that on the forum when I read Laura's comment.

Since I started the detox program several weeks ago (and did so very gently) I have been overwhelmed with boils to the point where I could hardly sit comfortably.
The past 2-3 weeks I have only had one that is slowly clearing up.

It has been a painful time detoxing in respect of the boils but I pesisted and will continue to do so.

The only thing I have yet to eliminate is the coffee (mild) and that is the hardest, but I have cut down to 4-5 small ones a day. Incidentally, I don't notice any ill effects from drinking it, so perhaps that is why I am putting off giving it up. (Maybe the predator mind wants to have something to hold on to still... not sure???)

Although losing weight has not been one of my goals, it seems to be one of the effects of the detox so I am not complaining.

 

[Mrs. Peel]

If you don't mind the taste...

Around 30-40 grams should do. You can take 15 grams first, then wait 5-10 minutes and take the rest.

A tablespoon (3 teaspoons) is about 20 grams.

Well, that was my next question... what does one measure grams with? ;)

So I should take a little more than a tablespoon then.

 

[Bidoche]

If you've got a boil, your intestines are not happy. Let me suggest just sticking to the UltraSimple diet and don't go for harsh measures. Let the body have what it needs to heal itself, don't put it under stress. I've been that route and it ain't healthy.

Patience with yourself, and gentleness! Please!

Thanks, Laura, for your concern! Yes, I'm pretty much stressed out and wondering what to do next, but will do as you say and take things easy.

 

[Bidoche]

If you've got a boil, your intestines are not happy. Let me suggest just sticking to the UltraSimple diet and don't go for harsh measures. Let the body have what it needs to heal itself, don't put it under stress. I've been that route and it ain't healthy.

Patience with yourself, and gentleness! Please!

Very interesting info about the boils. I was just about to forward a question on that on the forum when I read Laura's comment.

Here's a detox blog that I could identify with, whatever the means applied:
http://curezone.com/blogs/fm.asp?i=979884 (Common Physical Reactions to Fasting)

 

[Bidoche]

If you don't mind the taste...

Around 30-40 grams should do. You can take 15 grams first, then wait 5-10 minutes and take the rest.

A tablespoon (3 teaspoons) is about 20 grams.

Well, that was my next question... what does one measure grams with? ;)

So I should take a little more than a tablespoon then.

A tablespoon of common salt is about 20 grams, however Magnesium Sulphate (Epsom salts), as it's a finer powder, weighs in a bit less at around 14 grams. Take two tablespoons. The only question I have is whether European tablespoons are identical to American ones?

 

[Gaby]

I found a cool calculator here: http://www.gourmetsleuth.com/cooking-conversions/gram-conversions.aspx (from tablespoons to grams). So yes 2 tablespoons should do it.

 

[Al Today]

I've been observing myself in regards to the comments below. I ran out of B-12 supplements over a week ago. As an experiment I have not obtained any B-12 to see if anything noticeable is observed, and nope... I don't notice anything. I cannot say if B-12 helps or not. My only concern is that a few years ago and all that I really know is a neurologist stressed a need for and ended up giving me a B-12 shot in da butt and gave an admonishment to use supplements... Without a formal test, how would one know if one has a B-12 or B-Complex deficiency? I dunno much about the B-Complex stuff anyway, but I will research.

If anyone could pass info about these B-Complex cocktails would be happily appreciated.
As a side note, I can't get outta my mind as to how the fellow treated symptoms but not a cause. Perhaps he didn't know the cause of the B-12 deficiency.?.?.?

Has anyone considered taking B vitamins to help with Nerve Pain?

I was diagnosed with neuropathy some years ago. I was also depleted of B-12. For years I have been taking B-12. Along with other supplements & watching diet, my chemistry test results have lately been textbook darn near perfect. Whoopie. My skeletal system on the other hand... well... they are in terrible shape.

FWIW: B-12 has done nothing for the neuropathy I live with daily. Nada, nothing.
But that's just me for we all are different.

edit for clarity

 

[Gaby]

If anyone could pass info about these B-Complex cocktails would be happily appreciated.

Hi Al Today,

There is information in The Ultra Mind Solution, where Hyman talks about methylation, a biochemical process which requires folate, B6, B12 to run smoothly. Problems with methylation biochemical processes are involved in many illnesses including all mental illness and neurological dysfunction, especially depression, autism, attention, deficit disorder, Alzheimer's, Parkinson's, etc. Methylation is a detox pathway. There is more info in the other suggested health books as well. For example, the following is from Beating and Treating Fibromyalgia and CFS:

A deficiency of vitamin B12 can lead to inadequate amounts of acetylcholine, an important neurotransmitter involved in learning and memory...

B12 deficiency is not as common as folic acid deficiency, it is more common than people— including most doctors—suspect. Even low normal levels can contribute to depression, particularly in the elderly. ...

Methylation requires S-adenosyl-methionine (SAMe). SAMe is synthesized from the amino acid methionine and dependent on folic acid, choline, and vitamin B12. Methylation detoxifes estrogen, testosterone, thyroid hormones, acetaminophen, and coumarin. ...

Vitamin B12 (cobalamin) is the only B vitamin stored by the body. A vitamin B12 deficiency occurs only in malnutrition, malabsorption, or other impediments to proper digestion. Vitamin B12 is important in the growth of children. It is responsible for the replication of genetic material and so is essential for the
development and maintenance of all the cells. Vitamin B12 helps form the myelin sheath that insulates nerve processes and allows rapid communication from one cell to another A deficiency of B12 can cause a reduction in mental acuity, evidenced by poor memory. Alzheimer’s and senile dementia, two diseases associated with memory loss, confusion, and nerve damage, might both be attributed to a deficiency of B12 It is only found in animal products (especially liver), so vegetarians should supplement it. Antigout medications, anticoagulant drugs, and potassium supplements may interfere with B12 absorption, and taking antacids will block its absorption. Calcium is necessary for normal absorption of B12 High doses of folic acid can mask the symptoms of B12-deficiency anemia. Because vitamin B12 deficiency is routinely seen in the elderly, I believe everyone over the age of 60 should be supplementing with vitamin B12. Vitamin B12 is not toxic.

The other thing is that other than the role of one single nutrient, it is more the role of a team of nutrients that helps us to detoxify, that are involved in enzymatic pathways, etc. That is why basic supplementation will not consist only of one supplement. Generally it will be a multivitamin/mineral, magnesium, B complex, good fatty acids (Omega 3s), vitamin C...

If you type methylation, and/or B12 on the search function, you'll find more info.

My 2 cents.

 

[Bidoche]

A deficiency of vitamin B12 can lead to inadequate amounts of acetylcholine, an important neurotransmitter involved in learning and memory...

During the past weeks, the pain in my leg has subsided and I feel I've made some progress. I've changed my diet to include the UltraBroth, juiced raw vegetables (some fruit) and hot lemon drinks. For breakfast (the only solid meal), cottage cheese with flax oil or oats with freshly-ground flax seeds, ground almonds, walnuts, cranberries, raspberries, blueberries, the occasional banana or apple and coconut milk. No change in weight.

My daily B-Complex supplement has 10 mcg (micro grams) of Vitamin B12. Is this sufficient or should I take more?

This past week, I've had my hands and legs massaged by a physiotherapist. He also used ultra-sound on my left hand; both procedures were highly beneficial.

 

[Laura]

You probably will want to ditch the cottage cheese. Dairy is deadly, period.

 

[Gaby]

Ideally, it is from 500 to 1000 mcg of B12, and ideally half of it should be methylcobalamin. But you can finish your supplement bottle and then try to see if you can get another one at a reasonable price. In iherb.com there are several options and prices. Perhaps like the one of vitaminshoppe:

http://www.vitaminshoppe.com/store/en/browse/sku_detail.jsp?id=VS-1062

You might want to reconsider also oats, as they are a source of gluten, unless specified otherwise. But in general, they are a source of gluten. Gluten and dairy are super evil.

 

[Al Today]

Thank you very much Psyche. You've provided some insight with source recommendations for further inquiry.

A vitamin B12 deficiency occurs only in malnutrition, malabsorption, or other impediments to proper digestion.

Well, well, well... I had my gall bladder removed about a year after visiting with the neurologist & finding out about the B12 deficiency. That gall bladder looked like a stripped chicken ready for cooking. A grey/whiteish color, greasy gooey looking, and just plain narley... Ugh... Explains the B12 issue...

And thank you Bidoche for sharing your "story". I've learnt from you and I have nothing to help you with...