Where will the 'safe belt' be?

Aiming

The Living Force
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Hi everyone,

not sure whether this has been adressed already: as far as I know, during an ice age, there's always a small belt on the planet that is habitable. Which one would that be? Equator zone?
 
You can do a search on the internet to find some info and some pics about that.

Here's one result :

From http://geography.howstuffworks.com/terms-and-associations/ice-age.htm

ice-age-cover.jpg
 
Thanks Gandalf, I've apparently missed the obvious.

Is anyone already making plans to relocate?
 
Puzzle said:
Thanks Gandalf, I've apparently missed the obvious.

Is anyone already making plans to relocate?

I've thought about relocation (being in Wisconsin, US), but given my situation, I don't see it as feasible right now.

One of my goals for this year is to come up with a plan for temporary relocation. Basically a quick list of items to pack up in the trailer so I can move in a hurry if necessary. This will require a small investment, but I think it might be worth in given the situation the world is headed towards.

There's no guarantee that travel will be feasible when the poo hits the fan, so all of this may be for naught. I'm hoping that by keeping a close eye on the objective reality left and right, I'll be ahead of the game and see things unfolding before any actual mass migration or relocation occurs in my area. All of this may be wishful thinking, however.

I'm not sure there's any way to really tell where will be a safe area until events start to unfold. With big brother, possible war, cometary bombardment, supervolcanos, superstorms, etc., I don't know if there is anywhere on the globe guaranteed as "safe".
 
RyanX said:
I'm not sure there's any way to really tell where will be a safe area until events start to unfold. With big brother, possible war, cometary bombardment, supervolcanos, superstorms, etc., I don't know if there is anywhere on the globe guaranteed as "safe".

I agree with this. Best to make safe the mind and the soul through hard work towards objective thinking and truth instead of lies. We don't really know what the future holds, yet we can know here and now how to make our thoughts and actions better than they have been in the past.
 
Hi Puzzle,

here is also a similar topic to this one:

How to prepare for the coming Ice Age?

Jonathan said:
RyanX said:
I'm not sure there's any way to really tell where will be a safe area until events start to unfold. With big brother, possible war, cometary bombardment, supervolcanos, superstorms, etc., I don't know if there is anywhere on the globe guaranteed as "safe".

I agree with this. Best to make safe the mind and the soul through hard work towards objective thinking and truth instead of lies. We don't really know what the future holds, yet we can know here and now how to make our thoughts and actions better than they have been in the past.

Same here, nonetheless minor preparations could be done, maybe storing food and Laura mentioned it somewhere to have a gas oven, instead of an electric one, cause of power failures. But as always, better be prepared than to be sorry, that would be my take on it.


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added quote from Laura:

Laura said:
Well, obviously, from the remarks the Cs made about ice ages and Atlantis (it's quoted in another thread but I don't remember which one), it seems that life and civilization does not have to end during ice ages.  The problem is the period of transition and, of course, not being in a place that is going to be covered by a mile of ice.

Our thinking is that we need to continue to build the FOTCM organization so that it can do something for its members in a significant way.  I obviously don't want to go into too much detail here, but suffice it to say that we need to generate a lot of funding rather quickly to do what we have in mind for the benefit of all our members, and it seems that it is only an organization that can do some of the things we have in mind.  For example, as a well-funded employer of very specifically qualified individuals (i.e., must be members to fill the position), FOTCM can arrange for residency permits, etc.  There are angles, and we are thinking about them.

For now, what needs to be done is to 1) get EE out there to ameliorate the suffering on the planet which can possibly change the vector of the transition; 2) teach EE and form EE groups from which FOTCM membership will grow; 3) Help us raise funds by direct contributions, increasing our membership, helping to promote EE so that everybody who can afford it will buy the DVDs.
 
RyanX said:
Puzzle said:
Thanks Gandalf, I've apparently missed the obvious.

Is anyone already making plans to relocate?

I've thought about relocation (being in Wisconsin, US), but given my situation, I don't see it as feasible right now.

One of my goals for this year is to come up with a plan for temporary relocation. Basically a quick list of items to pack up in the trailer so I can move in a hurry if necessary. This will require a small investment, but I think it might be worth in given the situation the world is headed towards.

There's no guarantee that travel will be feasible when the poo hits the fan, so all of this may be for naught.

I think if anyone was planning on relocating, the idea would be to do it before the proverbial poo hits the proverbial fan. After all, what's the point in being forewarned if you wait in line with the rest of the sheeple?
 
Also, if you have a home heating system that is water-based and heated by gas, if your house loses power you will most likely lose heat because the thermostat is electric, and it provides the spark to light the gas. So be sure you know how to manually light the gas in the water heater, or set up a battery that would run the thermostat when electricity goes out. All you need is a spark to light it (those long gas stove hand-lighters could do it) and then know how to shut off the gas manually as well when you want to turn it off.

My parents just learned this the hard way when this recent crazy snow storm knocked out power in many towns in New England for a few days, and their house was without heat for for the days they didn't have power (which only came back on yesterday). It seems absurd that if your heat comes from hot water heated by gas that you would still depend on electricity to get your heat. So make sure you know the manual workaround and stay warm this winter!
 
We are in the process of re locating as Denmark is sure getting cold. We where on the the island of Bornholm in Denmark over the summer and it was so hot! Really beautiful place , thought of moving there , but the Hammer said its awful in the winter and the latest news reports are sure showing that.

A benzine generator is probably a must for us all and they can be picked up rather cheaply.

Honestly i dont know where we should re locate to , and as we dont know any body that´s a bit scary , but we are seriously looking into places.

Truth is if i knew the exact spot that a comet was going to hit I would put a tent up just underneath it.
 
Perceval said:
RyanX said:
Puzzle said:
Thanks Gandalf, I've apparently missed the obvious.

Is anyone already making plans to relocate?

I've thought about relocation (being in Wisconsin, US), but given my situation, I don't see it as feasible right now.

One of my goals for this year is to come up with a plan for temporary relocation. Basically a quick list of items to pack up in the trailer so I can move in a hurry if necessary. This will require a small investment, but I think it might be worth in given the situation the world is headed towards.

There's no guarantee that travel will be feasible when the poo hits the fan, so all of this may be for naught.

I think if anyone was planning on relocating, the idea would be to do it before the proverbial poo hits the proverbial fan. After all, what's the point in being forewarned if you wait in line with the rest of the sheeple?

Good point. I think for those who are already living lite, it might be a good idea to relocate now to some southern location. For those of us with families and other ties to people and obligations, it might be more difficult to move just on a whim. That's certainly the case for me. I figured my best bet is just to plan for the worse and hope I can stay one step ahead of the stampede of sheeple.

The problem with moving now is that we don't know how events will unfold, so one might just be moving from one danger zone to another. I mean, there seems to be a pretty high probability that the earth will be uninhabitable above a certain latitude. On the other hand, given the potential for cometary bombardment, I wouldn't want to live near any large water bodies either. Major cities would be bad because of the hordes of people searching for food. In the US, there is the potential for a super volcano eruption at Yellowstone, plus other volcanic activity in the northwestern states. And this all assumes there aren't some sort of military restrictions placed on travel by whatever's remaining of the power structure. It seems like with the enhanced 'security' at airports they're starting this process of limiting travel options - it will probably get worse. The situation is complex and the odds are not good, I think.

I think what's needed is some strategic planning of intentional communities in locations that have a high probability of being safe from natural and man-made disasters. Where those would be, I have no idea. It seems like such places are needed on just about every continent though. These places wouldn't just be to ensure a high probability of survival for the occupants, but just to act as beacons of knowledge and assistance for a transitioning world.
 
I relocated to Malaysia a couple of years ago, now living in KL with Starlight. Climate is stable, with a heavy rainy season though (not affecting KL much). People are as crazy as everywhere else, but manageable. No obvious police state things yet. Pretty ok.
 
Ive been wondering about this too lately. The thing is there isn't just one thing we need to be worried about, there are many things like some have said. A flood, earthquake, or mass unrest can break out anywhere. Not to mention the hundreds of other things that can go wrong. So I think its best to get prepared however we can and at the same time building connections within our community, but without the survival mentality. Hell Ill be happy if I can get out of the US! :rolleyes:
 
Australia....around the tropic of Capricorn. But in regard to other possible events such as those postulated by Richard Hoagland.....nowhere on earth.
 
Probably most of Canada would be uninhabitable, in a mini ice age.

There would be hoards of folks trying to come south, and there wouldn`t be much two way traffic, in that case.

Then there is the " other Border" issues, and all the "illegal" Mexicans being allowed to stay in the U.S and more coming in isn`t exactly discouraged either, could this be to allow a large Mexican population to relocate north, so that others can move further south later, with little or no opposition from Mexicans in the way?

Then they could actually secure the Border, and leave those people stuck in the north while simply taking over the land they have vacated in the south!

Not that I think there is such an insidious plan, but nothing would surprise me anymore.
There's just something odd with the southern Border and the seeming total lack of "control" over thousands of people coming in there, that makes a person suspicious about why that is, I guess.
 
It goes in a similar direction of what I have posted in another topic:

How to prepare for the coming ice age

I couldn't relocate myself, cause of medical troubles it would cause: insurance, money and finally to get the stuff I need. So it would be safer for me, to stay here, where I'm living right now, as long as possible and maybe in that time also and hopefully be a help for others. That's how I see it.

Maybe the message from the C's is helpful:

"Who you are and what you see is important"

SAO said:
Also, if you have a home heating system that is water-based and heated by gas, if your house loses power you will most likely lose heat because the thermostat is electric, and it provides the spark to light the gas. So be sure you know how to manually light the gas in the water heater, or set up a battery that would run the thermostat when electricity goes out. All you need is a spark to light it (those long gas stove hand-lighters could do it) and then know how to shut off the gas manually as well when you want to turn it off.

My parents just learned this the hard way when this recent crazy snow storm knocked out power in many towns in New England for a few days, and their house was without heat for for the days they didn't have power (which only came back on yesterday). It seems absurd that if your heat comes from hot water heated by gas that you would still depend on electricity to get your heat. So make sure you know the manual workaround and stay warm this winter!

Thanks for mentioning.

And last but not least, as long the internet (the network) is existing, future can't be too hopeless for workarounds and new ideas. ;)
 

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