Where will the 'safe belt' be?

[Adobe]

I went back to the states at the end of 08, to prepare for what I believed would be the end game so to speak. I was wrong, 2 years have passed and the collapse, although well under way did not happen. But during my attempt to wake friends and relatives and go find a farm somewhere away from the mass I found no agreement and only became an oddity to them...Chicken Little, they love me, so they tolerate me, but nothing more and occasional anger at my beliefs. I did convince my sister to join me in buying and filling a freezer, and storing up the garage with dry supplies....they tolerated me. Today, my sister is to leave her home. Job loss, and house foreclosed. What do you want me to do with all of this? I can’t take it with me. Eat it, and sell the freezer I said. I could comment on this but I think you get the point.

I left the states again. Do it myself. Went to Ecuador, Central America, and Mexico. Because of visas, monetary systems of countries, and obvious violence, and government corruptions, I abandoned the Americas.

Started traveling in South East Asia. Have been staying in the Philippine Islands, and so far so good.
Northern PI, relatively safe and people friendly. Cost of living cheap. Visa requirements, one can stay 22 months without leaving, and then just a trip to Hong Kong for the day will do it. Weather – perfect, and in the north water is clean and fishing is good. Typhoons, quakes, volcanoes, yep I hear ya, but I don’t believe I can know where calamity won’t happen. I’m staying mobile but have no plan on leaving until I have a reason.

I think we should do what it is we are to do wherever we are at, and dance the dance when everything starts shifting. However if one is able to see high probabilities such as an ice age, government madness, etc. then isn’t it logical to attempt to mitigate the effects....yet of course if you are in the position to do so. Getting away from the mass I think is important as the fascist controllers are there in force, and the sheep will rend you through if given the chance. Also, as much self sufficiency as possible.

I have a mild and constant depression going on that relates to no hope of a happy future or re-establishing of a normal life. IMO I have a high probability of an ugly demise in the not too distant future, and a small “possibility” of surviving the coming issues with body and soul in tacked. I do think both ways can sustain growth for the soul, and ultimately “somewhere” we will come out of this.

Just hours away from 2011...Happy New Year to all!

 

[Ares]

i think there won't be such a thing as a 'safe belt' - here's how i see it:

if you look at 'minor cataclysms' in the past- for example the dark ages, which according to the Cs were caused by overhead cometary explosions in europe, it was a relatively localized event (globally speaking), and only 1 type of disaster took place (comets). Ofcourse there was disease and plague that followed after, but I'm talking about the initial direct incidents.

the upcoming catastrophe, i think will be global in nature with multiple initial causes. If there is a large scale cometary bombardment (both at land and sea), this will not only unleash mega tsunamis, but also devastate huge areas of land making it uninhabitable. If we have the ice age just before or due to this event, the areas above the tropic of cancer or Capricorn will be uninhabitable. we can also count on other natural disasters as a reaction to the initial impact, such as earthquakes, volcanoes and the like. also, i don't think anyone knows how the coming of the wave at this juncture will directly or indirectly affect the earth. finally, we also have to take into account unknown local variables of each country/city such as size of population, amount of food or water, number of psychopaths in power, transportation/access etc.

if we put all of this together, i think it is extremely difficult to say which spot on earth would be 'safe' to continue living physically simply due to different type of disasters that can affect any part of the globe. Unless ofcourse we receive exact information and guidance to go someplace from the Cs or other similar sources - like the story or noah who was told to build a boat.

i too had thought about this constantly earlier, and admittedly still is in my thoughts intermittently as i travel to different countries for work purposes ("would this country be safer than where i am now?") then i remembered what the Cs said about this, that the body is not important, and to focus on doing the 'work' and leaving the rest up to providence.

being in physical reality ('in the game'), i guess it is very hard for us to understand that 'all there is, is lessons', especially when that sounds ominous :)

 

[Ares]

I relocated to Malaysia a couple of years ago, now living in KL with Starlight. Climate is stable, with a heavy rainy season though (not affecting KL much). People are as crazy as everywhere else, but manageable. No obvious police state things yet. Pretty ok.

hi foofighter, i live in kuala lumpur too, and it is definitely not as bad a place to be in as some of the other countries nearby (politically/environmentally/etc.). however, it is still a tightly controlled country in terms of freedom of expression and dissent - witness the recent protests in the CBD a couple of months ago that were dealt with force by riot police. it can also be especially dangerous if you are a foreigner, as you have no support base and lesser rights.

 

[rrraven]

Posted by: wanderer33

Australia....around the tropic of Capricorn.

hey wanderer33...do you still think around the tropic of Capricorn is safe

I remember thinking when you wrote this ,hmm to cyclone prone up there

 

[mkrnhr]

hope all the australian forum members to be careful and safe

 

[Mark7]

I left the states again. Do it myself. Went to Ecuador, Central America, and Mexico. Because of visas, monetary systems of countries, and obvious violence, and government corruptions, I abandoned the Americas.

Started traveling in South East Asia. Have been staying in the Philippine Islands, and so far so good.
Northern PI, relatively safe and people friendly. Cost of living cheap. Visa requirements, one can stay 22 months without leaving, and then just a trip to Hong Kong for the day will do it. Weather – perfect, and in the north water is clean and fishing is good. Typhoons, quakes, volcanoes, yep I hear ya, but I don’t believe I can know where calamity won’t happen. I’m staying mobile but have no plan on leaving until I have a reason.

I think we should do what it is we are to do wherever we are at, and dance the dance when everything starts shifting. However if one is able to see high probabilities such as an ice age, government madness, etc. then isn’t it logical to attempt to mitigate the effects....yet of course if you are in the position to do so. Getting away from the mass I think is important as the fascist controllers are there in force, and the sheep will rend you through if given the chance. Also, as much self sufficiency as possible.

I have been thinking about getting out of the US off and on for a few years now and was considering South America and specifically Costa Rica. There are quite a few opportunities to volunteer or teach English in SA, I have heard about the instability and would be nervous about crime, but I have read on some ex. pat. forums that many places are not as bad as we in the states are led to believe. What was it like for you in South America?

The thing is, the chances of destruction from space/comets is probably evenly distributed over the globe, the dangers of an ice age would be concentrated in more northern/southern latitudes, revolutions, wars, and car accidents can spring up everywhere. Close to the equator is a good idea or so it seems. City centers and extreme boonies are both probably best avoided.

The centers of 3D/4D STS control are in the US and Israel however, and I really don't want to be around for the particular lessons that are probably going to be learnt by so many in the US soon. Maybe that's the wrong way to look at it. IDK, maybe the US is where I belong - come what may. After all, as the C's have said it's not where you are but who you are and what you know.

On the other hand, Thanks for the tip about the Phillippine Islands! I will check into them more closely, it's possible there are some volunteer opportunities there. I't good to hear about someone who has been there, done that, and got the t-shirt.

My first memories as a child were of living in Japan by the sea, maybe it would be nice to visit that part of the world again before it's too late. I have felt trapped and oppressed here in the states since I came back from Germany in the mid 80's, long before I became aware of this forum and the coming chaos the end of this long cycle of will bring.

I will concentrate on EE breathing, reading, networking, detox and paying attention to the lessons in front of me and if I'm lucky I will grow in knowledge, have more I know how to do, and be able to somehow help others during the time we have left.

Edit: fixed quote

 

[ScottD]

Whenever I've gone to consider a 'safe' place to reside it always throws me into an internal feedback loop and I either justify my current place of existence or tell myself that this place is as good as any. This area appears to be my comfort zone, whether it is actually a 'safe' area or not will be revealed at a later date I'm sure. Even considering past glacial coverage I'm not so certain that we could solely rely on that given that the earth is changing, so too could the poles, which would impact where an ice age could occur. Economic instability will be present everywhere I think, especially any place attached to the US Economy.

I think I am where I need to be personally, whether it be for my own lesson(s) or to be a future beacon for others, only time will tell. I think if I am mentally and physically prepared for whatever changes occur then there is no need to move and would only be an isolationist tactic to save my own skin without considering others that may not have been so prepared.

 

[Adobe]

Latin America can and often is hyped up to be “so dangerous”...that’s right. And it can be easier than you think to live and make friends down there. HOWEVER it can be and “often” is dangerous and you really should have the language. If you don’t have the language, nor any experience living there, and at this late hour...well... just make sure you really think it through before starting that adventure.

My experience in the volunteering schemes are that you end up ‘paying’ for your volunteering and dearly so, or you end up working for a government group....which isn’t helping anybody. Don’t mean to be pessimistic, but I am...

I’ll be back in the states next week (long story) I’ll try to connect with friends and family and ...."surf the wave" of current events. I’m prepared for the music to stop playing at any moment, but until such an event happens, I’ll keep eyes and ears open and make the best decision I can....

 

[Mark7]

Latin America can and often is hyped up to be “so dangerous”...that’s right. And it can be easier than you think to live and make friends down there. HOWEVER it can be and “often” is dangerous and you really should have the language. If you don’t have the language, nor any experience living there, and at this late hour...well... just make sure you really think it through before starting that adventure.

My experience in the volunteering schemes are that you end up ‘paying’ for your volunteering and dearly so, or you end up working for a government group....which isn’t helping anybody. Don’t mean to be pessimistic, but I am...

I’ll be back in the states next week (long story) I’ll try to connect with friends and family and ...."surf the wave" of current events. I’m prepared for the music to stop playing at any moment, but until such an event happens, I’ll keep eyes and ears open and make the best decision I can....

Thanks for the heads up Adobe, nothing else like the voice of experience, I found this website that seems to do a pretty good job of separating the wheat from the chaff as far as volunteer opportunities go:

_http://www.volunteersouthamerica.net/volunteer_FAQ.htm

 

[Woodsman]

i think there won't be such a thing as a 'safe belt' - here's how i see it:

if you look at 'minor cataclysms' in the past- for example the dark ages, which according to the Cs were caused by overhead cometary explosions in europe, it was a relatively localized event (globally speaking), and only 1 type of disaster took place (comets). Ofcourse there was disease and plague that followed after, but I'm talking about the initial direct incidents.

the upcoming catastrophe, i think will be global in nature with multiple initial causes. If there is a large scale cometary bombardment (both at land and sea), this will not only unleash mega tsunamis, but also devastate huge areas of land making it uninhabitable. If we have the ice age just before or due to this event, the areas above the tropic of cancer or Capricorn will be uninhabitable. we can also count on other natural disasters as a reaction to the initial impact, such as earthquakes, volcanoes and the like. also, i don't think anyone knows how the coming of the wave at this juncture will directly or indirectly affect the earth. finally, we also have to take into account unknown local variables of each country/city such as size of population, amount of food or water, number of psychopaths in power, transportation/access etc.

if we put all of this together, i think it is extremely difficult to say which spot on earth would be 'safe' to continue living physically simply due to different type of disasters that can affect any part of the globe. Unless ofcourse we receive exact information and guidance to go someplace from the Cs or other similar sources - like the story or noah who was told to build a boat.

i too had thought about this constantly earlier, and admittedly still is in my thoughts intermittently as i travel to different countries for work purposes ("would this country be safer than where i am now?") then i remembered what the Cs said about this, that the body is not important, and to focus on doing the 'work' and leaving the rest up to providence.

being in physical reality ('in the game'), i guess it is very hard for us to understand that 'all there is, is lessons', especially when that sounds ominous :)

I think this is a sensible way of looking at things. All those underground tunnels and cities were dug for a reason. If safe passage were as simple as an air fare to Costa Rica, then I think we'd be seeing different kinds of activities among the Elite; securing of countries and the building of hardened cities or something like that. Instead we appear to be seeing a total disregard and abandonment of the surface world to the forces of chaos as though they know it's a lost cause.

If the C's are to be believed, (and how many of us would be reading/posting here if we did not put some stock in that source of information?), then the real trick is deciding whether or not you want to stay in 3D or transit to 4th D. --While it would be pretty darned cool to actually live through such a transition, the C's did say that some would pay a quick visit to 5th D first, which may indicate that it really is all about how ready you are to advance.

From Session Aug 28, 1999:

Q: Anything in particular we should be watching for?
A: No. Be open to all possibilities.
Q: Are we on the verge of a) an alien invasion; b) a cometary
impact; c) the appearance of a twin sun, a death star in our
solar system?
A: Wait and see.
Q: I don't want to wait and see! (A) Wait and see! When it hits
us, we will know! (L) Let me ask this....
A: What a glorious transition to 4th density STO. With maybe
a quick stopover in 5th just to pick up a few things for the trip!
Q: Are you saying that we are getting ready for the Big
Kahuna?
A: Only Don Ho knows for sure.
Q: What?!
A: Well, you did say "Kahuna," yes?
Q: Okay, you have repeatedly, in the past year, alluded to
something that we are supposed to be watching for, that we
are supposed to 'enjoy the show,' and all that sort of thing.
Now you have made this remark about 5th density, where 3rd
density goes at death. Are you suggesting that a lot of folks
are going to check out?
A: Maybe we were trying to Lighten things up a bit!
Q: That's all fine and good, but I just want one word here, a
clue about what is coming down in the near future that you
are making all these hints about... just a one word clue?
A: KABOOM!

Context here--> http://www.cassiopaea.org/2010/09/14/cometary-showers-four-horsemen-of-the-apocalypse/

 

[mkrnhr]

It reminds me of an Arabic legend concerning the pyramids. It says that the pyramids weren't tombs, that the Pharaoh, knowing about the coming deluge, has built the most stable and resistant building ever, to protect himself and his relatives during the cataclysm, until the waters clear out. When the deluge came, a big lightening came down through the pyramid, who was like a isolated big tree in the middle of the desert and the pharaoh has been fried inside. And the pyramid became a tomb :)
It doesn't mean anything happened this way, but it's about wishful thinking.

It doesn't matter how the PTB are preparing to survive in the STS 3D Earth, that's their own way, and you never know what could happen in reality. It's a random thing if you consider volcanism and other geological "incidents".

 

[beherenow]

Hi everyone,
Something that came to mind after reading this thread...and reviewing some of McCanney's work....is this, what about
a pole shift? South may not be south anymore after the "poo" hits! Just mt 2 cents, Thanks

 

[Mark7]

It seems that there are going to be a number of disasters that will transpire before the big "KABOOM" hits...

Q: (Perceval) Is it gonna be more concentrated in one particular area of the globe, for example in the US, as opposed to world-wide?

A: Yes. We have mentioned a 5D city on a hill.

Q: (Perceval) Is this in reference to the ice age in terms of the blame that people give to the government and that causes the revolution?

A: There are a few more steps before an ice age. Some of them not very pleasant.

Q: (Perceval) Earthquakes, volcanoes, economic collapse...(Burma Jones) Mass starvation. (Perceval) Plague. (L) Crop failure.

A: All of those and more.

Q: (Andromeda) Great! (Perceval) On that topic, is one of those steps that could happen to cause a revolution...

(L) Well, actually they're talking about steps to an ice age, not steps to a revolution.

(Ailén) They said before the revolution would start, people would only see the oil as a reason to start a revolution.

(Perceval) Yeah, I asked if the ace age was going to cause a revolution. (L) I don't think there's going to be a lot left to have a revolution once the ice age has begun! {laughter} Okay, so all that stuff like crop failure is going to lead up to the ice age.

(L) I would say that if there were crop failures, economic collapse, and so on, that those things would bring about a revolution and while you're in the middle of the revolution THEN everything goes kaflooey. That would be my guess.

A: Yes

Q: (Perceval) So they said "all of those and more". Could one of those "more" things be any revelations about 9/11?

A: That may come too, but don't hang your hopes on "revelations". Rather it will be a change in perception by the public.

Q: (L) Okay. Well, all of that is very, very cheerful. So what are we supposed to do?

A: Continue to spread the truth and program that will unite all people of good will.

Q: (L) So uniting people of good will...

A: Remember we once told you that people would unite against the "invasion" at the time just before the earth changes?

Q: (L) Well, yeah. We were talking about the Nephalim and their stun guns and that sort of thing. But it looks like psychopaths are the new Nephalim, and they're already using stun guns - tasers. And then we asked if they were going to try to stage a fake alien invasion. All of this disclosure business is trying to point people in the direction of alien invasions, trying to get them prepared for some kind of fake alien invasion. Then you said yes, but a real invasion might take place first or earth changes would happen. Now, it's just been pressing on my mind, becoming more and more clear, that we don't NEED an alien invasion with psychopaths ruling this world as their transdimensional agents. And it has occurred to me that when you said that way back when, that basically the invasion has already occurred! It's here, now. It's psychopaths in power!

Everybody is looking and waiting for some kind of aliens; well, aliens are a supernatural phenomenon. Yeah, there is a certain physicality to it, but it strikes me that that physicality doesn't have... what do I want to say? Endurance? It doesn't "vibrate" right in our reality. It can come and go, but it doesn't stay here. So they need agents. They've always needed agents. They've always needed human-looking beings to control, to manipulate, or to even "download into" in a funny sort of way, like a possession or an activation. It's like they're sitting at some control console in some hyperdimensional place controlling their agents the way we control remote control toys.

So anyhow, this is what I've been thinking. Everybody's waiting for something to happen, like disclosure, or after disclosure. But it's already happened. It's here NOW! Any so-called “disclosure” will be a fraud unless they come out and say that it is a supernatural or hyper-dimensional phenomenon, which they are NOT going to say because that completely counters their entire world view that worships the physical universe. That’s where the whole Darwinism, material science, exclusion of scientific study of the paranormal, and so forth, comes from. That sort of thing can NEVER be studied honestly because it would destroy their reality construct.

(Perceval) That's a great screen.

(L) Yeah, they're trying to prepare people for physical, material aliens – “Disclosure” - because they're going to TRY to pull the alien invasion trick or the "alien god" trick and they'll say, "Worship the alien god! Join behind us! We're his high priests!" But it's not going to work.

(Perceval) It's almost like that's been held in reserve if it's necessary. They've prepped people with the idea of aliens.

(L) It's like this gigantic counterintelligence program. And the main thing that I've seen them working to counter is the idea, the concept, the understanding that this phenomenon is a supernatural one. To make that clear, what we have always called supernatural, which is not necessarily "supernatural", is really just hyperdimensional. We've been aware of these things – this other reality – for millennia. They come and go. It's like the finger in Flatland. We're Flatland! Am I on to something with this?

A: About as accurate as you can get without making direct predictions.

Q: (L) Who was it, this scientist guy... Was it Werner von Braun who said they were going to create this illusion about an alien invasion, and that it was all a big lie and a big fraud? And the real reason he said it was that he knew that it was a paranormal or a hyperdimensional phenomenon. Is that what he meant?

A: Yes.

Q: (L) Because that fits. We've already been invaded. It's already a done deal. (Perceval) An invasion of psychopaths. (L) Yeah.

(Ailén) It's a perfect excuse for not taking responsibility as human beings. They can blame it on aliens, and say, "We're all equal, we're all victims! We didn't know!"

(L) Alright then. So what's next? Everybody wants to know why this consortium bought up all the cocoa beans in Europe?

A: Once again the wishful thinking disease strikes!

Q: (L) What do you mean by that?

A: They actually think that people are going to care about chocolate!

Q: (Burma Jones) So they know that everything's about to fly apart and they’re just thinking, "Let's get this precious commodity before it happens!"

(L) Maybe they don't KNOW that things are going to totally fly apart. Maybe they think that some things are going to fall apart, and they think they're going to make a killing on chocolate. But they don't know how bad it's going to be because they've seriously underestimated what's going on.

A: It is not a good time to be a psychopath!

Q: {laughter} (L) So that's kind of like the BP people. By being psychopaths, they really screwed up. They are the ones holding the bag for what's coming down the pike weather-wise.

(Perceval) It's like you said as well about finding the trait of the psychopath is their inability to perceive the future consequences of their actions. They're gonna get some serious consequences.

(Ailén) They'll be blamed for everything, even things they didn't do.

(Perceval) And they can't even see that's what's coming before it happens. They're not going to have any contingency plans.

(Galaxia) I have a question. Are some of the people in the US going to see what's happening and get out?

A: Some.

entire session for context: http://www.cassiopaea.org/forum/index.php?topic=18906.0


I am getting that we should be mentally and physically prepared for several things before the big Kahuna hits as best we can without getting bogged down too much in 3D thinking.

More and more I can see the need for the EE Breathing Program/Prayer of the Soul and their importance in the times ahead. Being prepared on a soul level takes precedence over everything else it seems. Without that, one may survive all the changes only to be left stranded on a very inhospitable 3D earth, or worse.


Edit: Added a few missing words

 

[Woodsman]

You know what?

Right now, an economic collapse would almost be preferable to the stress of not knowing if I'll have rent money in twenty-five days. More contracts are folding, more money leaking away. More bills I can't pay.

However, if everything falls apart, if everybody says, "Yup. It's broke. She's done-for!" then I wouldn't feel guilty about letting down my kindly landlord because he'd be in the same boat and we could get on with helping each other using real skills and effectively applied energy. I've got cupboards filled with food, I've got tools and I know how to build things, how to insulate structures, all kinds of useful things like that. Many people around here are similarly equipped, all ready to fill in the gaps of an economic collapse. I'd feel, "Okay! Now THESE kinds of problems I know how to solve. I can be applying myself in a useful way rather than slaving to earn a few bucks to give to arbitrary bank masters. What a waste of energy that is!"

I realize it would be horribly frightening for many people who still have gainful employment and money resources, but I'm beginning to champ at the bit because in a 'functioning' economy, I'm pretty close to being totally washed up; so many support systems and resources have been cut out from beneath me, (it seems deliberate in a Matrix kind of way).

If I go down early, before the rest of my community is affected, then I just go down and in a year's time I wonder if I'll be in a position to be of any use to anybody. I need an excuse to stop wasting my time chasing money for the banks.

 

[Gimpy]

There's a quote on my FB page that fits how I feel about trying to find a 'safe' place :


..."We're put on this earth with a certain number of things to accomplish during our lives.
At this point, I'm so far behind, I may never die." ;)


Or I just might be in the bullseye of the first incoming space rock....point being? Why get upset over it? I figure Hubby and I will do the best we can with what we have, keep our eyes open, and just get on with it. We may die, we may not, and a whole of 'In-between'.

As it is right now, there's no way we can move, and there's no where to go. So we'll do what we do and let the chips fall.