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A "hat-tip" to Vanessa Beeley and her continued efforts in exposing the White Helmets for the fake organization - that it is! Someone tried to insert "the Syrian Defense - White Helmets" into "the real Intl. Civil Defense Org" website. Someone alerted Vanessa and she contacted the real organization and had the false insertion removed.
Intl. Civil Defense Org.: “The White Helmets are not even civil defense” in Syria
https://off-guardian.org/2016/10/09/intl-civil-defence-org-the-white-helmets-are-not-even-civil-defence-in-syria/
Mike Robinson writes in the UK Column:
Later today [October 7] the Nobel Committee will announce the winner of the Peace Prize. One of the organizations in the running is the so-called White Helmets, darlings of the British Foreign Office and the BBC.
Should the White Helmets win, it would only be the latest effort by governments, NGOs and the media to promote terrorism. The fact that it is the Nobel Committee is perhaps the ultimate irony, or it would be if they hadn’t already awarded the Peace Prize to the most warlike US President in history.
Yet while it comes as no surprise that the British and US governments, the BBC and Netflix think its quite alright to promote terrorism, it did come as a shock to many that the International Civil Defense Organization would choose to do so too.
The International Civil Defense Organization (ICDO) exists to support civil defense and first responders right around the world. One of its founder members was Syria, and Syria’s Civil Defense organization has historically been held in the highest regard, involved in training similar organizations in many other countries.
On Wednesday this week, it was noticed that the ICDO had made an update to their website and had linked the Syrian entry on their membership page to the White Helmets rather than the real Syrian Civil Defense. This despite being well aware that it is the real Syrian Civil Defense which continues to pay its membership fee to the ICDO, the White Helmets having contributed nothing.
So yesterday morning Vanessa Beeley spoke to an ICDO representative in Geneva, to ask how and why this had happened.
VB: Good morning, I was wondering if you could explain why the link on your website to the Syria Civil Defense has been linked to the White Helmet website…
ICDO: I will explain to you directly. We had so many calls and emails this morning. It was a database mistake. Internal mistake. We are still an apolitical and inter-governmental organization. The only civil defense we recognize, the only government we recognize is the official one. It was just a mistake. The link to the WRONG Civil Defense. Actually the White Helmets are not even civil defense concretely. No, no it was just a mistake and it’s corrected immediately. [laughs] I am surprised that last night so many people are watching our website…
VB: Well there is so much “confusion” over who the REAL Syria Civil Defense is…and who are the White Helmets..
ICDO: Absolutely. From our side, we are working in the field and ONLY with official governments, we don’t even talk about any political issues.
VB: Good. So as far as ICDO is concerned – the REAL Syria Civil Defense and the Syrian Government are officially recognized by the ICDO
ICDO: Yes, it is the only one that is recognized, I mean, by the UN and by us also.
VB: So the Syria Civil Defense is the only organization recognized in Syria by the UN and by the ICDO, is that correct?
ICDO: Yes the official one, NOT THE WHITE HELMETS.
A mistake, then, and a clear and definitive statement that the White Helmets are not viewed internationally, including by the United Nations, as being a first responder civil defense organization. The only civil defense organization recognized is the real Syrian Civil Defense.
Where does this leave the credibility of those who promote terrorists as heroes?
Only SEVEN people BTL support Guardian’s fact-free White Helmets editorial
https://off-guardian.org/2016/10/06/30325/
Published on October 6, 2016 - October 4’s WaPo was casually discussing the possibilities of the US escalating the situation in Syria by directly attacking the Syrian army without a UN mandate. The fact that it inverts reality by claiming such illegality would be “humanitarian” while simultaneously accusing the Syrian government and its ally Russia of “war crimes” is not that surprising. But its absolute refusal to recognize the fact that any such move by the US would be a likely introduction to WW3 is a deeper kind of madness.
It’s increasingly clear that the ineffectual John Kerry and his fellow (comparative) non-loons, are failing to rein in the incompetent Keystone Cops-crazies who think they can launch and win a conventional war against Russia. In fact Kerry is partaking of the same rhetoric much of the time, presumably in an attempt not to be sidelined. Neither he nor his friends have the brains, the organization or the will to offer real opposition to the drive to war. The WaPo is presenting what is the current Washington “consensus”, viz adolescent “tough-talking” and heated declamations. The non-crazies may be hoping this war-talk will remain purely that – talk. But absent any diplomatic initiatives or any serious attempts to present alternative analysis, this hope is forlorn. The “conventional war” will be launched and only the idiot-lunatics, the Nulands, Kagans and Carters, will be amazed when it goes nuclear and wipes them (and us) out of existence.
Right now, in the midst of the most dangerous Russian/US stand-off since the Crimea crisis in early 2014, maybe even since the Cuban Missile near-miss, where are the voices of reason in the West? We are on the brink of catastrophic war, and nothing but footling distraction headlines or schizophrenic reality-denial and occasional bouts of hysteria is coming out of the White House or the State Department, or their principal “papers of record.”
If you doubt this even slightly – look at yesterday’s Guardian, where we can find this stunning headline:
“The Guardian view on the Nobel peace prize: give it to Syria’s White Helmets”
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2016/oct/05/the-guardian-view-on-the-nobel-peace-prize-give-it-to-syrias-white-helmets
What is there to say? The facts about the White Helmets are out there and freely available. It’s easy to find out what they are and what they do. It’s established they are a front for Al Nusra and other terrorist outlets, who have openly allied with terrorist groups and faked videos of their own heroism. It’s a fact beyond question that 85%+ of Aleppo is in Syrian government control and is being attacked by the “rebels”, not by the SAA, and that launching a war to “defend” the few pockets of remaining terrorist stronghold would be an act of pure insanity. Everyone with any remaining sanity knows that no one, however evil, could possibly find as many “hospitals” to bomb as Russia allegedly does, even if they went looking. But the WaPo and the Guardian simply behave as if these facts do not exist and are not widely publicized, and the Guardian in particular persists in publishing articles so risible so reality-denying they have destroyed its reputation beyond rescue.
It’s like reading articles by respected authorities claiming gravity no longer exists or that humans can now fly. The reaction we feel is now less anger and more baffled incomprehension.
In fact both the WaPo and the Guardian, and most of the MSM, are currently exhibiting a kind of psychological denial that goes way beyond propaganda and into something much more dangerous and strange. Propaganda is about convincing the masses to believe your lies. But look BTL in the comments under both these articles. Almost no one is believing.
The comments in the WaPo – normally much more pro-official agenda than in the Guardian – are, even with repeat input from a couple of busy warmongers, full of people saying “we don’t want WW3 over Aleppo” or calling out US hypocrisy in arming al Qaeda and al Nusra.
Western corporate media 'disappears' over 1.5 million Syrians and 4,000 doctors
https://www.sott.net/article/325238-Western-corporate-media-disappears-over-1-5-million-Syrians-and-4000-doctors#
Reposted here on Saturday October 8th: In the Comment section, other's are reposting the SOTT article.
Syria: Doctors in Aleppo refute Western media lies
https://off-guardian.org/2016/10/08/syria-doctors-in-aleppo-refute-western-media-lies/
Intl. Civil Defense Org.: “The White Helmets are not even civil defense” in Syria
https://off-guardian.org/2016/10/09/intl-civil-defence-org-the-white-helmets-are-not-even-civil-defence-in-syria/
Mike Robinson writes in the UK Column:
Later today [October 7] the Nobel Committee will announce the winner of the Peace Prize. One of the organizations in the running is the so-called White Helmets, darlings of the British Foreign Office and the BBC.
Should the White Helmets win, it would only be the latest effort by governments, NGOs and the media to promote terrorism. The fact that it is the Nobel Committee is perhaps the ultimate irony, or it would be if they hadn’t already awarded the Peace Prize to the most warlike US President in history.
Yet while it comes as no surprise that the British and US governments, the BBC and Netflix think its quite alright to promote terrorism, it did come as a shock to many that the International Civil Defense Organization would choose to do so too.
The International Civil Defense Organization (ICDO) exists to support civil defense and first responders right around the world. One of its founder members was Syria, and Syria’s Civil Defense organization has historically been held in the highest regard, involved in training similar organizations in many other countries.
On Wednesday this week, it was noticed that the ICDO had made an update to their website and had linked the Syrian entry on their membership page to the White Helmets rather than the real Syrian Civil Defense. This despite being well aware that it is the real Syrian Civil Defense which continues to pay its membership fee to the ICDO, the White Helmets having contributed nothing.
So yesterday morning Vanessa Beeley spoke to an ICDO representative in Geneva, to ask how and why this had happened.
VB: Good morning, I was wondering if you could explain why the link on your website to the Syria Civil Defense has been linked to the White Helmet website…
ICDO: I will explain to you directly. We had so many calls and emails this morning. It was a database mistake. Internal mistake. We are still an apolitical and inter-governmental organization. The only civil defense we recognize, the only government we recognize is the official one. It was just a mistake. The link to the WRONG Civil Defense. Actually the White Helmets are not even civil defense concretely. No, no it was just a mistake and it’s corrected immediately. [laughs] I am surprised that last night so many people are watching our website…
VB: Well there is so much “confusion” over who the REAL Syria Civil Defense is…and who are the White Helmets..
ICDO: Absolutely. From our side, we are working in the field and ONLY with official governments, we don’t even talk about any political issues.
VB: Good. So as far as ICDO is concerned – the REAL Syria Civil Defense and the Syrian Government are officially recognized by the ICDO
ICDO: Yes, it is the only one that is recognized, I mean, by the UN and by us also.
VB: So the Syria Civil Defense is the only organization recognized in Syria by the UN and by the ICDO, is that correct?
ICDO: Yes the official one, NOT THE WHITE HELMETS.
A mistake, then, and a clear and definitive statement that the White Helmets are not viewed internationally, including by the United Nations, as being a first responder civil defense organization. The only civil defense organization recognized is the real Syrian Civil Defense.
Where does this leave the credibility of those who promote terrorists as heroes?
The Guardian’s comments are the now standard disaster-zone. Open for less than an hour and with a full one-third (18 of the 55) comments censored. Of the 37 remaining, only 15 support the ATL position. And those fifteen comments are all made by the same seven people. This is less about propaganda and more about cultist reality-denial.
Only SEVEN people BTL support Guardian’s fact-free White Helmets editorial
https://off-guardian.org/2016/10/06/30325/
Published on October 6, 2016 - October 4’s WaPo was casually discussing the possibilities of the US escalating the situation in Syria by directly attacking the Syrian army without a UN mandate. The fact that it inverts reality by claiming such illegality would be “humanitarian” while simultaneously accusing the Syrian government and its ally Russia of “war crimes” is not that surprising. But its absolute refusal to recognize the fact that any such move by the US would be a likely introduction to WW3 is a deeper kind of madness.
It’s increasingly clear that the ineffectual John Kerry and his fellow (comparative) non-loons, are failing to rein in the incompetent Keystone Cops-crazies who think they can launch and win a conventional war against Russia. In fact Kerry is partaking of the same rhetoric much of the time, presumably in an attempt not to be sidelined. Neither he nor his friends have the brains, the organization or the will to offer real opposition to the drive to war. The WaPo is presenting what is the current Washington “consensus”, viz adolescent “tough-talking” and heated declamations. The non-crazies may be hoping this war-talk will remain purely that – talk. But absent any diplomatic initiatives or any serious attempts to present alternative analysis, this hope is forlorn. The “conventional war” will be launched and only the idiot-lunatics, the Nulands, Kagans and Carters, will be amazed when it goes nuclear and wipes them (and us) out of existence.
Right now, in the midst of the most dangerous Russian/US stand-off since the Crimea crisis in early 2014, maybe even since the Cuban Missile near-miss, where are the voices of reason in the West? We are on the brink of catastrophic war, and nothing but footling distraction headlines or schizophrenic reality-denial and occasional bouts of hysteria is coming out of the White House or the State Department, or their principal “papers of record.”
If you doubt this even slightly – look at yesterday’s Guardian, where we can find this stunning headline:
“The Guardian view on the Nobel peace prize: give it to Syria’s White Helmets”
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2016/oct/05/the-guardian-view-on-the-nobel-peace-prize-give-it-to-syrias-white-helmets
What is there to say? The facts about the White Helmets are out there and freely available. It’s easy to find out what they are and what they do. It’s established they are a front for Al Nusra and other terrorist outlets, who have openly allied with terrorist groups and faked videos of their own heroism. It’s a fact beyond question that 85%+ of Aleppo is in Syrian government control and is being attacked by the “rebels”, not by the SAA, and that launching a war to “defend” the few pockets of remaining terrorist stronghold would be an act of pure insanity. Everyone with any remaining sanity knows that no one, however evil, could possibly find as many “hospitals” to bomb as Russia allegedly does, even if they went looking. But the WaPo and the Guardian simply behave as if these facts do not exist and are not widely publicized, and the Guardian in particular persists in publishing articles so risible so reality-denying they have destroyed its reputation beyond rescue.
It’s like reading articles by respected authorities claiming gravity no longer exists or that humans can now fly. The reaction we feel is now less anger and more baffled incomprehension.
In fact both the WaPo and the Guardian, and most of the MSM, are currently exhibiting a kind of psychological denial that goes way beyond propaganda and into something much more dangerous and strange. Propaganda is about convincing the masses to believe your lies. But look BTL in the comments under both these articles. Almost no one is believing.
The comments in the WaPo – normally much more pro-official agenda than in the Guardian – are, even with repeat input from a couple of busy warmongers, full of people saying “we don’t want WW3 over Aleppo” or calling out US hypocrisy in arming al Qaeda and al Nusra.
A repost of an SOTT article - from August 14, 2016 - that is being reposted now at this site - giving SOTT Credit
Western corporate media 'disappears' over 1.5 million Syrians and 4,000 doctors
https://www.sott.net/article/325238-Western-corporate-media-disappears-over-1-5-million-Syrians-and-4000-doctors#
Reposted here on Saturday October 8th: In the Comment section, other's are reposting the SOTT article.
Syria: Doctors in Aleppo refute Western media lies
https://off-guardian.org/2016/10/08/syria-doctors-in-aleppo-refute-western-media-lies/