Who is the One? Who is God?

[Wandering Star]

I know we can barely understand fourth density, so understanding what the One is may be an impossible task.

All creation and its beings are "God", but...

Why does he make the periodic outlay (it seems) of creation?

Are there more like him?

Is there an environment?

And so on.

Perhaps the C's who are "closer" to "him" can say something that we from so far away can understand.

 

[Fluffy]

It’s you! Me!
I’m not gonna try to understand that!

 

[axj]

Session 18 October 1994​

Q: (L) Is there only one ultimate creator of the universe

A: All is one. And one is all.

[...]

Q: (L) Is it just part of a great cosmic drama?

A: Yes.

Q: (L) Is the ultimate creator self-conscious and self-aware?

A: Yes and no.

Q: (L) These events that occur in our universe just sort of happen?

A: Close.

Q: (L) Are there other universes besides ours?

A: Yes.

Q: (L) Are these other universes also spun off from "our" ultimate creator?

A: Yes.

Q: (L) Are these universes countable?

A: Counting is artificially limiting concept.

Q: (L) Are the numbers of universes limitless?

A: In a sense.

Q: (L) Do universes ever crash into each other?

A: Too complex.

Session 16 November 1994​

Q: (L) When you reach the seventh level, how would you describe that if 1st level is light?

A: 7th is core of existence.

Q: (L) Well, if seventh density is the core of existence, would that mean that 1st density is the outer edge of existence?

A: Base.

Q: (L) When one has reached 7th density, then what does one do?

A: When one reaches 7th all do.

Q: (L) Are there any beings on 7th level?

A: Time does not exist.

Q: (L) When light is transferred to electrical energy, does it actually change density?

A: Yes.

Q: (L) Is it from 1st to 3rd when it becomes electricity?

A: Yes.

Q: (L) Once again, are there any beings on 7th level?

A: Big bang.

Q: (L) Big bang is at 7th level?

A: Close enough.

Q: (L) So, when we all reach 7th level we will all blow up? We will all become one and it will all start all over again?

A: Close.

Q: (L) Well, that's not a pleasant thought!

A: Why? There is no time, you dwell there eternally. 7th is the light you see at death of the body.

Q: (L) So, when you die and leave the body, do you go to seventh level?

A: See it.

Session 9 September 1995​

Q: (L) What is it that limits our awareness?

A: Your environment. And it is the environment that you have chosen. By your level of progress. And that is what limits everything. As you rise to higher levels of density, limitations are removed.

Q: (L) What creates this environment of limitation?

A: It is the grand illusion which is there for the purpose of learning.

Q: (L) And who put the illusion into place?

A: The Creator who is also the Created. Which is also you and us and all. As we have told you, we are you and vice versa. And so is everything else.

Q: (L) Is the key that it is all illusion?

A: Basically, yes.

Q: (L) So, essentially...

A: As we have told you before, if you will be patient just a moment, the universe is merely a school. And, a school is there for all to learn. That is why everything exists. There is no other reason. Now, if only you understood the true depth of that statement, you would begin to start to see, and experience for yourself, all the levels of density that it is possible to experience, all the dimensions that it is possible to experience, all awareness. When an individual understands that statement to its greatest possible depth, that individual becomes illumined. And, certainly you have heard of that. And, for one moment, which lasts for all eternity, that individual knows absolutely everything that there is to know.

Q: (L) So, you are saying that the path to illumination is knowledge and not love?

A: That is correct.

Q: (L) Is it also correct that emotion can be used to mislead, that is emotions that are twisted and generated strictly from the flesh or false programming?

A: Emotion that limits is an impediment to progress. Emotion is also necessary to make progress in 3rd density. It is natural. When you begin to separate limiting emotions based on assumptions from emotions that open one to unlimited possibilities, that means you are preparing for the next density.

Q: (L) What about Love?

A: What about it?

Q: (L) There are many teachings that are promulgated that Love is the key, the answer. They say that illumination and knowledge and what-not can all be achieved through love.

A: The problem is not the term "love," the problem is the interpretation of the term. Those on third density have a tendency to confuse the issue horribly. After all, they confuse many things as love. When the actual definition of love as you know it is not correct either. It is not necessarily a feeling that one has that can also be interpreted as an emotion, but rather, as we have told you before, the essence of light which is knowledge is love, and this has been corrupted when it is said that love leads to illumination. Love is Light is Knowledge. Love makes no sense when common definitions are used as they are in your environment. To love you must know. And to know is to have light. And to have light is to love. And to have knowledge is to love.

Session 24 September 1995​

A: Who, or what made you?

Q: (RC) The Creator. (L) Prime Creator.

A: How? And who is Prime Creator?

Q: (L) Everything, I guess.

A: You are "Prime Creator."

Q: (L)Well, we know we are... (RC) We are creators, but we aren't the Prime Creator...

A: Prime Creator Manifests IN you.

Session 12 December 1995​

Q: (L) Carlos Castaneda talks about the "Eagle's emanations," the Eagle being, I suppose, Prime Creator that emanates down through all the densities, and that the Nagual who can "see," sees the Eagle as a large black and white object. Are they seeing the source, or are they seeing something on just another density?

A: Source? There is no such thing.

Q: (L) You mean there is no Prime Creator, no origin or source of our existence?

A: You are Prime Creator.

Q: (L) But that is so esoteric... I am talking about...

A: The point is: stop filling your consciousness with monotheistic philosophies planted long ago to imprison your being. Can't you see it by now, after all you have learned, that there is no source, there is no leader, there is no basis, there is no overseer, etc... You literally possess, within your consciousness profile, all the power that exists within all of creation!?! You absolutely have all that exists, ever has, or ever will, contained within your mind. All you have to do is learn how to use it, and at that moment, you will literally, literally, be all that is, was, and ever will be!!!!!!!!

Q: (L) That is all fine and dandy and sounds wonderful, except for one little item. You also say that the monotheistic concepts were IMPOSED on us to prevent us from knowing this. So, if we are all that is, how can something exist that can impose something so unpleasant on us?

A: Choices follow desire based imbalances.

Q: (L) If that is the case, why can't any one just turn off the lights, end the illusion, and everything becomes nothing?

A: Well, first of all, everything does not become nothing. Secondly, some have already become everything.

Session 7 January 1995​

Q: (V) If we are on the 3rd density and you are working with us and we are striving to make 4th density, at the same time are you, at 6th density, striving to reach 7th?

A: Yes.

Q: (T) Is helping us, helping you to reach 7th density? (V) Are there others at higher densities working with you as you are working with us?

A: No, we all reach 7th level together.

Q: (L) So, in other words, you guys are trying to bring us up and everbody else is coming up, and when all the pieces are back together, we then go to 7th, is that it?

A: Yes.

Q: (T) So that is your purpose in helping us?

A: It's a natural process.

Q: (T) Will our function be, when we are at 6th density, to help others on 3rd, as you are doing?

A: Yes. We are you in the future.

Q: (T) When more than 50 per cent of the souls reach 6th density in preparation to go to 7th density, will all the rest of them automatically manifest into that density?

A: Not correct concept. You are using 3rd density "Brotherhood" inspired mathematical calculations and ideas.

Q: (J) So, there are no percentages involved in it. (T) So, we have to get every single soul up there. (V) I don't think it is as much that as that you can't apply 3rd density mathematics to that level. (T) Let's say a majority.

A: No. Still using 3rd density mathematics.

Q: (L) Okay, what criteria constitutes the means of this ultimate translation into 7th density?

A: The lessons completed.

Q: (J) Okay. (T) When all the souls transition to 7th density, will all the souls be integrated into one soul?

A: Close.

Q: (T) So that is why we have to get everybody, because we all become one on 7th density. (D) What will we then do to change the game and make it interesting again?

A: Don't have to "do" anything, has, will, is!!!

Session 25 January 1997​

Q: (Laura) Okay, that's the highest density, number 7. That's "God." (Terry R) The "Creator."

A: No, it is "union with the one."

Q: (Terry A.) Does it represent itself being manifested just in life? Does it stand for life? Is it an example of the life? Of living? Something that's living?

A: Not well put, but, what it is is the animation force of consciousness at all levels and in all representations.

Q: (Laura) Okay... (Terry R) What I'm getting is that as Terry is doing his work, he is able to tap the universal life force, the energy field, the universal energy frequencies...that he's tapping into these.

A: Not germane. All "tap" in this way, but how many "feel" it in some way?!?

Q: (Terry A.) Why do I feel it, and other people don't?

A: Closer to the transformation for 4th density.

 

[Fluffy]

It’s you! Me!
I’m not gonna try to understand that!

Q: (L) When one has reached 7th density, then what does one do?

A: When one reaches 7th all do.


I understand this only as a vision I had that came with an audio message ‘if you knew how, you could collapse everything that exists into oneness’…. The vision was the reversal of the Big Bang in an instant.

 

[Wandering Star]

Session 18 October 1994​

Session 16 November 1994​

Session 9 September 1995​

Session 24 September 1995​

Session 12 December 1995​

Session 7 January 1995​

Session 25 January 1997​

It's a nice compilation, but what is defined is the "one" through the outlay of creation.

What leaves me stunned is looking at that creation and its complexity, the immense mathematics, the interaction of all beings in complete dynamics between them.

So...

What are we when we become One again?

 

[Wandering Star]

The first thing would be to ask if they in the sixth density know this, of course.

 

[axj]

What are we when we become One again?

The same as what we are now, but without any illusions?

(T) When all the souls transition to 7th density, will all the souls be integrated into one soul?

A: Close.

At least until the next "Big Bang" and maybe some changes in the new iteration of the manifested multiverse. How many iterations have there been?

Q: (A) Was there a big bang?

A: There are many of them!

Q: (Perceval) How many? (Laughter)

A: Got a few years to take down the number?

 

[Wandering Star]

At least until the next "Big Bang" and maybe some changes in the new iteration of the manifested multiverse. How many iterations have there been?

The butterfly trying to understand the computer engineer, I know.

But when the Big Bang (simultaneous disbursement of creation) has occurred infinite times and the one has learned who knows what..., then what?

What is the one?

 

[axj]

But when the Big Bang (simultaneous disbursement of creation) has occurred infinite times and the one has learned who knows what..., then what?

What is the one?

There seem to be a few clues from Gurdjieff and from Toltec seers. This is from a different thread on similar topics:

I think there is a good chance that there is a 'higher level of existence' and that there may be other "Absolutes"/Creators besides ours.

What Gurdjieff described (and what Oxajil analyzed in this thread) implies that our Absolute was faced with a force (a sort of "time") that diminished the original Sun-Absolute, which led to the creation of our multiverse as a necessity. This also implies that our Creator/Absolute was faced with something beyond his control, this force of "time".

There is also a clue towards a 'higher level of existence' that is "above" our Creator/Absolute in what according to Theun Mares the Toltec seers have seen about our Creator. Namely, that our Creator/Absolute appears not to be alone. One possible implication of this is again that there are other Creators/Absolutes besides ours.

The two books I am referencing are:

Gurdjieff - "Beelzebulb's Tales To His Grandson"
Theun Mares - "Cry of the Eagle"

This is of course a topic that is close to what is unknowable to us as 3D humans. Though maybe not completely.