Why aren’t people having children?

Sure, it's more complex, but i never thought about this way and it sounds quite true.
I hand't thought about that either personally, but yes.. I think there's a sense of being observed and that tends to change one's behavior. Interesting.

I also would think that at some level people feel that the world isn't a safe place to have and raise children. There has been a push in societies to demonize the nuclear family and that isn't aspirational anymore for young people, it's seen as a defeat and an end to life. Men and Women have been pitted against one another for quite a long time

I'm sure there's all sorts of hyper dimensional, and comic influences impacting that trend, but from another point of view, the creative force, so to speak, required to create life in a couple, has been also demonized and we're growing in a generation where love in a romantic setting ins't aspirational anymore, it has been turned into a zero sum game and without that love, children don't get created.

I found a nifty little map that shows the birthrates around the planet. Interestingly enough, those less connected to the global trends have higher birthrates.
 
Sure, it's more complex, but i never thought about this way and it sounds quite true.​

There has been a push in societies to demonize the nuclear family and that isn't aspirational anymore for young people, it's seen as a defeat and an end to life. Men and Women have been pitted against one another for quite a long time

I'm sure there's all sorts of hyper dimensional, and cosmic influences impacting that trend, but from another point of view, the creative force, so to speak, required to create life in a couple, has been also demonized and we're growing in a generation where love in a romantic setting ins't aspirational anymore, it has been turned into a zero sum game and without that love, children don't get created.

It's a question that refers back to what Laura wrote:


In a dying culture that treats biological sex as a costume, fertility as a disease, and children as optional accessories, something ancient is stirring. The same Real that discloses Itself as both the Gentle and the Terrible is no longer willing to be edited out of Its own Book.

Using Ibn al-ʿArabī’s radical theodicy, Cassiopaean metaphysics, classical Taoist sexual alchemy, and the raw data of collapsing birth rates and broken bonds, this essay argues that the current war on sexual polarity is not a progressive triumph but the greatest 4th-density STS frequency-fence operation in recorded history.
 
I also would think that at some level people feel that the world isn't a safe place to have and raise children.

I am not sure that this a very strong factor - my money would be more on the dissolution of the nuclear family, traditional values and mounting oppressiveness of authorities.

I remember the early 80s in Europe, when NATO (or rather the US) decided to station some Pershing 2 nuclear missiles in Europe. This led to widespread fears of a nuclear war, widespread protests, and effectively, 1983 during the Able Archer military manoeuvres, the Soviet Union went full red alert, thinking that a nuclear war was about to start, and the world came close to a nuclear exchange.

But even then, seeing a potential nuclear annihilation on the horizon, the birthrate didn’t drop down significantly. At any rate not much more than it was decreasing already overall.


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And of course our “friends from 4D” would have had their hands in the pie …
 
Transition from the 3rd to the 4th density, end of the major 75,000-year cycle; entities are incarnating less and less at this end of the cycle, which is normal. (Taken from what I read on the Law of One of Ra and Q'uo, if you're interested)
 
Hello @dredger !

From my point of view, offsprings would be the genetic extension of two individuals.

Certainly, in most 3rd density cases, when a couple choses to concretize this project, somewhere between the unconscious and a deeper level, having a child could mean that the parents’ transgenerational lineages - the latter, linked to STS thought centers as well as what Bernard de Montréal names the ‘spirit of Intelligence’ -, express the need to create a new genetic encoding to be able to surpass a potential involutive future.

Furthermore, in my perspective, individuals who learn about themselves through their personal inner process and decide to accomplish their higher universal mandate, might then be plugged to higher consciousness centers and may even have the possibility of recognizing offsprings probably coming from other dimensions and/or densities, depending on memories of the soul and Spirit.

When the Cassiopaeans affirmed on various occasions : « You in the future » and further on : « Help is on its way », in my own approach, this could probably mean, for example, that LKJ and Ark’s hyper-dimensional and cosmic offsprings are the help they are actually looking for. They might even already be incarnated through members of the Château team as well as other potential individuals.

Therefore, depending on « Who » is the consciousness receiving information from the Cassiopaeans, taking the aspect of time into account as well as which reality level the Cassiopaeans might be transmitting data to, in the present, through LKJ and the Château team’s humanity, the Cassiopaeans’ offsprings could technically already be the ones who have recognized themselves as those who have chosen to do their own part of this universal teamwork, specifically LKJ, Ark and their Château team.

Cheers!
 
A few years ago, John Carter wrote an article on his Postcards from Barsoom Substack that looked at why the birthrate has declined.
Titled "Pixel Valhalla"

Quote:
But why are so many young men withdrawing from the world? The obvious answer is that our world offers them so little. There is no adventure in Safety Land. There is no meaningful work under a managerial regime that reduces humans to entries in a spreadsheet whose job is to fill out more entries in a spreadsheet. There is no way to prove themselves in a culture that prizes equality over quality. That the Norse vikings envisioned an afterlife that was simply their actual life amped up to eleven is telling. Their afterworld was not a retirement from life; their reward for a life of war was more war, as preparation for the ultimate and final war. And they looked forward to this. To earn one’s place in the Hall of the Valr spurred them on to valour. Valhalla speaks to something primal within the male spirit – the hunger for the joy of battle, the yearning for the razor’s edge of the hunt, the instinctive knowledge that they are meant above all to be predators. Modernity denies them this utterly, imprisoning them within cages of regulation and creature comfort, and offering Pixel Valhalla as a sop the way an infant is given a pacifier.
 
"Valhalla speaks to something primal within the male spirit – the hunger for the joy of battle, the yearning for the razor’s edge of the hunt, the instinctive knowledge that they are meant above all to be predators. Modernity denies them this utterly, imprisoning them within cages of regulation and creature comfort, and offering Pixel Valhalla as a sop the way an infant is given a pacifier."

Here is something important to note. The difference between a hunter and a predator. What does that have to do with anything in this thread, you may ask. It has to do with that primitive thing mentioned in the quote:
Hunter: Active, selective, often with a code or purpose (may be honorable or ritualistic). Seeks specific prey, invests effort/strategy, may involve “sport” or a test of skill.

Analogy: a lion hunting for food, or a human hunting animals for food/survival. On a metaphysical level: someone who actively pursues knowledge or even “hunts” predators (STO exposing STS). (in the context in which we currently operate, taking the point of view of the esoteric knowledge discussed here in the forum).

Predator: Passive-parasitic in essence: feeds continuously and systemically, does not need to “hunt” each time because the system is designed so that the prey comes to it (manipulation, mind control, belief matrices).

No honor, no code, purely extractive and sadistic in many cases.

Analogy: a parasite, a tick, or the 4D STS who “milk” the Earth like a loosh farm. The predator does not “hunt” because it already has the herd under control; it only harvests.​

Aspect
Hunter
Predator
Primary orientation
It can be neutral or even STO in context.
Almost always STS (Service to Self)
Method
Active: pursues, plans, invests effort
Parasitic: manipulates so that energy flows toward them
Purpose
Survival, ritual, trial, knowledge
Continuous energy feeding and sadistic pleasure
Scale
Individual or selective
Systemic, on a planetary or hyperdimensional scale
Example
Human who “hunts” the truth or exposes psychopaths
4D STS, human psychopaths, “lizzies” feeding on fear

I don't know if I'm expressing the idea, or the underlying meaning, correctly. But what I mean is that, as far as the male side is concerned, they have effectively emasculated men, so that we don't have the strength to keep the incursions of STS entities or STS itself in people's minds at bay.

It is modernity that defaces man. So, taking Laura's text as a reference, there is no healthy expression of the names of God in the incarnation of the masculine. (and it also applies to the feminine form). By reducing the healthy expression of masculinity/femininity, they create this cage of hyperdimensional control, and thus a being in captivity will have neither the will nor the energy to procreate and continue the species.​
 
They are taught to not have families.

I walked through town today (Brighton in England) and there was a billboard with a white couple on it the man's face had black holes on it, like some disease and the woman like she was a zombie her teeth and mouth falling off her face. It's rare to see a billboard with a white couple.

Next billboard is a huge black man holding a white woman.
Go into the pharmacy Boots, almost every single billboard is a black person.
And everybody in the shop is white.

It is psychological destruction.
It is everywhere.

On TV almost every single advert - no white people, and if they are in the advert then they are crawling on the floor and licking the shoes of somebody else.

I saw another billboard for some series, it was 2 white people and the entire poster was blood red like their blood was flowing out at the butchers.

I assume that american corporations think that to torture the native population is the only way to make money, because society is sort of imploding, so you pump what is left. A lot of businesses are closing in the UK, lockdowns hit very hard.

My neighbours are very normal english people,
Very normal.
First one no kids.
Second one, one girl screams all the time like mental or something, screaming for about 5 years.
Third one, had a boy and a girl.
But no longer .... boy and girl.

I guess if I say anything, I will be banned cancelled.
Nobody is allowed to say anything.

When I was young in the 90s the UK was 95% white British.
Can't talk about that anymore or you lose your job.
etc...

Okay, beautiful story. Let's have a nice big family.

Actually in the UK, I hear that a lot of muslims who came in recently have large families.
UK Gov pays a lot of benefits, but you can't notice that or you are banned.
 
Hello @dredger !

From my point of view, offsprings would be the genetic extension of two individuals.

Certainly, in most 3rd density cases, when a couple choses to concretize this project, somewhere between the unconscious and a deeper level, having a child could mean that the parents’ transgenerational lineages - the latter, linked to STS thought centers as well as what Bernard de Montréal names the ‘spirit of Intelligence’ -, express the need to create a new genetic encoding to be able to surpass a potential involutive future.

Furthermore, in my perspective, individuals who learn about themselves through their personal inner process and decide to accomplish their higher universal mandate, might then be plugged to higher consciousness centers and may even have the possibility of recognizing offsprings probably coming from other dimensions and/or densities, depending on memories of the soul and Spirit.

When the Cassiopaeans affirmed on various occasions : « You in the future » and further on : « Help is on its way », in my own approach, this could probably mean, for example, that LKJ and Ark’s hyper-dimensional and cosmic offsprings are the help they are actually looking for. They might even already be incarnated through members of the Château team as well as other potential individuals.

Therefore, depending on « Who » is the consciousness receiving information from the Cassiopaeans, taking the aspect of time into account as well as which reality level the Cassiopaeans might be transmitting data to, in the present, through LKJ and the Château team’s humanity, the Cassiopaeans’ offsprings could technically already be the ones who have recognized themselves as those who have chosen to do their own part of this universal teamwork, specifically LKJ, Ark and their Château team.

Cheers!

Hi again @dredger

FYI, it happens that I have just been reading Les enfants de la volonté by Bernard de Montréal interviewed by François Payotte, which most likely contains many answers to your general question.

I will attach the .pdf file and the link to the audio on youtube which, unfortunately, are both in french. However, you may find a way to translate it and therefore be able to read or listen to these documents.

Have a good evening, see you!

Bernard de Montréal interviewé par François Payotte - Les enfants de la volonté AUDIO FR
 

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I would have children again in the next life. Having children might be like the short wave, and not having children might be like the long wave. I think lessons are accelerated having children.

Or John 15:2:

Every branch in Me that does not produce fruit He removes, and He prunes every branch that produces fruit so that it will produce more fruit.​

In the context of this thread, it is also true that for some people, not having children (fruit) or not starting a family is equivalent to pruning the tree so that (the soul) can grow stronger. Pruning represents a necessary cleansing (through the word) to remove what hinders spiritual growth. A process of purification or discipline that removes obstacles (sin, distractions) to foster greater spiritual productivity.

It can also be interpreted this way: The energy that you do not use for the cycle of the general law, you use to grow in the law of exception. (Gnosis)
 
There are children, perhaps fewer, but they're still there. I love watching them; they're wonderful. I stop and watch them walking hand in hand when they go in groups. In pairs, absolutely delightful. They're there. Cute as can be. And I also go to the park sometimes with my dog, I sit and watch them play, and I watch the parents. There aren't many of them, it's true. But they're there. The saddest thing during the lockdown they forced us into during Covid was not seeing children anywhere. Oh, but when the penance was lifted, to see the first brave parents walking with their children in the street! Fantastic. It was as if life suddenly resumed what it is: life.

They are there, don't doubt it. You must watch them when they pass near you, because it's beauty passing by. And that's a gift from heaven.
 
Changing individual and cultural values, perceived safety, ect. plays a small role compared to the fact that the core reason people are not having children is because it's no longer affordable. The estimated % of 30-year-olds who were both married and homeowners in 2020 was 13%. That number will have dropped dramatically since Covid related inflation turned the majority of those below 35 years old into permanent renters. This isn't due to 30 year-olds changing belief systems that turned against owning homes and starting families - it is because the PTB have created an environment where they can't afford to.

"They'll tell you people just choose differently now—that marriage rates fell because of changing values. But people can't choose what they can't afford."

I saw this chart making the rounds on Twitter this week, and it stopped me cold. While the specific figures combine data from multiple sources, the trend is undeniable: in 1950, over half of 30-year-olds were married homeowners. By 2025, some analysts project that number as low as 13%.



That's not a societal transformation. It's not an economic fluke. It's the visible outcome of an invisible strategy—one that extracted everything it could from a three-generation arc and left only illusions in its place.

They'll tell you people just choose differently now—that marriage rates fell because of changing values. But people can't choose what they can't afford. When the economic foundation for family formation disappears, cultural changes follow inevitably. That chart doesn't show us changing values or new priorities. It shows systemic breakdown, disguised for decades as freedom.

It maps the slow evaporation of the social contract. For one generation, adulthood was a starting point. For the next, a struggle. For the latest, an abstraction—marketed endlessly but almost never attained. What began as a rite of passage has become a paywalled simulation.

The post–World War II boom was never sustainable. In hindsight, this was obvious. It relied on conditions that were always time-limited: cheap energy from newly tapped oil fields, industrial monopolies before globalization kicked in, dollar hegemony that exported inflation globally, and a demographic pyramid with more workers than retirees. It was a golden window, not a golden age. And when the window closed, the illusion had to be maintained—through leverage, narrative, and ever-increasing sacrifice from the generations that followed.

The math quietly stopped working. Boomers bought homes for two or three times their annual income during an era when interest rates would fall for the next four decades—turning their mortgages into wealth-building machines as rates dropped from 15% to near-zero. Today's buyers face five to six times their income—or more in major cities—while rates can only go up from historic lows. Where Boomers rode a 40-year tailwind of falling borrowing costs that inflated their assets while deflated their debt, current generations face headwinds at every turn. The Federal Reserve data confirms this unprecedented decline, showing rates falling from over 18% in the early 1980s to near 2.6% by 2021.



The housing market itself tells the story: recent data shows over 500,000 more sellers than buyers - not because homes are affordable, but because an entire generation has been systematically priced out.



The institutions that promised stability—education, government, media, finance—mutated into extraction machines. Still speaking the old language, they now served a different purpose: to keep people compliant inside a system that no longer offered a way out.

This wasn't merely economic. It was existential. The foundations of meaning—family, ownership, stability—were quietly downgraded to lifestyle preferences, and then systematically priced out. People without homes are easier to relocate. People without families are easier to isolate. People without rootedness are easier to govern. Beau: The above is the social engineering created by the PTB and their 4D masters IMO

The Boomers didn't design the con, but they lived in its payout phase. They received land, pensions, and a functional society. Many still believe they earned it, unable to recognize how thoroughly their reality was engineered from the start. Their children were left trying to replicate a model that no longer existed. Their grandchildren have grown up in the wreckage, wondering why their competence and effort never translate into traction.

This didn't happen by accident. As I've documented in The Technocratic Blueprint, we're witnessing the culmination of a century-long plan—a sophisticated pump and dump scheme where the bill is finally coming due. The architecture for this extraction has deep historical roots, dating back to systematic changes in how America was governed and how citizens were legally classified. What followed was a long, slow harvest of the population—one that disguised control as progress, debt as opportunity, and collapse as evolution. The postwar boom didn't contradict that system—it lubricated it.

Now, the mirage is gone. What was once promised can no longer be afforded. The institutions that upheld the illusion are spent. They extract, but no longer inspire. They preach equity while enforcing dependence. They sell empowerment while removing agency.

And still, they insist the dream is alive.
 
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