Winter Storm Threatens East Coast? Batten Down the Hatches

Gawan said:
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Heimdallr said:
Meanwhile NYC is using 3 generators (2 live, 1 backup) to help power the NYC Marathon and a couple more are being used in a Manhattan neighborhood without power to film an SNL skit. If it wasn't clear before, it's obvious now - we live in a crazy insane world...

Indeed, it's all about the money, as usual. The marathon brings in about $340 Million to the City itself.

What? That's really insane. Also when it would be not possible to feed the normal power grid with these generators something more useful and helpful could be done nonetheless. It's eventually also a bit symbolic on what - energy - gets spend on.

It's obscene and psychopathic when there are people who are cold and in the dark and need help.
 
Gimpy said:
Just saw a breaking news banner on Yahoo stating that the marathon has been canceled.

Bloomberg must have gotten too much negative feedback from normies.
 
Gimpy said:
Just saw a breaking news banner on Yahoo stating that the marathon has been canceled.

Appears so: http://www.sott.net/article/253072-Some-relief-After-controversy-Bloomberg-calls-off-New-York-City-Marathon
 
Divide By Zero said:
Underground cables and transformers are sealed and run fine in water, if they have been regularly checked/maintained! The work done to seal in the high voltage requires a THICK level of rubber and other materials, designed to seal out water and insulate the high voltage.

Yup. Underground cables are much closer to ground (electrically and literally). That's why we still have wires between poles: because those wires with much thinner insulation + the insulating air around the cables is waaaay cheaper and easier to maintain. Unfortunately, it's also kind of idiotic, because it really is a fragile system even if it is well-maintained.

Of course, with proper manpower, electrical service could be restored much more quickly.

There was this guy named Tesla, and he had some ingenious ideas for transmitting basically free power "wirelessly" (not like the current new-fangled wireless charging gizmos they are coming out with now), but alas...
 
Mr. Scott said:
There was this guy named Tesla, and he had some ingenious ideas for transmitting basically free power "wirelessly" (not like the current new-fangled wireless charging gizmos they are coming out with now), but alas...

I guess that the catch is in free power... :halo:
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supriyanoel said:
I am on Staten Island which was hit pretty hard. There have been some deaths along the coast.We went out in trucks to rescue a few stranded people and animals along with the fire dept as was possible. In my home there was a lot of superficial damage, 52 bags of debris from trees. It took superhuman strength ,at least for me. I didn't think I had this much strength in me. I asked the universe is all I can say and it answered. What I also observed,and had me horrified and shocked, was the behavior of most neighbors. Not one person asked to help me, and I am alone with a pretty big piece of property to care for. Not even my tenant came out, and later on when he did, and I expressed my concern and need for help, there was no response. Literally, and these are people I know and have friendly relationships with. I moved a bunch of trees that fell across the street, and men were taking pictures of me.The millionaire next door gave me an old broken flashlight when I finally asked. I felt like i was in the twilight zone. I am not a whiner.What I observed was pshycopathy in action. Not only that, but there were definite programs and limitations in these people that were right in front of you that were like robots short-circuiting. This did not look human, there was something very out of whack here. I've seen this before, but not en masse and not as clear. Most just refused to acknowledge anyones plight. I thought that I could be going a little bonkers myself, and when I questioned my niece 2 houses down, she also said that the same people walked away from her on other occasions during short little pleasentries that she initiated in a neighborly way. Something prompted me to walk over to a worker that came to move trees, and he had told me that people all over were paying no attention to his directions, which could of meant life and death.I think I woke up a little more. And it doesn't matter where I am, these same people I would help if they asked, no matter what. I know its in times like these that show us who we choose to be, and though I'm a selfish being in 3D, my initial responses to disaster showed me this time, that not only the people, but the trees, and animals are as important to give thanks to as well as each other. I sang to those trees, as corny as it sounds and maybe crazy,but I thought of the respect the Indians of this country had. And I sang thanks to every one of them and touched them all. I didn't ask for protection, because they to have a will of there own that I have no business interfering in. I just thanked them for their wonderful gift they gave to so many of us on the land. And I sang LOUD. To heck with the neighbors!And the doggies were by my side all through the storm that raged.As I sit in HOME DEPOT, writing this I am grateful I can plug in here. And will have enough .duct tape, and hopefully enough batteries and blankets to stay warm. I'll be fine no matter what. People died,so my plight is nothing, and thanks to the connection of the people, YOU!,her, I have all I need. Thanks for listening. I'm comforted just to know you're all here .I will take pics if possible.

I'm so sorry you had to go through this alone but it was truly wonderful that you rose to the occasion to help whenever you could and made a connection with the universe! Since I haven't seen you post in a bit, I was wondering if you'd been hit with the storm and it is so good to know you are okay. I second Al Today's post and am very thankful for all the good people of this world and this forum.

And for everyone else struggling with the after effects of this storm, there was this report of another one coming in soon so please take care.
http://www.sott.net/article/253063-Powerful-nor-easter-winter-storm-bears-down-on-US-East-Coast
 
To day we got the power after 3+ days and our neighborhood seems to coming back to normal slowly. More gas stations are opened and more cars queued up for gas filling. Still some poles are on the roads( so does the traffic issues), probably they are categorized as low priority Jobs. I have seen poles falling down /breaking in between 2 days after the hurricane passage and some fireworks too on the poles that are marking the road border on a busy high way. This is dangerous as one single poll can electrocute 4 or 5 cars during the busy time.


supriyanoel said:
I am on Staten Island which was hit pretty hard. There have been some deaths along the coast.We went out in trucks to rescue a few stranded people and animals along with the fire dept as was possible. In my home there was a lot of superficial damage, 52 bags of debris from trees. It took superhuman strength ,at least for me. I didn't think I had this much strength in me. I asked the universe is all I can say and it answered. What I also observed,and had me horrified and shocked, was the behavior of most neighbors. Not one person asked to help me, and I am alone with a pretty big piece of property to care for. Not even my tenant came out, and later on when he did, and I expressed my concern and need for help, there was no response.

Today some body at my work mentioned about this lack of support/cooperation in staten Island with disgust. NJ seems to be doing better on this front. People are calling radio stations announcing free food, coffee, free electronic charge facilities at their own restaurants, businesses and at the impacted area. Though there may be some PR component exist in it, looks generous during this time. some church guys dangled the leaflet to my door, saying free food, coffee tomorrow. Some Radio stations are acting as a information bridge between people in need of information and people who has information( shelters, hotels with vacancies , doctors, veterinarians,open gas locations) etc. As usual , utility companies are doing their PR advertisements as a damage control
 
anart said:
Yep, this is exactly what I watched this summer when we were without power for almost 5 days. At first I thought, "what is taking them so long!" then I thought, "how can they ever get all this done?" because it is a block by block (often house by house) process of putting up new power poles, stringing new wires and slowly, slowly rebuilding what is downed. It's not a high tech business - it is wooden poles and electric wire just hanging there in the sky. It amazes me that our whole society is dependent on wooden poles and wires hanging between them - that's it. I was impressed with the guys working here last summer. It was over 100 degrees out there and they were doing it from sun up past sun down, slowly slowly block by block, usually house by house because they had to run wires to each house from the wires at the tops of the poles. Our whole electrically based society is really just hanging by a thread.

It's probably a mostly thankless job, too, despite how incredibly critical it is to modern society. I really wouldn't be surprised if these poor workers got more complaints ([whine]"why haven't you gotten my power back on yet?"[/whine] or "well that took you long enough!", etc) than any showing of gratitude--they probably don't get paid very well either.

Perhaps I'm just being cynical, though.
 
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To day we got the power after 3+ days and our neighborhood seems to coming back to normal slowly.
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Glad to hear it. Considering what Joe said here http://www.sott.net/article/253061-Hungry-and-Powerless-in-the-Empire-State about the elderly in high rises et al, and what they would have to contend with, it would be difficult. This is aggravated by the fact that there seems little in the way of intervention except from local people; same old, same old.
 
voyageur said:
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To day we got the power after 3+ days and our neighborhood seems to coming back to normal slowly.

Glad to hear it. Considering what Joe said here http://www.sott.net/article/253061-Hungry-and-Powerless-in-the-Empire-State about the elderly in high rises et al, and what they would have to contend with, it would be difficult. This is aggravated by the fact that there seems little in the way of intervention except from local people; same old, same old.
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Yupp, totally true.

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Here's a couple more pictures of Brighton Beach area of Brooklyn.
 

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After taking a look at the devastation that occurred along the coast and other places, we were pretty lucky. I saw one house that had a good size tree fall on it, but other than that people's homes looked mostly fine. As far as I know, most of the damage was done to the electrical lines.

This is right outside our house. There had also been a tree that came down on the line a bit closer to us, but that has since been removed.

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Just down the road, a big tree came down. On a closer look, it looked like it was hollow inside. The damage to our area was primarily from winds and trees. We didn't have that much flooding as there wasn't much rain. Just heavy, heavy winds.

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Here a tree fell towards the road onto an electrical wire. People were still traveling under this.

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The MTA New York City Transit posted some pictures of them removing water from the subway tunnels - http://www.flickr.com/photos/mtaphotos/sets/72157631915979762/
 
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