Words......

alphonse said:
The over use and the improper use of exclamation marks!!!
(sadly, guilty of that one myself on occasion!!!!!)
Al

What do you mean?!?!?!?!?!?!? :D
 
Just more thoughts on the Word subject. I posted before but wanted to look at words further.

Words are used to hide behind. They can be interpreted in many ways so this enables someone to be deceptive. Why most politicians speak but act differently. More words can be used to try and do away with what was said before.
We speak but we are living words. If we express ourselves truthfully in the way of thought to direct action rather than thought to words then action. The mind plays a part in the interpretation of thought to action. When funneled through the mind thought can be broken up into many pieces similar to the effect of light in a prism. Another play on words would be the word Prison, Prison and Prism has a similar sound. Hence the essence of a prison is to trap and break a being apart. It does not rectify any problems the individual may have had before entering. Prism breaks light into variations of the trapped light. So when looking at thought as light and we are beings of light then we can say then we are all one in essence. We view ourselves in a mirrored effect inside the prism. We are the same being interacting with another image of ourselves. The Prism/Prison brings forth confusion so we do not grasp that we are actually viewing ourselves.
Other aspects of this are we as beings give away ourselves to the system or machine for it to live. When we deny who we are we then allow the machine to create an artificial version of a piece of us. This continues the breaking apart effect. An example again on playing with words is the use of the telephone, television, and the Internet/Ethernet.
Examples on wordplay and how we can see how we are losing ourselves:
• Telephone = Telepathy
• Telephone is the artificial way of communicating to another being over distances.
• Telepathy is the natural way of communicating. It is a direct communication through thought imaging (see below) from being to being. We do this in a similar manner on earth but there is a delay between the actual thought and the manifestation of the thought in the physical plane.
Imaging = Imagination This is the same as below. Due to the lack of true imaging/imagination we fall to the use of the television.
• Television=Voyeur
Television is the artificial means that let you view different images of places, events, and or things.
Voyeur is the natural way of viewing over distances. Some may say it is a trance state but I do not know how to describe it. It is more like you are in two places at once.
• The Internet or Ethernet is actually mimicking the Ether.
The Ether where we can access infinite amount of information and communicate and interact with other beings.
The internet/Ethernet brings all that in the broadest of scopes together in an artificial means.
There are other words we can look at but these are the most popular that comes to mind. The flexibility of words should be looked at and then understand truly why the word of a person cannot be trusted. Also why actions reveal the essence of the individual and that is what may validate the word of that being.
Just thought to share this and see how we can possibly expand on this. If this was discussed then it was not my intention to waste anyone’s time.
 
Words are also our main means of connecting with others and used with external considering, can help us do just that. Is the glass half empty or half full?

I say "defrost."
 
Scheduling my defrosting. I can see where I definitely had a one sided focus. Thank you.
 
ha, i think it's "y'all"...meaning "you all". "ya'll" would mean "ya will"...right? :P
 
The one which I find both curious and annoying is the propensity for many on the web to use lower-case letters ALL the time:

"i think this might be a result of cell phones. does texting with capital letters in the appropriate spots take a great deal more effort?"

Though I've also noted that some seem to leave out capital letters as a deliberate point of honor. Typically I see this lack of formality among people who I find abrasive and often, downright narcissistic. Logically, it seems to me that a high level of self-importance would demand the use of a capitalized self-referencing. (Self-ornamenting?) However, the opposite seems to hold true. Perhaps it's a kind of laziness; "Who cares what the outside world has to struggle through in order to understand me? I don't need to impress anybody or follow their rules because I already believe down in my bones that I'm number one!"

Still, it got me thinking; does using a capital "I" imply a degree of self-importance? Is this an example of ego exerting itself? When I consider abandoning the upper case "I", I certainly feel a much stronger emotional reaction than ought logically to be warranted. Perhaps it's a pack mentality thing; people not following the accepted group rules are damaging to the social fabric.
 
Woodsman said:
Still, it got me thinking; does using a capital "I" imply a degree of self-importance? Is this an example of ego exerting itself? When I consider abandoning the upper case "I", I certainly feel a much stronger emotional reaction than ought logically to be warranted. Perhaps it's a pack mentality thing; people not following the accepted group rules are damaging to the social fabric.

For me, I would use whichever convention was asked for/expected by the group to avoid unnecessary distraction from the content of the post/message. As it stands, I use 'capital I' because it's grammatically correct as I have always done, without regard to my self-importance as far as I know.

I don't use a cell phone or send text messages, but if I did I would use the 'lower case I' and any other expected/acceptable shortcuts to minimize effort. :)

At any rate, personally, I don't care how people type as long as I can understand them, but that's me. :)
 
Bud said:
I don't use a cell phone or send text messages, but if I did I would use the 'lower case I' and any other expected/acceptable shortcuts to minimize effort. :)

At any rate, personally, I don't care how people type as long as I can understand them, but that's me. :)

This makes sense. I find it valuable to remind myself that our present form of language and its rules did not arrive whole cloth but rather evolved as a result of popular usage and the on-going deformation of otherwise accepted conventions. I suppose the difference these days is that there is a great deal more language and spelling reference available to everybody, all of it literally at out finger tips.

HowToBe said:
In Daniel Tammet's book, Embracing The Wide Open Sky, he cites some research indicating that people have natural tendancies and instincts concerning the sounds that make up words, and that sound does relate to meaning. I'm finding the concept fun to explore a bit. The following are just my observations.

The sounds of 'i', 'e', 't', and 'k' seem to be often connected with smallness and pointedness, whereas 'o', 'u', 'b', and 'L' tend toward the large, round, and powerful. The letters 'a' seems to swings around a bit, but seems to often express length, rigidity, and squareness, and combines with letter 'L' a lot.
tiny, teeny, twinkle, sprinkles, sip, tip, pin, tine, tick, inch, kit, mite, tike, spike, stick, bit, spite, spit, needle, knit, trickle, chip, girl.
round, bounce, ball, huge, block, loud, rush, boulder, chunk, crowd, power, tumble, rumble, crumble, thunder, hour, tower, plow, bomb, spoon.
small, tall, mall, stall, large, barge, charge, all, wall, law, lasso, margin, saw, man, rail, tail, scale, sail, tape, late, massive, flat.

Anyway, it's sort of interesting to me, although learning etymology is the most useful, I think.

This reminded me of one of the C's comments. Let me see if I can find it. . .

Session 25, April 2010

Q: (L) I've often wondered when these names come up. They're just such strange things. What is it that they mean?

A: They relate to the specific vibrational frequency of the moment as expressed by the numerical frequency of the combination of vowels and consonants.

Q: (L) What is the numerical frequency of a vowel and consonant?

A: It is a science barely understood by your civilization but was once well known. Words have deeper meaning than you suspect.

Q: (Bubbles) Like in numerology?

A: Similar, but that is a dim reflection of the ancient science.

Something in me resonates deeply when I consider this idea. I have definitely noticed how the mere *sound* of some words has a powerful effect on me. I have even wondered if some whole language groups might be tied to cultural differences in much deeper ways than otherwise suspected. Some languages seem to activate, in my view, radically different behavior patterns between cultures experiencing otherwise similar circumstances. Some languages sound to people untrained in that language, as though speakers are yelling angrily at each other when really they are having normal discussions. I can't help but wonder how that affects the subconscious.

I think languages do a great deal to shape young minds as they grow. There's clearly a lot to this, but I don't want to get too distracted by jumping into a full study of the phenomenon of word sounds and how they affect the listener and how they combine with word meanings. Still, the C's offer a great lead for anybody who wants to go spelunking the subject!
 
hello all,

as a committed lower case abuser, allow me to share my reasoning.

capital letter at the start of a sentence, just unnecessary. there is a full stop; and double space already. although since reading Beatrix Potter to my children, maybe i overuse the semi colon now. as you may have noticed, i do try to capitalize proper names. however, i tend to drop that for my friends, which will probably prove difficult as i'll be talking to loads of new people here.

i apologize in advance, should i mistakenly minimize your name.

of course lastly, i am certainly not important enough to aggrandize.

15 keystrokes saved on this post alone!

jeff
 
societe humaine said:
hello all,

as a committed lower case abuser, allow me to share my reasoning.

capital letter at the start of a sentence, just unnecessary. there is a full stop; and double space already. although since reading Beatrix Potter to my children, maybe i overuse the semi colon now. as you may have noticed, i do try to capitalize proper names. however, i tend to drop that for my friends, which will probably prove difficult as i'll be talking to loads of new people here.

i apologize in advance, should i mistakenly minimize your name.

of course lastly, i am certainly not important enough to aggrandize.

15 keystrokes saved on this post alone!

jeff

Hi Jeff, please look up 'external consideration' on the forum and in the cassiopedia. It is extremely important that you write for other people, not for yourself and part of that is using correct grammar and punctuation since there are many people here who do not have English as a first language.
 
Woodsman said:
Bud said:
I don't use a cell phone or send text messages, but if I did I would use the 'lower case I' and any other expected/acceptable shortcuts to minimize effort. :)

At any rate, personally, I don't care how people type as long as I can understand them, but that's me. :)

This makes sense. I find it valuable to remind myself that our present form of language and its rules did not arrive whole cloth but rather evolved as a result of popular usage and the on-going deformation of otherwise accepted conventions. I suppose the difference these days is that there is a great deal more language and spelling reference available to everybody, all of it literally at out finger tips.

HowToBe said:
In Daniel Tammet's book, Embracing The Wide Open Sky, he cites some research indicating that people have natural tendancies and instincts concerning the sounds that make up words, and that sound does relate to meaning. I'm finding the concept fun to explore a bit. The following are just my observations.

The sounds of 'i', 'e', 't', and 'k' seem to be often connected with smallness and pointedness, whereas 'o', 'u', 'b', and 'L' tend toward the large, round, and powerful. The letters 'a' seems to swings around a bit, but seems to often express length, rigidity, and squareness, and combines with letter 'L' a lot.
tiny, teeny, twinkle, sprinkles, sip, tip, pin, tine, tick, inch, kit, mite, tike, spike, stick, bit, spite, spit, needle, knit, trickle, chip, girl.
round, bounce, ball, huge, block, loud, rush, boulder, chunk, crowd, power, tumble, rumble, crumble, thunder, hour, tower, plow, bomb, spoon.
small, tall, mall, stall, large, barge, charge, all, wall, law, lasso, margin, saw, man, rail, tail, scale, sail, tape, late, massive, flat.

Anyway, it's sort of interesting to me, although learning etymology is the most useful, I think.

This reminded me of one of the C's comments. Let me see if I can find it. . .

Session 25, April 2010

Q: (L) I've often wondered when these names come up. They're just such strange things. What is it that they mean?

A: They relate to the specific vibrational frequency of the moment as expressed by the numerical frequency of the combination of vowels and consonants.

Q: (L) What is the numerical frequency of a vowel and consonant?

A: It is a science barely understood by your civilization but was once well known. Words have deeper meaning than you suspect.

Q: (Bubbles) Like in numerology?

A: Similar, but that is a dim reflection of the ancient science.

Something in me resonates deeply when I consider this idea. I have definitely noticed how the mere *sound* of some words has a powerful effect on me. I have even wondered if some whole language groups might be tied to cultural differences in much deeper ways than otherwise suspected. Some languages seem to activate, in my view, radically different behavior patterns between cultures experiencing otherwise similar circumstances. Some languages sound to people untrained in that language, as though speakers are yelling angrily at each other when really they are having normal discussions. I can't help but wonder how that affects the subconscious.

I think languages do a great deal to shape young minds as they grow. There's clearly a lot to this, but I don't want to get too distracted by jumping into a full study of the phenomenon of word sounds and how they affect the listener and how they combine with word meanings. Still, the C's offer a great lead for anybody who wants to go spelunking the subject!


Curiously I was thinking about this yesterday, and wondering whether certain words sound 'right' because of our conditioning, or if they have some extra-human aspect to them.

For example, Tiger seems to me to suit the animal of the tiger, kind of majestic, cunning and aggressive. The word 'sloth' seems to suit the animal sloth perfectly. 'Sun' sounds simple, strong and powerful, whereas 'moon' sounds more mysterious and softer.

This could all be my entirely subjective musings, though.
 
societe humaine said:
hello all,

as a committed lower case abuser, allow me to share my reasoning.

capital letter at the start of a sentence, just unnecessary. there is a full stop; and double space already. although since reading Beatrix Potter to my children, maybe i overuse the semi colon now. as you may have noticed, i do try to capitalize proper names. however, i tend to drop that for my friends, which will probably prove difficult as i'll be talking to loads of new people here.

i apologize in advance, should i mistakenly minimize your name.

of course lastly, i am certainly not important enough to aggrandize.

15 keystrokes saved on this post alone!

jeff

Your opinion. Those of others may vary. That is External Consideration.
 
societe humaine said:
hello all,

as a committed lower case abuser, allow me to share my reasoning.

capital letter at the start of a sentence, just unnecessary. there is a full stop; and double space already. although since reading Beatrix Potter to my children, maybe i overuse the semi colon now. as you may have noticed, i do try to capitalize proper names. however, i tend to drop that for my friends, which will probably prove difficult as i'll be talking to loads of new people here.

Hi jeff,

Knives, forks and many kinds of plates are not absolutely necessary.

Imagine being a guest for dinner and dumping your food in front of you on the table cloth and eating with your fingers.
 
societe humaine said:
wow!

do you treat all new fish like this?

jeff
Hi societe humaine,

It would really be helpful for you to take a breath and then see the forum guidelines. Once you understand clearly what is expected here from all members, perhaps you'll understand over time why things are done the way they are. This forum is very different from most. This isn't a coincidence. It's because everyone works to maintain a consistent level of consideration for others. You may well come to see that in time.
 
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