Anomalous Shadows

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Attached are three photographs of the sky that contain what appear to be shadows above a stable thin cloud layer.
 

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Oh wow, that does look funky, where was the sun in the sky at the time?

If these are shadows, they're kind of elongated which would indicate a sunrise or sunset positioning of the sun, yet.. it looks very brights, i.e. not red enough for it to be the case. Though I could be completely wrong.
 
Wandering Star said:
They are simply whimsical voids in the cloud box. It is not a shadow, it is the blue of the sky.

If you enlarge the image you can see it perfectly.
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That has been taking into consideration. However, I would suggest you take a closer look and you will be able to see the stratified cloud layer. It is clearly a shadow.
 
Alejo said:
Oh wow, that does look funky, where was the sun in the sky at the time?

If these are shadows, they're kind of elongated which would indicate a sunrise or sunset positioning of the sun, yet.. it looks very brights, i.e. not red enough for it to be the case. Though I could be completely wrong.
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The sun was situated in relation to the "base" of one of the shadows that seems to have a triangular shape to it. Also, I have considered the shadows of towering cumulus clouds some distance of. But it would not make the shadow as define as the ones seen in the pictures, they would also have an "arm" as warm air rises. That being said, it would not make much sense. In addition, the type of clouds that are present are an indication of stable air.
 
Whether they are holes or shadows is debatable, what it see is an effect of something else not here but through to here to be seen like this in 3D. To me the cause of these is an object in another density, but that is just my interpretation.

As for if it is a hole or shadow, I see higher clouds when I see these images up large. It is distorted as if I was looking at a cloaked ship (Like the star trek show showed).

I’ve seen these hanging holes in clouds and also clouds on an open sky that hang in a single spot in the middle of a cross wind that are not an updraft effect (I suspect these are those who use water for fuel, just my opinion). Haiku …
 
Haiku said:
Whether they are holes or shadows is debatable, what it see is an effect of something else not here but through to here to be seen like this in 3D. To me the cause of these is an object in another density, but that is just my interpretation.

As for if it is a hole or shadow, I see higher clouds when I see these images up large. It is distorted as if I was looking at a cloaked ship (Like the star trek show showed).

I’ve seen these hanging holes in clouds and also clouds on an open sky that hang in a single spot in the middle of a cross wind that are not an updraft effect (I suspect these are those who use water for fuel, just my opinion). Haiku …
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I think it is indeed feasible for a cloaked object to cast a shadow 👍💯
 
Wandering Star said:
They are simply whimsical voids in the cloud box. It is not a shadow, it is the blue of the sky.

If you enlarge the image you can see it perfectly.
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|I AM| said:
That has been taking into consideration. However, I would suggest you take a closer look and you will be able to see the stratified cloud layer. It is clearly a shadow.
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That is also how it looks to me: It is the blue of the sky you can see behind portions of clouds that are thinner. If you zoom in that looks quite obvious.

And if you really want to entertain the idea that what you see are shadows (although I see little reason to so) I guess it would be perfectly possible for two single higher clouds to be the source of the “shadows“.
 
Cosmos said:
That is also how it looks to me: It is the blue of the sky you can see behind portions of clouds that are thinner. If you zoom in that looks quite obvious.

And if you really want to entertain the idea that what you see are shadows (although I see little reason to so) I guess it would be perfectly possible for two single higher clouds to be the source of the “shadows“.
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All good points. With that being said, can you please explain to me what would be the catalyst to produce these "two single higher clouds" in a layer of stable air at a higher altitude ?
 
Those are hole punch clouds, also known as fallstreak holes. They're large gaps, usually circular or elliptical, that can appear in cirrocumulus or altocumulus clouds. The holes are caused by supercooled water in the clouds suddenly evaporating or freezing, and may be triggered by passing aircraft. Such clouds are not unique to any one geographic area and have been photographed from many places.
 
Joe said:
Those are hole punch clouds, also known as fallstreak holes. They're large gaps, usually circular or elliptical, that can appear in cirrocumulus or altocumulus clouds. The holes are caused by supercooled water in the clouds suddenly evaporating or freezing, and may be triggered by passing aircraft. Such clouds are not unique to any one geographic area and have been photographed from many places.
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A good observation indeed. I do agree these can be cause by the wake of an aircraft which would explain why there are two "fallstreak holes" due to patterns of air traffic. On that note, I would like for you to focus your attention on the areas where the apparent hole is. In the explanation from Wikipedia that you have chosen to cite (without giving any credit to it's source), I might add that there are faint breaks (vains) that continue and align with those of the surrounding more pronounced layer of the cloud. If there was a wake streak it would disturb the surrounding layer of clouds and thus displace or even eliminate the continuous "vain" that sits between the clouds. Keeping that in mind, would a shadow cast on the layer of cloud from above not create the illusion of color similar to that of the surrounding blue sky ?
 
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