Christopher Langan's Cognitive Theoretic Model of the Universe

[whitecoast]

I don't know, is Langan really that smart? He's got this ethnic European superiority thing going on that seems pretty pompous, even racist. Maybe it's a reaction against anti-white sentiment in America, sure, but this just seems over the top to me, emotional thinking run amok.

There’s definitely a lot of projections coming from Langan here. Yes, Europeans do receive a lot of unjustified criticism, but Langan is doing this with the Chinese and Africans in the above also, irrespective of any slivers of fact. Odds are people receptive to his true and good ideas might be turned off by this poor behaviour, so in a way he’s arguing against himself and the potential good he may bring to others.

That man needs to find better people to follow and conversations to engage in on X. If you wouldn’t say something like that to someone sitting across from you, you probably shouldn’t be saying it across a keyboard either.

It reminds of the distinction between gurus and mentors, and that we should never put people on pedestals.

 

[psychegram]

I don't know, is Langan really that smart? He's got this ethnic European superiority thing going on that seems pretty pompous, even racist. Maybe it's a reaction against anti-white sentiment in America, sure, but this just seems over the top to me, emotional thinking run amok.

Oh no. Not racism. Langan is cancelled!

There’s definitely a lot of projections coming from Langan here. Yes, Europeans do receive a lot of unjustified criticism, but Langan is doing this with the Chinese and Africans in the above also, irrespective of any slivers of fact. Odds are people receptive to his true and good ideas might be turned off by this poor behaviour, so in a way he’s arguing against himself and the potential good he may bring to others.

That man needs to find better people to follow and conversations to engage in on X. If you wouldn’t say something like that to someone sitting across from you, you probably shouldn’t be saying it across a keyboard either.

It reminds of the distinction between gurus and mentors, and that we should never put people on pedestals.

Langan was punching back at an anti-white Twitter account that was gloating about nature healing by reducing the white population. But of course, white men aren't allowed to dish it out, right? They're expected to take the abuse, indefinitely, because racism bad (but only white people are held to this standard, one somehow never finds Indians or Chinese clutching their pearls about other Indians or Chinese being racist).

 

[Mark7]

Oh no. Not racism. Langan is cancelled!

Langan was punching back at an anti-white Twitter account that was gloating about nature healing by reducing the white population. But of course, white men aren't allowed to dish it out, right? They're expected to take the abuse, indefinitely, because racism bad (but only white people are held to this standard, one somehow never finds Indians or Chinese clutching their pearls about other Indians or Chinese being racist).

Well, I can't help but wonder what all these leftists who are so down on the 'Patriarchy' would do if they somehow discover that Jesus was Julius Ceasar. For example, if some liberal university announced it, (it's a thought experiment). Weeping and wailing and gnashing of teeth?

I have noticed that Indians, Chinese, and other Eastern peoples tend to do things or not based on their culture perhaps more so than Westerners.

 

[Cosmos]

I just found this recent interview with Langan and only now realized that it is the same guy this thread is about. Apparently, at least IQ wise, he is more or less the smartest man alive and in recorded history (with an IQ between about 190 and 210):

 

[Jeremy]

Are we assuming that the "they" who wants to create "soul smashing" are 4D STS or similar? If so, what do they achieve for themselves through this "soul smashing"? And then there's the question of whether or not this is part of a "natural" cycle and if there is, from a big picture pov, a need for certain souls to be "smashed" to contribute to the primal matter of the 'redo'.

Everyone wants to play in the sandbox but no one wants to be the sand.

 

[A Jay]

I just found this recent interview with Langan and only now realized that it is the same guy this thread is about. Apparently, at least IQ wise, he is more or less the smartest man alive and in recorded history (with an IQ between about 190 and 210):

It's actually from a couple of years ago. Chris had it as an exclusive for his substack subscribers.

The Daily Wire flew Langan and his wife out to wherever this studio was, put them up in a hotel for a couple of days to do it, said it was the first of some bigger thing they wanted to do, then scrapped the whole thing and the video was never released.

If I remember right Chris was quite upset over the whole thing, in particular them not releasing the video. It was very strange. But then, I don't know how often that kind of thing happens in media circles.

 

[iamthatis]

It's actually from a couple of years ago. Chris had it as an exclusive for his substack subscribers.

The Daily Wire flew Langan and his wife out to wherever this studio was, put them up in a hotel for a couple of days to do it, said it was the first of some bigger thing they wanted to do, then scrapped the whole thing and the video was never released.

If I remember right Chris was quite upset over the whole thing, in particular them not releasing the video. It was very strange. But then, I don't know how often that kind of thing happens in media circles.

Could be they found out about his views re: the Zio-bankers.

 

[Cosmos]

It's actually from a couple of years ago. Chris had it as an exclusive for his substack subscribers.

The Daily Wire flew Langan and his wife out to wherever this studio was, put them up in a hotel for a couple of days to do it, said it was the first of some bigger thing they wanted to do, then scrapped the whole thing and the video was never released.

If I remember right Chris was quite upset over the whole thing, in particular them not releasing the video. It was very strange. But then, I don't know how often that kind of thing happens in media circles.

That’s interesting, I didn’t know that.

Could be they found out about his views re: the Zio-bankers.

Yeah, I watched a number of portions of it and my strong guess is that some of the things he said weren’t deemed shareable by the Daily Wire.

Noticed, unsurprisingly, that the highest recorded IQ in the world doesn’t prevent you from drawing wrong conclusions. But over all what I saw so far is quite interesting (also his background in the real middle class world) and he comes to a number of conclusions and ideas that seem to go more or less in the right direction. The interviewer lost me as soon as he sort of ridiculed the paranormal and/or UFO‘s while Langan takes this quite serious as possibility. What I also found interesting is that Langan very early on saw that there is quite more to Trump then what was officially reporting in the mainstream about him. In his opinion Trumps IQ is probably around the average college professor which wouldn’t surprise me.

 

[A Jay]

That’s interesting, I didn’t know that.

Found this post about the situation regarding the interview, which took place in April 30 of 2022, in the deep recesses of my emails.

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He writes:

It follows that the true rationale is thus more likely to have gone something like this:

“The Judeo-Christian Right already has a high-profile power structure, and Chris Langan isn't in it. We’re already Big Shots on a Mission from God, so why do we need Chris Langan? Who does this joker think he is, anyway?”

They started this interview process with Chris before the Daily Wire deal with Jordan Peterson was done, so he thinks that once they had Peterson, already a well-established intellectual they knew they could control, they no longer needed HIQ Chris and kicked him to the curb.

 

[Natus Videre]

(L) Hmm. It's supposed to be an abstract metaphysical theory of everything that attempts to unify physics, mathematics, philosophy, and theology.

He proposes that reality is a self-simulating, self-configuring system where mind and universe are fundamentally identical and interconnected. Reality is like a self-processing language that designs and perceives itself. In short, the universe is cognitive at its foundation, self-contained, there's no external creator, unexplained, brute fact, and evolves through goal-directed, that is, tele-processes that resolve paradoxes in physics, logic, and philosophy while proving concepts like God as the global self-aware structure of reality. Now, the thing is, you know, I like Chris Langan, and I... you know, whatever. Is his model correct?

A: No

Q: (L) Is it close?

A: No

My first impression of Langan's model is that it was a logical framework that attempted to address the numerous paradoxes that stumped scientists. By providing a "meta-theory," Langan embedded the seemingly restrictive, mainstream logical foundations into a wider framework. However, I always wondered why Langan didn't go further, i.e. why he didn't try to "fill in the details" of his theory. This gave me an impression that his theory was "hollow" because it allowed other theories (like general relativity, which had many wrong assumptions) to be interpreted within his framework. It's great to have a "logical compass," but in the end, the fine details will determine whether the whole theory has any basis.

When I asked myself the question "how can we derive densities, and even prove that there exactly 7 of them, using Langan's model?", I couldn't find a starting point. I think starting from the ground up (say, combinatorics, algebra) and constantly questioning the overall picture as new details emerge may be a more fruitful approach.

So if Langan's theory is not even close to describing reality, does that mean that reality is NOT a language?

The C's have repeated that mathematics is the one and only true universal language.

Q: (L) How did the Sumerians produce their civilization so suddenly and completely, seemingly out of nowhere?
A: Study mathematics for all possible unanswered pieces of the puzzle!!! Interpolate and use appropriate computer program, learning now increases your power tenfold, when you use some initiative, rather than asking us for all the answers directly!!!

Q: (L) Okay, crop circles are a language, so to speak. Are they in some way related to mathematics?
A: Mathematics is the one and only true universal language.

Q: Now, I want to know exactly how you got this number 63, how you computed it, why is it 63 and not 62 or 64?
A: The divination process always breaks down to mathematical processes, as this is the only true universal language.

Q: (L) Well, how subtle can it be? I mean, 'hello folks, you know the words munch, crunch, yum yum???'
A: It is not all that way, and you know it! Most are not eaten, just manipulated. Knowledge protects in the most amazing ways. Mathematics are "taught' in your realm in such a way that only a select few will learn. And mathematics is the language of all creation. For example, advanced math studies, such as algebra, provide the keys to unlocking the doors between the matter and antimatter universes. Suggest those present who still need to, learn algebra.

Q: Well, we have read and thought and gone over the sessions, and discussed it and have no satisfactory conclusion. Stapp says that the wave function represents our knowledge of the system and that the reduced wave packets are more precise knowledge after measure. The question is: is there more than OUR knowledge and which is beyond...

A: The question is: Is knowledge physical? Can it be physicalized? Is not physics the study of that which is physical?

Q: Alright, can knowledge be physicalized?
A: No.

Q: (A) Can knowledge be converted to mathematics?
A: Yes. As we have indicated, mathematics serves as a bridge between that which is physical and that which is not.

Q: So, Stapp quotes Heisenberg saying: the transparent clarity of a mathematics that represents no longer the behavior of particles but rather our knowledge of this behavior." Can that be a correct statement in reference to Quantum Physics?
A: But there are no "units" of knowledge.

Q: (Ark) What kind of mathematics is needed to describe consciousness?
A: Algebra.

If mathematics, the only true universal language, is a bridge between two manifestations, two faces of reality, then Langan's model, which attempts to explain reality by treating it as a language, is built on the wrong foundation.