Massive 'drone swarm' in and around New Jersey: UFO flap, govt tech, or mass hysteria?

[Rain]

It is interesting that the US government wants to shut down Tik-Tok (on Jaunary 19th 2025.), maybe so that people couldn't share what they saw in real-time? For example things like this:

A drone shot down by "the other thing" (Phoenix, December 14)

https://www.tiktok.com/video/7448515679294180651

Also, this is an interesting theory, that the orbs are plasmoids.
As documented by NASA space shuttle films, and detailed in this report, self-illuminating, pulsating, plasma-like UAP/UFO (“plasmoids”), have multiple shapes and sizes, are attracted to electromagnetic activity, and travel at different velocities from different directions, making 90 to 180 degree turns, as well as colliding, intersecting and piercing other plasma; and have been filmed by U.S. Navy personnel... The Plasmoids appear to purposefully interact and engage in complex behaviors, and it is suspected they are sentient and represent a fourth domain of life.
https://www.researchgate.net/publication/383034675_Unidentified_Anomalous_Phenomena_Extraterrestrial_Life_Plasmoids_Shape_Shifters_Replicons_Thunderstorms_Lightning_Hallucinations_Aircraft_Disasters_Ocean_Sightings

https://www.tiktok.com/video/7415341215236902186

Could it be that the "good aliens" are trying to show themselves slowly and those are the shapeshifting orbs, and the drones are from US government which is trying to hide the fact and make the situation confusing and to their advantage later (blame some other country etc.)?

 

[Joe]

I think that Joe is suffering from "flock of geese" syndrome.

Not really, I'm just not inclined to jump to pre-formed confirmation bias conclusions like so many are. I don't see anything wrong with that, in fact, it's a better approach for various reasons I already outlined.

OK, but these sightings started before November 25th.

They started around the time, maybe a week earlier, but really kicked off from then until now.

These drones are not falling down, but hovering.

Why would you think I was suggesting that burning up satellites are the answer? I posted that because some people have actually posted the video of the starlink satellites falling in 2022 and portrayed them as "drones from NJ".

And what was the response to it? Letting the drones do whatever they want? That's not how you defend your country.

The suggestion is that it may, in part, be a simulation of a drone attack, i.e. a drone response to invading drones, SIMULATED.

 

[Musicinventor]

An interesting perspective on the situation…

 

[Cosmos]

As Joe said today on the radio show, at the very least, given how advanced even commercial drones can be/behave nowadays, it makes differentiating them from the real UFO/Alien phenomena much more difficult in many cases including in hindsight.

 

[Joe]

It seems it may be a test of some drone system etc - It's ok. What doesn't fit in this explanation is the areas where they do it and lack of clear public statement . I'm guessing they have multiple goals - purely technical test - which is perfect excuse, if they are pressed enough to provide explanation, then most important (IMHO) probing for public reaction, panic response, fear generation etc. If this is the case, what would be best possible reaction from the public to such event? How *should* we react to all this?

I think there is definitely multiple agendas being fulfilled here. That is often the case with such operations.

 

[seeker2seer]

That is quit a small area for the test area, 2 nautical miles radius. Does not explain them flying in from the ocean and seen some kilometer from the cost but it may explain and justify a reaction from our overseers.

If they were and are indeed flying drone base on new drone technologies with advance capacities, it may have prompted a reaction from 4th density observer and not only sts but sto as well. As any good farmer would investigate what is exciting his chicken coop and what we are witnessing may have multiple level of technology which would explain the varieties of ``drone`` witnessed and filmed so far. From witnessed some are solid, some other as pictured are more probe like, spherical and semi transparent and others without apparent material structure. It sure is difficult to make one is mind but closing any possibility at the moment seems to me premature. We know that the MIC have technology way ahead of what is admitted but any such display will in my book bring a reaction from our overlord as I think was the case in other area of the globe as in southern Manitoba in the seventies. It all started with conventional saucer shaped disc and after some time, probe of spherical shape and even a big triangular ship were seen.

I think so far that it is too early to jump to conclusion and eliminate any possibilities as whose technology is behind this flap. I see a variety of ‘’drone’’ of many shape and characteristic that do not permit me so far to eliminate any possibility.

Who knows, it may be Santa testing a new distributing system before Christmas.

I also agree with that being a small testing area. Instead, it is most likely a notice for other aircraft or drone operators to avoid the airspace over the arsenal as defensive measures will be taken in response to the unidentified aerial vehicles/drones first reported over the arsenal on November 13th per their own statement to a local New Jersey newspaper.
They're not our drones, says Picatinny Arsenal. But Morris base confirms sightings

 

[Temperance]

FWIW, anyone who thinks they're seeing something, download an app called flight radar for your phone. There's also other apps with other names that do the same thing. You can use the free version. It will show you all the registered aircraft in the area, so you can at least rule out airplanes. Do note that military craft may not show up on it, but it can help us start distinguishing what's a plane and what's not, since relative position may sometimes make us think something is hovering, moving weird, etc.

 

[Metrist]

New Jersey has the most military installations of any state. One of them has to do with long range navigation. The only branch of service not in New Jersey is the Marines.
So, if you have all these installations, it is ideal to do research there.

Being such a military dependent state, the idea of automated warfare is a frightening prospect. And so along with normal secrecy, discretion is also a consideration as this represents automated warfare and a end to traditional military expenditures - effecting the economies surrounding military installations. So they spin this into a mystery to hide the fact that they want to do away with outdated tech, and defense costs, and how it affects the state. Maybe?

 

[Gawan]

I'm not entirely sure if you can start a regular drone in a no-fly-zone (airports/military bases). As far I'm aware of, DJI (one main producer of drones) doesn't even let you start your drone in a no-fly-zone. Also, at airports and military bases they should easily detect drones.

The restrictions can be tough, you can lose your drone, license and some hefty fines, depending on in which country you fly and which drone you fly. So I'm not sure if these are amateurs. Of course, you can risk it and many people do it. But I'm not sure if you would do it with a several thousand € drone.

What is at least strange in some cases, that some drones still have their lights on. I guess there are UFOs, drones and crazy free riders.

At least in Germany, there were also two reports of drone sightings at the US-military air base Ramstein and the chem-giant BASF. But no videos or footage.

 

[Mark7]

An interesting perspective on the situation…

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[tschai]

the idea of automated warfare is a frightening prospect.

This makes a lot of sense. It doesn’t take a huge leap of imagination to realize that wars are moving towards being largely automated, and drones are a significant part of that process- not just the type we are seeing, but fighter craft (UAVs) submarines and even ships will all be or are already automated, soon fully autonomous humanoid robots will take to the battlefield if things are allowed to progress to that point. How long before they turn on us and we become the enemy? Will 4D STS have any say in this, or maybe this is part of the plan. In truth, we can only speculate as to what “they” are up to, and the actual answer is probably more frightening and bizarre than we can imagine. Eyes and mind open, all of us here working together to put the pieces together.

 

[Wandering Star]

Well, well. An hour ago I saw a drone over my insignificant and unimportant city in the north of Spain.

A light with the intensity of more or less twice that of Venus, completely motionless in the sky at about one or two hundred meters high.

A white light that turns on and off slowly and when the white light was off it had a faint green luminosity.

I was driving and I know that the dron was stop in the sky because I almost stopped the car, but the traffic forced me to turn and I didn't see it anymore.

How strange!

 

[Joe]

Late 2023. No explanation ever given, so maybe we shouldn't expect one this time either?

MSN

Mystery Drones Swarmed a U.S. Military Base for 17 Days. The Pentagon Is Stumped.​

.S. Air Force Gen. Mark Kelly wasn’t sure what to make of reports that a suspicious fleet of unidentified aircraft had been flying over Langley Air Force Base on Virginia’s shoreline.

Kelly, a decorated senior commander at the base, got on a squadron rooftop to see for himself. He joined a handful of other officers responsible for a clutch of the nation’s most advanced jet fighters, including F-22 Raptors.

For several nights, military personnel had reported a mysterious breach of restricted airspace over a stretch of land that has one of the largest concentrations of national-security facilities in the U.S. The show usually starts 45 minutes to an hour after sunset, another senior leader told Kelly.

The first drone arrived shortly. Kelly, a career fighter pilot, estimated it was roughly 20 feet long and flying at more than 100 miles an hour, at an altitude of roughly 3,000 to 4,000 feet. Other drones followed, one by one, sounding in the distance like a parade of lawn mowers.

The drones headed south, across Chesapeake Bay, toward Norfolk, Va., and over an area that includes the home base for the Navy’s SEAL Team Six and Naval Station Norfolk, the world’s largest naval port.

Officials didn’t know if the drone fleet, which numbered as many as a dozen or more over the following nights, belonged to clever hobbyists or hostile forces. Some suspected that Russia or China deployed them to test the response of American forces.

Federal law prohibits the military from shooting down drones near military bases in the U.S. unless they pose an imminent threat. Aerial snooping doesn’t qualify, though some lawmakers hope to give the military greater leeway.

 

[Joan]

With all the technology flying around in the outer space of our world, to some extent, but more importantly the inner space of our world, makes me wonder if this technology available to the public, at a so called reasonable cost, is to muddy the waters of what is really happening within our skies. And of course always the click bait operators, money is first and foremost at the top of their minds.

All it does is muddy the real waters, of other realities, with drone technologies, using unknown forces of nature creating a false reality.

 

[loreta]

It is almost impossible that the Pentagon doesn't know what is happening. I don't believe them. This reminds me when Orson Welles, the director, made a radio show about the invasion of extraterrestrial and the war that this caused, reading live the novel “The war of the worlds”. Listeners of the program believed it was true. Maybe it was a sort of experience that Welles did, paid by the Pentagon! Social engineering... To study how people react. To make people feel insecure. To make feel people alone, lost, scared, because even the Pentagon do not know what is happening. To manipulate the attention of people while elsewhere things are happening, Syria, Gaza, economic disaster that is coming, Faulci, etc.