Massive 'drone swarm' in and around New Jersey: UFO flap, govt tech, or mass hysteria?

I think that if there is a UFO flap, there should be a noticeable increase in paranormal phenomena in the affected regions. I don't know if such an increase has been noticed or not. In the absence of such, there is no reason to exclude the 3d drones hypothesis. As to why at this bizarre time of history, where decades happen within weeks, there might be several reasons/opportunities/factions at play. There could be a 4D participation also, but with the available information so far, it could be minimal in terms of UFOs in the sky but perhaps not negligible in terms of controlled "human" subjects. OSIT
 
Mark7 said:
I worked on IR surveillance tech for the army in the early 1980's. We were using a cryogenic 'cold finger' to detect the IR images even back then, operators could see cow flatulence hovering around cows at night from high up :). Military IR/night vision now must be really, really good.

My little DJI drone gets really hot after just a short flight due to the high current needed for drone flight. Any kind of mechanical rotating electric or mechanical motor is going to produce a ton of heat. Electric, fossil fuel, synthetic fuel, it doesn't matter. So if they can completely hide a drone with any, even semi-conventional propulsion today... I would say that's some impressive IR shielding. Or they are using some very strange propulsion...
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What about plasma propelled drones? Do they generate a lot of heat?
 
Zerohedge reports on another possible reason for the flap - FAA Reauthorization Act of 2018 is said to expire on Dec 20th. The claim is that this new flap is a gov psyop designed to intimidate people justify pushing a new draconian bill through Congress.

NJ Drone 'Invasion' Just In Time For Congress To Reauthorize Orwellian Law | ZeroHedge

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However, I googled it, and a new FAA Reauthorization Act was signed in mid May 2024, so the zerohedge claim is more conspiracy noise.
 
And just in time, a solution! Think of it as a vaccine for drone scares.

What system will they deploy? who knows.. what it will do? who knows.. but it will definitely take care of the "invasion" of the drones.

Feds to deploy ‘state-of-the-art’ detection system to NY as drone swarms have experts baffled​

New York Sen. Chuck Schumer on Sunday called for the federal government to deploy recently declassified radar technology to finally identify the mysterious swarms of drones alarming the tri-state region.

The Senate Democratic leader addressed mounting frustration at the response soon after Gov. Kathy Hochul announced that the feds were finally “deploying a state-of-the-art drone detection system” to New York.

Hochul did not elaborate on exactly what that system was, nor how or where it would be used, but stressed that the area still needs more help to address the baffling sightings.
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Lilou said:
What about plasma propelled drones? Do they generate a lot of heat?
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Plasma from where? What kind of plasma? No free lunch in this universe. It takes quite a bit of energy to hold and maintain an object in mid-air, planes have the advantage of lift and glide through aerodynamics, but slow-moving drones not so much. With drones, it's largely the brute force of the energy of the propulsion system. I guess I am saying that for there to be no heat signature, some really advanced tech up to hyperdimensional tech is probably used either in IR shielding, or the propulsion system has no heat signature, that does not compute for me, so something like that could be 4th density tech.
 
Gawan said:
I'm not entirely sure if you can start a regular drone in a no-fly-zone (airports/military bases). As far I'm aware of, DJI (one main producer of drones) doesn't even let you start your drone in a no-fly-zone. Also, at airports and military bases they should easily detect drones.
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That only applies to consumer-grade drones. There are many DIY plans to building a drone including the hard- and software for running, stabilizing and navigating these drones. And on top of that there are patches available online to disarm the restrictions by the drone manufacturers (like DJI).
 
If you can’t incite violence then you have to excite it in another way, fear tactics. If the last notation of a quorum meeting was to calm efforts, which we did see, then this is another way to achieve their wants. I believe that 10% of these sightings are real, the PTB are changing program and using this again to achieve this want.

The real ones are at a place of importance. Pay attention to what is going on around there, there may be elements of other worldly oddities going on here.

Like the car alarms, I’ve seen this when an earthquake shook. What if they were scanning with waves of something that replicated the energy of an earthquake. Now we use earthquakes to see inside the planet, they might be using the same process to see what they are up to here, just a thought.

Now if they are at a place of importance and doing some kind of examination like this, I would suspect that this was not STS involvement, they would most likely know about this already.

To me, the PTB is inciting fear, say it’s whoever or whatever just to drive the same conclusion that they are driving for, it’s still the plan … just plan ’B’, I would bet it wasn’t their preferred one. It’s still a cover up for the real ones.

Don’t look behind the curtain looking for Oz he’s not there. Haiku …
 
Mark7 said:
Plasma from where? What kind of plasma? No free lunch in this universe. It takes quite a bit of energy to hold and maintain an object in mid-air, planes have the advantage of lift and glide through aerodynamics, but slow-moving drones not so much. With drones, it's largely the brute force of the energy of the propulsion system. I guess I am saying that for there to be no heat signature, some really advanced tech up to hyperdimensional tech is probably used either in IR shielding, or the propulsion system has no heat signature, that does not compute for me, so something like that could be 4th density tech.
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Right, so even if you go with 'US Secret/Private Govt Tech Test', you still end up with questions about how they can power and maneuver such large 'drones' - silently (in at least some instances), and slowly - within the inherent limits of known 3D tech... questions that can probably only be answered by bringing in 'back-engineered' 4D tech, and so with this scenario you still take a 'leap of faith' into 'alien' territory!
 
Our theory about the NJ 'drone swarm' - in part or in total - being a test of US govt tech is now being suggested in MSM:

NJ drone sightings could be a 'classified exercise': former CIA officer​

December 15, 2024

Former CIA Operations officer Laura Ballman says the mysterious drone sightings are 'extremely unsettling' as the public seeks answers on 'Fox News Live.'

Drones sightings across New Jersey have unsettled residents for weeks with no official explanations being offered. Ballman argued that circumstances around the drone sightings suggest it may be a U.S. operation.

"Deducing the statements from [National Security spokesman] John Kirby that these drones are not operating illegally, coupled with several op-eds that have been out there in the last 24 hours about the need to look at our detection systems, makes me think perhaps this is actually a classified exercise to test either evasion technology or detection technology in urban areas," Ballman said.

Ballman went on to say she would be "shocked" if the drones were related to the CIA, saying it is "not their mandate to operate in the United States." She added that she is "troubled" by why the U.S. government has not been forthcoming with information regarding the drones.

U.S. national security officials sought to dispel concerns about the mysterious drones flying over the Northeast in a recent call with reporters, one going as far as describing nationwide uneasiness as "a slight overreaction."

The call, attended by Fox News Digital Saturday, was hosted by senior Biden administration officials, including representatives from the FBI, the Federal Aviation Administration (FAA), the National Security Council (NSC), the Department of Homeland Security (DHS) and the Department of Defense (DOD).

The senior officials remained tight-lipped about the origins of the drones, which are still being investigated. The mysterious aircraft were first spotted flying above northern New Jersey in mid-November and have been repeatedly seen by thousands of residents over the past few weeks.

During the call with reporters, an FBI official said his agency has received 5,000 tips since the first mysterious drone was seen flying above the Garden State in November. Of those 5,000 tips, fewer than 100 warranted further investigation, the official said.

The FBI official added that investigators have found no evidence of large-scale unmanned drone activity despite the recent uptick in drone activity in recent weeks.

"We're doing our best to find the origin of that specific … those drone activities," the official said. "But I think there has been a slight overreaction."

Echoing comments from the FBI representative, a DHS official noted that, while his agency is not dismissing all tips about the drones as non-credible, "the amount of actual drone activity is likely less than what's being reported."
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Note also that the official federal stance on these is still "nothing to see here folks!"
 
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Niall said:
Right, so even if you go with 'US Secret/Private Govt Tech Test', you still end up with questions about how they can power and maneuver such large 'drones' - silently (in at least some instances), and slowly - within the inherent limits of known 3D tech... questions that can probably only be answered by bringing in 'back-engineered' 4D tech, and so with this scenario you still take a 'leap of faith' into 'alien' territory!
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Indeed. And what about the fact that some of the objects don't look like drones, but look more like ufo, albeit not of the "classic" ufo "design", but there are sightings exactly like this in the past too. What to do with those and how to fit them into the "only secret gov test"?

Maybe the "aliens" got curious and came to watch the party. If so, then it is already a mixed phenomena. And maybe the opposite is true. The ufo flap happened, and the secret gov joined it. Either way it's a joined party. :-)

Even with the alien hybrid or 'back-engineered' 4D tech, as you said, it is still a sort of "mixed phenomena" stuff, because the byproduct could be the thinning of the veil that allows to see things that weren't visible before. There are all kind of possibilities.
 
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SOTTREADER said:
To me they look like tech that could be made by humans. The only weird thing about them is all the attention doesn't seem to be altering the behaviour of whoever is controlling them. The reaction from the government is also weird - why deny their existence if people are seeing them to the extent that they are?
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I am still in the camp that these drones are human made - they are certainly not being sent here from 4D. They look quite "physical" to me.

Anyways, besides that, Joe's revelations and links made me think of something.

What is the governments ability to "back-fill" explanations to extraordinary events? It always strikes me as curious that some of these events are "pre-announced" but we never know about it until after the fact when people through their investigations find x,y,z evidence which do provide a plausible explanation? But we never know about the events beforehand and the ones that people think they have an inside line on don't actually come to pass 🤷

In my mind, the ability to "back-fill" the internet to explain any current event causing public hysteria would be quite a tool to have in your arsenal if you're the government. 🤪

And the government "black budget" can also act as a useful tool to explain pretty much anything I think. All that money has to be producing things that actually look alien, right? 🤫 Yet they've been out-chessed and out-oreshniked by Russia 😭😭. Why can't the black budget deliver a decisive victory in Ukraine 🤷
 
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