Charlie Kirk is dead... A sad day in history

[Bluegazer]

It's very good for people to become aware of the reality of spiritual evil (STS). What is not so good is for them to flee mindlessly back into organized religion. It's a trap.

Somehow people perceive that going back to the way things were before is falling into the trap. They are not willing to make the same mistakes.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1969848949323321565

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[adam7117]

It's very good for people to become aware of the reality of spiritual evil (STS). What is not so good is for them to flee mindlessly back into organized religion. It's a trap.

I've got several fundies (fundamentalist Christians) in my family and the entire thing was basically a "come to Jesus" rally. The highlight was Erika Kirk saying she forgave the young man who did it.

Another highlight was this although I am unsure about the meaning of the hand gesture. Perhaps it's nothing important. Is it?

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[Wandering Star]

Another highlight was this although I am unsure about the meaning of the hand gesture. Perhaps it's nothing important. Is it?

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It's probably a coincidence, after all everyone does it at rock concerts.

Sarcasm just in case anyone doesn't understand.

Has anyone ever made that gesture without consciously knowing that they are doing it?

I don't believe it.

 

[Beau]

Jones said pretty much the same thing, in a bit more detail, on his show (bullet entered neck at slight angle, deflected by spine toward heart/ribs, where it fragmented, one of which was found in the shoulder.):

Here's a guy who shows a video demonstrating what a 30.06 round does to a bone that is significantly denser than vertebrae

https://twitter.com/x/status/1969953618875887783

 

[Wandering Star]

Another highlight was this although I am unsure about the meaning of the hand gesture. Perhaps it's nothing important. Is it?

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The very word "secret" is repugnant in a free and open society; and we are, as a people, inherently and historically opposed to secret societies, secret oaths, and secret procedures.

We decided long ago that the dangers of excessive and unjustified concealment of pertinent facts far outweighed the dangers cited to justify it. Even today, there is little value in opposing the threat of a closed society by imitating its arbitrary restrictions. Even today, there is little value in ensuring the survival of our nation if our traditions do not survive with it.

And there is a grave danger that those eager to expand its meaning to the very limits of censorship and official cover-up will take advantage of the announced need for greater security. This I do not intend to allow to the extent within my control.

(...)

Because throughout the world we oppose a monolithic and ruthless conspiracy that relies primarily on covert means to expand its sphere of influence: infiltration rather than invasion, subversion rather than elections, intimidation rather than free choice, guerrillas by night rather than armies by day. It is a system that has enlisted vast human and material resources in the construction of a highly efficient and tightly knit machine combining military, diplomatic, intelligence, economic, scientific, and political operations.

Its preparations are hidden, unpublicized. Its errors are buried, untitled. Its dissenters are silenced, unlauded. No expenditure is questioned, no rumor is printed, no secret is revealed.

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The President and the Press: Address before the American Newspaper Publishers Association, April 27, 1961.

John Fitzgerald Kennedy

 

[Mrs. Peel]

It's probably a coincidence, after all everyone does it at rock concerts.

It basically means "rock on" and perhaps she was using it to indicate "moving forward" with the movement?

 

[Wandering Star]

It basically means "rock on" and perhaps she was using it to indicate "moving forward" with the movement?

Perhaps, yes.

 

[Seato]

I thought the memorial was nice and noted down some of the comments from the speakers that caught my attention. The time stamps for the below comments are for the Washington Post version of the broadcast on YouTube.

Tucker Carlson (2:39:00)

“Any attempt to extinguish the light causes it to burn brighter. Every single time.”

Robert F. Kennedy Junior (3:10:00)

“Charlie’s, Charlie’s other passion was free speech. He understood that the free flow of information was the soil, the water, the sunlight for democracy. He understood democracy’s great advantage was that our policies were formed by ideas that had triumphed in a marketplace of debate and conversation. He thought that conversation was the only way to heal our country. And this was important, particularly important during a technological age when we are all hooked into social rhythms that social algorithms that are hacked into the reptilian cores of our brain and amplify our impulses for tribalism and for division.

He thought that the only way to overcome that impulse was with spiritual fire and developing community. And the only way to develop community was through conversation. And so, he always gave the biggest microphone to the people who were most passionately aligned against him because he believed that we need to talk to each other and that we needed to be able to say what we mean without saying it mean.”

Erika Kirk offering forgiveness for the assassin (4:16:00).

“I forgive him because it was what Christ did and is what Charlie would do. The answer to hate is not hate. The answer we know from the gospel is love and always love. Love for our enemies and love for those who persecute us.”

Trump during his speech mentioned making some announcement the next day on the cause of Autism (4:39:00). I don’t know how close it will get to the full truth but hopefully it will help open the door for honest conversation on this matter.

I found the event mostly positive. I was glad that many of the speakers emphasized the importance of free speech and hope that the administration continues to uphold it and not be led astray.
I hope with this spiritual revival even if people may be misdirected that it will see increasing amounts of people praying for the world. The more people choose to openly call for help the more able the universe is to answer.

 

[hiker]

Would be interesting to see the raw footage, what is to you a "slower moving slug? The angle coincides, though.

Well, I was thinking that it might have been a projectile moving slower than a standard bullet, shot by a ”special gun” so that it could be captured with the shutter speeds of normal video footage.

About the said gun, Brewer’s and Bluegazer’s posts were intriguing:

Or it's gas powered, an air gun with a silencer, very quiet and the desk in front would help dampen the sound, especially if fired from a hole underground. No bang, no flash, no cordite smell. They make compact bullpup air rifles powerful enough to take down deer and bigger animals at 60 meters. Interesting video. Thanks.

What if it was some kind of airgun/air rifle at close range? Yes, I'm speculating, but at very close range and even at low speed, it can cause fatal damage.

https://airgunranger.com/what-can-an-air-gun-penetrate/

Compressed air. Think about it, that can produce a shock wave in a T-shirt. And if you aim at a soft part of the body (the neck) from a distance of about a meter and a half, you can cause a fatal injury. Years ago, I had the opportunity to use one of those air rifles. And the size of the chamber where the compressed air is stored is quite small.

 

[christx11]

It basically means "rock on" and perhaps she was using it to indicate "moving forward" with the movement?

It is American Sign Language for "I Love You".