Session 1 November 2025

[Benjamin]

A question that probably needs to be asked is: are those actually purses?
Because, while many of the stone cravings do look like purses, some of them are so oval that they look more like portable gongs. And gong means sound.

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And this one in particular reminds me of those modern doctor's bag, which are rather large and can have all sorts of medical equipment in them. It wouldn't be far-fetched if the original "purses" also were large, to carry several rather sizeable devices, but artistic interpretation caused them to be downsized them over time. And thus, evolution into purses.

I think the 'sound' idea is interesting. Thanks taratai.

I think the word purse was used to identify these gadgets because of its shape/form and what we are familiar with nowadays making them look very similar. I don’t think they were purses as we know them today, but maybe they were just boxes made of something or covering something, with a hang.

So, all people would see was the 'cloth' or 'veil', as it were. Also interesting.

If you look closely at the 'purses' held by the Apkallu, you can actually see some kind of connector between the handle and the body, like an eye-hook or something, as if to say the body of the purse could 'swing' from side-to-side.

I agree that the idea that these are actual purses, as we know a purse today, is ridiculous. Imo, at the very least these are reproductions from memories. There's no guarantee that the original devices, whatever they were, even looked like that. At best, what I can think of, is a purse, pail, bag, bucket is a type of container, and so that's the closest item that people could associate the actual device with. These objects are designed to hold items; "water, pollen, fruit," etc. Incidentally, a 'purse' is wholly tied to money, which equals power in our society; pollen and fruit: reproduction and agriculture; water: practically everything, chi, life. These refillable items are used to hold other items usually to transport them from one place to another. This is why I'm thinking it was a rechargeable device.

I couldn't say if the purse could actually be opened with stuff being placed inside. Maybe the device was the thing that did the opening?

Perhaps the original devices were actually made out of rock, idk, or spaceman suit cloth, or the same material that their ships were made out of, or the same material the pyramids were made out of - synthetic crystal?

 

[MJF]

Well in the video below, David Miano, a professor of ancient history, has it all sussed out. Apparently, the purses or handbags seen in the Assyrian carvings were actually just buckets for carrying water. So I guess the C's had it all wrong .​

See:

Why would the Apkallu deities (or Assyrian wise sages) be carrying buckets you may ask. This seems to be somewhat a menial task for such exalted beings you would think. Well, Professor Miano believes they were using the water carried in them to pollinate the Assyrian sacred date palm tree to ward off evil. Hmmm.

I also think he is wrong about the Assyrian tree of life, since I would suggest that there is indeed a link with the Jewish tree of life known as the 'Sephiroth'. The Jewish culture and philosophy did not come out of nowhere and it is highly likely that their Semitic ancestors hailed from Assyria and the even earlier kingdom of Akkad, a kingdom that had once been ruled over by the undergrounder Sargon the Great. Afterall, the C's suggested that the Jewish notion of the Exodus, as depicted in the Hebrew Bible, drew on an inherited folk memory of their Semitic forefathers having being slaves or underdogs in Mesopotamia or Sumeria. What other memories or concepts could they have inherited from their Semitic forebears?

What I do note though is that in the images of the Apkallu (Lizzies anyone?) and other beings carrying these purses (sorry I meant buckets ), they all seem to be wearing on their wrists what appears to be something like a modern day wrist watch. These could, of course, have been just decorative bracelets or bands but I wonder if they could possibly have represented some kind of technology that might have even been connected to the directed energy power source held within the purses.​

 

[Benjamin]

What I do note though is that in the images of the Apkallu (Lizzies anyone?) and other beings carrying these purses (sorry I meant buckets ), they all seem to be wearing on their wrists what appears to be something like a modern day wrist watch. These could, of course, have been just decorative bracelets or bands but I wonder if they could possibly have represented some kind of technology that might have even been connected to the directed energy power source held within the purses.​

No conclusions yet, but we've started discussing these points already in this thread. There are some posts previously but I bring in the Apkallu starting here. Ruth and Jeep start discussing the wrist band here with Gaby's response here. So, some form of interaction with the 'purses' and 'tree' is a possibility.

 

[Bernardo GA]

If you look closely at the 'purses' held by the Apkallu, you can actually see some kind of connector between the handle and the body, like an eye-hook or something, as if to say the body of the purse could 'swing' from side-to-side.

I agree that the idea that these are actual purses, as we know a purse today, is ridiculous. Imo, at the very least these are reproductions from memories. There's no guarantee that the original devices, whatever they were, even looked like that. At best, what I can think of, is a purse, pail, bag, bucket is a type of container, and so that's the closest item that people could associate the actual device with. These objects are designed to hold items; "water, pollen, fruit," etc. Incidentally, a 'purse' is wholly tied to money, which equals power in our society; pollen and fruit: reproduction and agriculture; water: practically everything, chi, life. These refillable items are used to hold other items usually to transport them from one place to another. This is why I'm thinking it was a rechargeable device.

Yes. And a car battery is also a storage device, container, receptacle. It is filled with electrical energy and becomes a source of energy to move something and do things.

The bag-shaped devices depicted in these bas-reliefs seem to me to be quite similar to a car battery.
Apart from the differences in the type of energy they use, there may be similarities in both cases.

For example, a car battery has two terminals, positive and negative.
And in the case of the guys holding the “bags,” they do so directly with one hand (without insulated gloves). Not only that. In some cases, these guys are barefoot, and in other cases, they are wearing shoes, that is, they are not grounded.
It occurs to me that depending on what they are doing, in some cases they need their own body to be like a grounding wire, and in other cases they need the ground to be their own body.
I'm just speculating.

From what I understand, electromagnetism is the energy they handle in this activity. That's why I'm not surprised that thought is what directs this energy in a specific direction, for a specific purpose.

If we consider that in 4D, physical matter is manipulated directly through thought, perhaps it is not unreasonable to think that in 3D, they can do similar things.
I believe the key may lie in balancing gravity.
The fact that stone spheres are gravity balancers caught my attention.
Perhaps balancing gravity in a certain area allows them to direct energy with their thoughts, manipulating matter within that area.
Something like a small, momentary 4D zone, but within 3D.

Translated with DeepL.com (free version)

 

[axj]

From what I understand, electromagnetism is the energy they handle in this activity. That's why I'm not surprised that thought is what directs this energy in a specific direction, for a specific purpose.

Sounds reasonable. If the "purses" are for energy storage, it makes sense that the cone in the other hand receives this energy to be directed somewhere. The watches may be for setting the frequency or something like that.

 

[N1mTzo]

What I do note though is that in the images of the Apkallu (Lizzies anyone?) and other beings carrying these purses (sorry I meant buckets ), they all seem to be wearing on their wrists what appears to be something like a modern day wrist watch. These could, of course, have been just decorative bracelets or bands but I wonder if they could possibly have represented some kind of technology that might have even been connected to the directed energy power source held within the purses.

I read somewhere that the "watches" on the Anunnaki's hands (sometimes depicted on BOTH) were chronographs, useful for time travel, among other things. It was important for them to keep track of precise periods of time.
I didn't attach much importance to this theory until I recently read about the SERPO project - Planetary objects proposed in religion, astrology, ufology and pseudoscience - Wikipedia
We won't speculate on the veracity of this project; what's interesting is something else.
According to the diaries of the experiment participants, their main problem was the inability to keep track of time on a planet other than Earth. This was a long time ago, in 1965, when human technology wasn't as advanced as it is today.
So, the planet SERPO was located in Zeta Reticuli, in a solar system with TWO suns. And because of this, there was no day/night cycle (and you couldn't even tell the approximate time; you didn't know the rotational periods of any of the suns). Gravity on the planet was slightly different from Earth's, so the American military's mechanical wristwatches worked poorly. They also had an atomic clock with a battery, but after two or three years, the battery broke and they couldn't fix it. After that, real hell began, since people are accustomed to living by the clock.
And what about the Gray Sights (or rather, EBEN)? It seems they never used wristwatches on their planet. Instead, they built "solar towers" (in cities and towns) that tracked the position of one sun relative to the other. Eventually, people also switched to this system (solar towers) due to the impossibility of using human clocks (or navigating the day/night cycle).

 

[MJF]

Something to be taken into consideration by the peeps that comets can also be inter-dimensional i.e they can instantly appear in our Solar system out of nowhere and leave us with very little notice. C's have touched on this indirectly in some of the oldest sessions that part of the comet cluster is in another realm. See below for relevance.

Session 23 March 1996​

I did ask a more direct question in an earlier session with the above in mind and it was more or less confirmed that these can come from anywhere without any notice and our 3D tech is not good enough to detect it.

Session 18 December 2021


Just think that even with the hidden tech that the PTB is possessing, its not good enough to tell them the location of all the comets which could potentially hit because some of them are not in our realm.

C's did allude to how they can arrange a comet hit which means that when a decision is made at a higher level for balancing purposes, a comet can be nudged to cross into our realm. Perhaps another of those Quorum activities.

Session 23 March 2013​

But, where will it hit?
There is a clue in the below excerpt from the same session as above.

Session 23 March 2013​

Think of the current parts of the world where ignorance rules and things have gone so pear shaped that we may be wishing for the comets to rain down everyday i.e the western bloc of nations. But, even the Islamic nations in the middle east and Indian population are so much orthogonal to the truth due to their religions and associated practices that they are also a prime candidate for a direct hit due to the negativity and need for a cleansing. FWIW!

The thought that comet, asteroid or meteorite strikes on Earth may synchronise with times of intense human conflict (e.g. the Trojan War, the major conflicts in Europe in the 17th century etc.) made me think about the largest known meteorite crater found on Earth, which is the Barringer Crater, an impact crater about 37 miles (60 km) east of Flagstaff, Arizona. It is about 3,900 ft (1,200 m) in diameter, some 560 ft (170 m) deep, and is surrounded by a rim that rises 148 ft (45 m) above the surrounding plains. The centre of the crater is filled with 690–790 ft (210–240 m) of rubble lying above crater bedrock. Using the C's description, this strike must have been a real "doozie". Scientists estimate that the asteroid or meteorite that created the crater was approximately 160 ft (50 m) in diameter.

See: Meteor Crater - Wikipedia

What grabbed my attention though is that the scientists believe the crater was created about 50,000 years ago during the Pleistocene epoch. Very few remaining craters are visible on Earth, since many have been erased by erosive geological processes. The relatively young age of the Barringer Crater, paired with the dry Arizona climate, has allowed the crater to remain comparatively unchanged since its formation.

Mainstream historians and archaeologists would have us believe that at the time this impact crater was formed humans were simple cavemen and hunter gatherers. However, the C's have suggested that during this period the Atlantean civilisation was at its height with large colonies on the Moon and Mars (and possibly other planetary bodies or moons in the Solar System too). Moreover, they have said that there was a war going on between the Celts and the Parathanas in India during this period, which may subsequently have spread to Mars as well, since there are signs of nuclear detonations on Mars, particularly in the Cydonia region (where the infamous Face on Mars is located) according to NASA scientist John Brandenburger - see: john brandenburg mars nuclear explosion - Search Videos
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Session 25 February 2023:
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(seek10) The C's mentioned that Hindu god Rama was a high priest influenced by the Confederation. What is his time period?

A: 50k years ago

Q: (seek10) What is the evil he fought against?

A: Lizards.

Q: (seek10) Is "Ravana" a fictional character based on cometary activity?

A: Yes

[...]

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Q: (seek10) The C's said that 50k years back, there was a war between Kantekkians and the Paranthas. Does the Rama play into that picture? Was it before or after the war?

A: After.

Q: (Ursus Minor) When did the Atlanteans start building pyramids on Mars?

A: Also about 50k years ago.

The C's subsequently confirmed that it was this war that led to the extinction of the Paranthas:

Session 13 January 2024:

Q: (seek10) What is the destruction event and approximate year that made the Paranthas go extinct?

A: 50KYA War.

Q: (Joe) A war 50,000 years ago.

If the scientists are correct about the formation of the Barringer Crater being the result of a meteorite impact 50,000 years ago, then this would put it in the same ball park as the war between the Kantekkians/Celts and the Paranthas and the construction of the pyramids on Mars, which seem to have become the targets for a nuclear attack.

So, did this massive meteorite impact in Arizona coincide with the war between the Kantekkians/Celts and the Paranthas and, if so, did it play any part in their extinction, depending on where they had been located of course. An asteroid or meteorite impact like this would have put out a huge amount of kinetic energy equivalent to a large nuclear weapon detonating. Indeed, the impact energy has been estimated at 10 megatons TNT. There may have been secondary impacts too, as pieces of the meteorite undoubtedly broke off prior to the main impact. Could this impactor have even been the basis of Ravana (meaning "roaring"), the ten-headed demon king of Lanka in the ancient Hindu epic Ramayana?

What strikes me about this though is that despite the Atlanteans advanced technology (supposedly vastly in advance of our own according to the C's), they were not able to protect the Earth against this impactor. If they were unable to stop such an impactor getting through, what chance do we have? Finally, is it possible that the Quorum arranged this strike?​

 

[Mark7]

I asked Deepseek for an even more simple explanation of the electromagnetic interaction affecting the brown dwarf's orbit:

The Cs were indicating basically that it's not either/or.

 

[Mark7]

Sounds reasonable. If the "purses" are for energy storage, it makes sense that the cone in the other hand receives this energy to be directed somewhere. The watches may be for setting the frequency or something like that.

If 'thought' is involved at all, then no wonder this technology is invisible to our current materialistic worldview. Thought, sound, frequency, rather than a 'dumb' particle. Maybe they were manipulating 'informed particles'.

 

[palestine]

The thought that comet, asteroid or meteorite strikes on Earth may synchronise with times of intense human conflict (e.g. the Trojan War, the major conflicts in Europe in the 17th century etc.) made me think about the largest known meteorite crater found on Earth, which is the Barringer Crater, an impact crater about 37 miles (60 km) east of Flagstaff, Arizona. It is about 3,900 ft (1,200 m) in diameter, some 560 ft (170 m) deep, and is surrounded by a rim that rises 148 ft (45 m) above the surrounding plains. The centre of the crater is filled with 690–790 ft (210–240 m) of rubble lying above crater bedrock. Using the C's description, this strike must have been a real "doozie". Scientists estimate that the asteroid or meteorite that created the crater was approximately 160 ft (50 m) in diameter.

See: Meteor Crater - Wikipedia

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What grabbed my attention though is that the scientists believe the crater was created about 50,000 years ago during the Pleistocene epoch. Very few remaining craters are visible on Earth, since many have been erased by erosive geological processes. The relatively young age of the Barringer Crater, paired with the dry Arizona climate, has allowed the crater to remain comparatively unchanged since its formation.

Mainstream historians and archaeologists would have us believe that at the time this impact crater was formed humans were simple cavemen and hunter gatherers. However, the C's have suggested that during this period the Atlantean civilisation was at its height with large colonies on the Moon and Mars (and possibly other planetary bodies or moons in the Solar System too). Moreover, they have said that there was a war going on between the Celts and the Parathanas in India during this period, which may subsequently have spread to Mars as well, since there are signs of nuclear detonations on Mars, particularly in the Cydonia region (where the infamous Face on Mars is located) according to NASA scientist John Brandenburger - see: john brandenburg mars nuclear explosion - Search Videos
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The C's subsequently confirmed that it was this war that led to the extinction of the Paranthas:



If the scientists are correct about the formation of the Barringer Crater being the result of a meteorite impact 50,000 years ago, then this would put it in the same ball park as the war between the Kantekkians/Celts and the Paranthas and the construction of the pyramids on Mars, which seem to have become the targets for a nuclear attack.

So, did this massive meteorite impact in Arizona coincide with the war between the Kantekkians/Celts and the Paranthas and, if so, did it play any part in their extinction, depending on where they had been located of course. An asteroid or meteorite impact like this would have put out a huge amount of kinetic energy equivalent to a large nuclear weapon detonating. Indeed, the impact energy has been estimated at 10 megatons TNT. There may have been secondary impacts too, as pieces of the meteorite undoubtedly broke off prior to the main impact. Could this impactor have even been the basis of Ravana (meaning "roaring"), the ten-headed demon king of Lanka in the ancient Hindu epic Ramayana?

What strikes me about this though is that despite the Atlanteans advanced technology (supposedly vastly in advance of our own according to the C's), they were not able to protect the Earth against this impactor. If they were unable to stop such an impactor getting through, what chance do we have? Finally, is it possible that the Quorum arranged this strike?​

Could be a nuclear hit, instead of a comet/asteroid. Did they find "cometary proxies" (comet debris in chemical analysis)?

 

[Sindy-S.R]

Well in the video below, David Miano, a professor of ancient history, has it all sussed out. Apparently, the purses or handbags seen in the Assyrian carvings were actually just buckets for carrying water. So I guess the C's had it all wrong .​

See:

Why would the Apkallu deities (or Assyrian wise sages) be carrying buckets you may ask. This seems to be somewhat a menial task for such exalted beings you would think. Well, Professor Miano believes they were using the water carried in them to pollinate the Assyrian sacred date palm tree to ward off evil. Hmmm.

I also think he is wrong about the Assyrian tree of life, since I would suggest that there is indeed a link with the Jewish tree of life known as the 'Sephiroth'. The Jewish culture and philosophy did not come out of nowhere and it is highly likely that their Semitic ancestors hailed from Assyria and the even earlier kingdom of Akkad, a kingdom that had once been ruled over by the undergrounder Sargon the Great. Afterall, the C's suggested that the Jewish notion of the Exodus, as depicted in the Hebrew Bible, drew on an inherited folk memory of their Semitic forefathers having being slaves or underdogs in Mesopotamia or Sumeria. What other memories or concepts could they have inherited from their Semitic forebears?

What I do note though is that in the images of the Apkallu (Lizzies anyone?) and other beings carrying these purses (sorry I meant buckets ), they all seem to be wearing on their wrists what appears to be something like a modern day wrist watch. These could, of course, have been just decorative bracelets or bands but I wonder if they could possibly have represented some kind of technology that might have even been connected to the directed energy power source held within the purses.​

Watching this video gave me an idea, I don't know if anyone has already mentioned it.
What if the watch-shaped object or band, the bag, and the pineapple were actually what they are "literally"?

Let me explain, these beings had to "disguise" themselves, according to the fashion of that era, because presenting themselves dressed as what they are could have created too strong a visual and cognitive impact for the humans of that time.
In the case of the bag, watch, and pineapple, they were technological devices they used, but they disguised them to avoid creating a strong visual impact.

If you were a time traveler from the future and needed to interact with people from the past, for example, from more than 5,500 years ago, wouldn't you disguise yourself?

Note: I'm not saying that the Apkallu were time travelers; on the contrary, I think they were beings from that time, but more evolved.

 

[MJF]

Might be the giants referenced in Giants on Record: America's Hidden History, Secrets in the Mounds and the Smithsonian Files.

From this interview:

The Truth Perspective: Giants on Record with Jim Vieira and Hugh Newman

Hidden in local archives and dusty Smithsonian reports are accounts that are all but forgotten to North American historians and scientists: accounts of giant (7 to 9 feet tall) skeletons discovered all across the country, many buried under...

www.sott.net

Which, interestingly enough, is practically the same description which was brought up in "Where Troy Once Stood".

In Homer's "The Odyssey", the Laestrygonians are a tribe of man-eating giants. They are described as being of immense size and strength, with human-like features but on a monstrous scale, making them terrifying adversaries. According to myth, they are the offspring of Laestrygon, a son of the sea god Poseidon, giving them a divine lineage. Demigods, indeed.

Post in thread 'Where Troy Once Stood'

Oct 1, 2025

Cailleux's books are available here.

Here are the maps he designed based on his thesis:

Theophile Cailleaux, who wrote in the 19th Century about Troy being in England, talks about Cuba being one of the landmarks that Odysseus visited, just as Wilkens expanded in his book "Where Troy Once Stood". I'm reading his book and my impression is that his thesis is onto something. I couldn't find any solid criticisms against his books on the web, only ad hominen attacks which, if anything, proves that his thesis is worth reading. Wilkens quotes him in his book "Where Troy Once Stood"...

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Theophile Cailleaux, who wrote in the 19th Century about Troy being in England, talks about Cuba being one of the landmarks that Odysseus visited, just as Wilkens expanded in his book "Where Troy Once Stood".

Cailleaux argues that Odysseus went to Cuba and that the Olmecs and Laestrygons describe the same ancient civilization. But his idea of ancient civilization suggests that it was way before the Bronze Age. He also says that the perfect spherical stones (like the ones found in Costa Rica) were already there during Odysseus visit, and it was in reference to the Olmecs, derived from Olmos, meaning spherical rock. Olmos derived from Holm, which implies island. His "green language" decoding stems from way back before anything resembling "Native Americans" arrived into the region.

So it seems that, yes, "The Iliad" and "The Odyssey" describe oral traditions from Atlantis. And you can find the same elements, whether it was Homer or Native American legends.

Is there anything in the fact that the C's referred to "demygods" rather than "demigods"? Was it just a spelling mistake or was it a clue in itself? I say this because the name "Demy" is of Greek origin and is derived from the Greek word "demos" meaning "the people" or "the common people." It is often used as a diminutive form of names such as Demetrius or Demetria. Historically, it has been associated with the Greek goddess Demeter, symbolizing fertility and agriculture. So, were the C's making an indirect reference to Greek mythology in particular here such as Homer's "The Odyssey", which you rightly mentioned above?

The Tuatha de Danann

There is another group of red-headed giants found in mythology and that is the Tuatha de Danann of Irish folklore. They are the people of the primordial goddess Danu, a supernatural race known for their magical abilities. They are usually depicted as tall, pale beings with red or blonde hair and striking blue or green eyes and were considered god-like. The powers most often attributed to them are control over the weather and the elements, and the ability to shapeshift themselves and other things. They dwell in the Otherworld, which is described as either a parallel world or a heavenly land beyond the sea or under the earth's surface (MJF: hmmm... undergrounders anyone?), but interact with humans and the human world. They are associated with the sídhe [pronounced “shee”]: prominent ancient burial mounds such as Brú na Bóinne, which are entrances to Otherworld realms. Sometimes the Sidhe have also been connected to crystal caverns inhabited by the Tuatha, where artificial light gives them eternal life [MJF: which again accords with the description the C's gave for the inner earth realms]. Were they Nephilim giants or remnants of the Sumerian Anunnaki (whose leader was Anu) who had migrated across North Africa to Ireland in the distant past?

Irish legend holds that shortly after the Milesian Celts’ arrival, the Tuatha de Danann mysteriously vanished from the surface. Alternative accounts speak of a great clash between the Milesians and the Tuatha de Danann. Two main accounts describe their fate:​

• Battle and Retreat: In one version, the Milesians defeated the Tuatha de Danann, forcing them to retreat underground. Over time, these ancient gods became known as the Sidhe, or people of the underworld.
• Pre-emptive Withdrawal: Alternatively, forewarned by their own prophecies, the Tuatha de Danann withdrew from the surface before the battle began, choosing to inhabit the Otherworld permanently.

Curiously, many Irish families today claim descent from these ancient gods, ensuring that the mythic legacy of the Tuatha de Danann endures into modern times. Who knows, perhaps some of the tall red-haired people you meet in Ireland today may be descendants of these semi-divine beings. One of these families is the O’Brien Clan, said to descend from King Brian Boru of the Dáirine Tuatha de Danann. I myself am descended on my mother's side from the O'Briens. I find it curious in this same connection that the C's once told Laura that she had been an O'Brien in a previous life:
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Session 21 December 1996:
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Q: (A) So many things have happened to me, that I am wondering if something happened to my brain in this life or another that would explain my thinking.

A: More specific, please.

Q: (A) Did anything happen in another life that has caused me problems in this life?

A: The answer is yes, as with all others.

Q: (L) What happened to cause these mental problems?

A: Not mental, emotional.

Q: (L) Can you tell us a little bit about it?

A: Death of a twin in the last lifetime. Farming accident in 1880's.

Q: How did this twin die?

A: Fell off of the ox-driven combine, driven by father. Was decapitated.

Q: (L) Were they male or female twins?

A: Male.

Q: (L) And what were their names?

A: Lucas and Lawrence. Lucas was the one that died.

Q: (L)Where was Mother, as Lawrence, at the time?

A: In the house.

Q: (L) And what kind of emotion has carried over into this lifetime?

A: Her longing is insatiable as she is always "looking for love" due to her loss.

Q: (L) How old was Lucas when this happened?

A: 8 years old.

Q: (L) How many years after this accident did Lawrence live?

A: 22 years.

Q: (L) Have any of the persons of that lifetime returned to interact with her in this life?

A: No.

Q: (L) Not even the twin?

A: Correct.

Q: (A) Emotions are not mental, there is a difference? So, my problems now are emotional and not mental?

A: Your problems are due to maladjustment.

Q: (L) From life to life or just this life?

A: They are the same.

Q: (V) Did she witness the accident?

A: No.

Q: (L) Did she see the body after?

A: No.

Q: (L) Was there any sense of blame or resentment directed toward her by the parents of that time?

A: No.

Q: (L) Was there any mental or emotional abuse that took place in that lifetime?

A: Maybe some, but it is not significant.

Q: (L) What steps can she take to resolve this maladjustment?

A: Awareness of the root of the problem.

Q: (L) Is there any other part to this event that would help her?

A: No.

Q: (A) So, all the problems that I had as a child were the result of this?

A: Some seek an environment of "punishment" in an attempt to resolve left-over issues.

Q: (L) Did she have feelings of guilt that her twin had died and she was still alive?

A: Yes, but this was not imposed by others.

Q: (L) Okay, she felt guilt, and sought an environment that would punish her?

A: Close enough for hand grenades.

Q: (L) Where was the farm located that this incident occurred?

A: Near Cannopolis, North Carolina.

Q: (L) Can you give us the family name?

A: O'Brien.

Q: (A) Let me ask this: all of the experiences that I had as a child were caused by this emotion where I was trying to punish myself. I have spent my lifetime trying to punish myself. Is that right?

A: Close. But remember, the point is, you sought out a environment that you perceived to be restrictive and unforgiving. Especially with your father.

So, perhaps Laura has her own connections to the Tuatha de Danann. Interestingly, the Celtic word "bri" is usually taken to mean "high" or "exalted one" and is found in the name of the Irish goddess Brigid, a member of the Tuatha de Danann and a triple goddess figure too.

For more on the legends of the Tuatha de Danann see: Tuatha de Danann: Origins, Prophecy & Modern Descendants
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[Laurentien2]

Could be a nuclear hit, instead of a comet/asteroid. Did they find "cometary proxies" (comet debris in chemical analysis)?

Yes they did. At the visitor center, they have piece of the impactor the largest 1,406 lb. Holsinger Meteorite, the largest specimen ever found at Meteor Crater. I visited the center (crater) many years ago.
You can see a photo of the Holsinger meteorite here:

Meteor Crater Space Museum | Arizona’s Interactive Space Experience

Explore the Meteor Crater Space Museum, featuring interactive space experience exhibits and fascinating space history. One of Arizona's best family-friendly activities.

meteorcrater.com

 

[Gaby]

So, were the C's making an indirect reference to Greek mythology in particular here such as Homer's "The Odyssey", which you rightly mentioned above?

Yeah, interesting connection. We were discussing the Costa Rican stone spheres in Where Troy Once Stood, where the predecessor of the book with the same title was a French/Belgian author of the name of Cailleaux writing in the 19th Century.

Cailleaux argues that Odysseus went to Cuba and that the Olmecs and Laestrygons describe the same ancient civilization, which came from Northern Europe.

 

[palestine]

Yes they did. At the visitor center, they have piece of the impactor the largest 1,406 lb. Holsinger Meteorite, the largest specimen ever found at Meteor Crater. I visited the center (crater) many years ago.
You can see a photo of the Holsinger meteorite here:

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Hello,

Thank you.

Yes, I consulted the wiki and other sources to find an answer to this question. What's strange is that the wiki, and these other sources, often mention meteorites originating from the crater. There are photos and everything. And yet, in parallel, within these same sources (including Wikipedia), there are mentions here and there of "however, it has never been proven that the crater was due to a meteorite impact." This left me a bit perplexed!

I tried to find analytical data from the crater. I'm surprised that the NOAA database has nothing.

I searched for "Barringer crater isotope data," for example. There's a NASA study, and others. But it's as if the usual researchers have never set foot there. However, there are tons of studies being done in craters with the almost explicit goal of proving that a comet landed there. It's suddenly become difficult to find the chemical measurements that were apparently carried out there. I also think I haven't searched enough and that such data is available. For instance, the place is alternatively named "Canyon Diablo" instead of "Barringer crater". I may find something with this name!

Anyway, I don't want to question all this research; all the evidence points to plenty of meteorites, etc. Since @MJF mentioned this, I thought, "What about a nuclear war impact?".