Session 1 November 2025

[Benjamin]

A question that probably needs to be asked is: are those actually purses?
Because, while many of the stone cravings do look like purses, some of them are so oval that they look more like portable gongs. And gong means sound.

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And this one in particular reminds me of those modern doctor's bag, which are rather large and can have all sorts of medical equipment in them. It wouldn't be far-fetched if the original "purses" also were large, to carry several rather sizeable devices, but artistic interpretation caused them to be downsized them over time. And thus, evolution into purses.

I think the 'sound' idea is interesting. Thanks taratai.

I think the word purse was used to identify these gadgets because of its shape/form and what we are familiar with nowadays making them look very similar. I don’t think they were purses as we know them today, but maybe they were just boxes made of something or covering something, with a hang.

So, all people would see was the 'cloth' or 'veil', as it were. Also interesting.

If you look closely at the 'purses' held by the Apkallu, you can actually see some kind of connector between the handle and the body, like an eye-hook or something, as if to say the body of the purse could 'swing' from side-to-side.

I agree that the idea that these are actual purses, as we know a purse today, is ridiculous. Imo, at the very least these are reproductions from memories. There's no guarantee that the original devices, whatever they were, even looked like that. At best, what I can think of, is a purse, pail, bag, bucket is a type of container, and so that's the closest item that people could associate the actual device with. These objects are designed to hold items; "water, pollen, fruit," etc. Incidentally, a 'purse' is wholly tied to money, which equals power in our society; pollen and fruit: reproduction and agriculture; water: practically everything, chi, life. These refillable items are used to hold other items usually to transport them from one place to another. This is why I'm thinking it was a rechargeable device.

I couldn't say if the purse could actually be opened with stuff being placed inside. Maybe the device was the thing that did the opening?

Perhaps the original devices were actually made out of rock, idk, or spaceman suit cloth, or the same material that their ships were made out of, or the same material the pyramids were made out of - synthetic crystal?