@MJF, another great sum up to me
Thank you a lot!
Here are a couple of observations:
This suggests that there is also a non-human element within the Illuminati's ranks just to complicate matters further. Who are the non-humans I wonder? Are they the Lizard beings or 4D STS Nordics or a mixture of both and/or others who are in union with the Orion Empire?
I could barely swear that a session mentions "hybrids" among the ranks, somewhere. I am not sure.
This could explain why both the French and the American Revolutions, for example, were heavily led by Freemasons.
However, returning to the possible links between the Illuminati and the Nation of the Third Eye (the "undergrounders) who are all supposedly Aryan types
they were the inspiration for the Illuminati as well as Masonic lore
I recently posted a quick sum up of the last lecture of the Chinese professor Jiang Xueqin, a Youtube channel favoured by several members here. He seems to have a take about future events, hence the title of his trainings "predictive history".
Out of interest, i took note of his last conference, and the following link is the partial transcript of the video:
Predictive History (YouTube Lecturer)
His model is based on the fact that there are several groups, which possess quite an extensive amount of wealth, and who are invested in "pursuing their eschatology". I am afraid that those are not the best words to describe the matter - but, a few groups, all have an eschatology (functioning like an ideology, it seems), and it's what "motivates them". They believe in a script, and, for whatever reason, they believe that this is what will "unfold". There seems to be competition, and the idea of "pushing a bit for the script to happen" seems already far beyond their consideration.
It could be that you know about those videos. Well, so, this Chinese professor says that he is not sure that this is what is taking place, but that this is something that would be matching observations. I understand that even if the matter is more complicated, situation amounts to: "groups, belief in a script, pushing for the script". For instance, ideological Jewish elites would believe in the Messiah chronology, so they would nowadays be pushing events so that the script unfolds. Ultimately, a saviourship of some sort, or a positive outcome for them.
I am sorry that the above was only the context of a specific point. At a first glance, we may consider that what the professor says amounts to "three or four groups & their respective eschatologies", competing with themselves. That would be the main idea, but at the very start of his expose, he explains how Illuminatis infiltrated Freemasonry.
My point here goes as follows: let's imagine a new member, freshly arrived on the forum. He would take note of some sessions, come in touch with "the hierarchy of STS", etc. I feel that we may have a mono black&white consideration of "one big scale", successive, consistent in terms of hierarchy, going by
(immaterial STS)
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Illuminati
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Freemasons
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(...)
Well - more or less. But this could be only me who had that model in mind. What I mean is that the Chinese professor hints at the matter that Freemasons may not be that willingly subordinated to Illuminatis. That would be because of an evolution, due to infiltration. And so, we, on the opposite, would simply be thinking in terms of "they all agree", "they are in the same boat", "they are pals" etc. things like that.
Can we assume they work together for the same ends where the surface world is concerned?
I would express caution in this regard, then, but I really don't know. The Chinese professor's take seems quite naïve at first glance, and simple. I still appreciate it.
In addition, the fact that there are Freemasons members here does not exactly account for a whole-bloody STS Illuminati mess - in regard of Freemasons. I would rather opt for Rosicrusians, who seem to fit the model of partnership with Illuminati better. But I don't know. I really don't know and so, I just wanted to highlight the possibility for a little refinement here. I would say that Illuminatis seem completely polarized towards a completely different agenda ("road split") in regard of Freemasons (who have a structure starting with individuals, philantropic concepts, etc etc). I see the potential for a refining of the concepts.
You know it best. Let me express those ideas as hypothesis. Your post shows that you would be ready to pack up all those notions in a summed up whole. Overall, I was thinking of the Freemason "aspect" as potentially requiring attention. Your post is great because it sums up many concepts in a clear and linear fashion.
(Ze Germans) Are there any conflicting 4D STS groups or races operating on the Earth at the moment or all of them are more or less cooperating with each other?
A: Not cooperating with each other. That is the wrong concept. They operate under the control of an hierarchical system with an overlord pulling the strings or levers as the case may be.
It could be that we would need to fashion a model factoring in "STS" and "4D STS" as distinct matters. The whole pyramidal structure would be basically "headed" towards STS, as the "ruling polarity" - but "4D STS" pertains to the realm of the immaterial. You perfectly master this concept, as I noticed that, at the end of your post, you mention hybridization. I believe that if we are not familiar with those matters, this may be a source of conflation. STS and 4D STS becomes a muddy whole, for the mind.
And how convenient that there exists "hybrids"! This adds up one level of complexity!
On another hand, this should not discourage ourselves because it can be "gone through", studied, and explained.
I am still wondering if the bridge, from 3D to 4D, consists of those hybrids. Quite a convenient explanation but I feel this simple idea ... suspicious.
From my small Lobaczewski perspective, I took note of a recent session in which C's stated that it was hard for lizards (I assume "4D STS") than to come in 3D and act. You spoke of "genetic" and approached the matter in your post. I would be tempted to believe that genetic psychopathies would represent anchor points for 4D > 3D processes to happen. This would constitue an additional "aspect" to consider, in addition to the hybrids - in terms of the strata where a blend exists between 4D and 3D. I am not sure. I really don't know. I am pointing that out so that you may ponder if this is an interesting idea worth exploring.
Let me add a very hypothetical model that I know of, which could be of use for people interested in those types of research. I found that one on Sott, one day.
Christophe DEJOURS, a French psychiatrist, was able to define a model for "evil structures". I assume that this applies to "crime", and much more. It could be that this applies, too, to STS and that his findings reflect the structure that are built within an STS framework:
Christophe Dejours - “Suffering in France. The banalization of social injustice”
From a clinical point of view, this leads us to the conclusion that the banality of evil is ultimately based on a three-stage system. When they fit together correctly, they have an effective power to neutralise collective mobilisation against injustice and harm inflicted on others in our society.
The first stage consists of the leaders of the neo-liberal doctrine and the concrete organisation of the work of evil in the theatre of operations. The most typical psychological profile is represented by a perverse or paranoid type of personality organisation.
The second tier is made up of direct collaborators, close to or in the field of operations. The mental structures here are very diverse. Their unification, coordination and active participation are achieved through collective strategies and ideologies of defence. Here, defence is the mainspring of commitment, not desire (collective strategy of defence of virile cynicism).
Finally, the third tier is made up of the mass of people who resort to individual defence strategies against fear. The unification of these strategies, which leads to mass consent to injustice, is ensured by the common use of the stereotyped rationalisation content made available to them by the strategy of communicational distortion.
I believe that this is a sort of "fractal". Wherever we would be studying "evil", that structure would be found. This model would not only be representative of the overall STS control system (it shows a basic organization according to three "levels" - "the CEO's", sector managers, unwitting people / the mass / citizens) - but it may be applicable fractally, too. This, meaning that at the level of the blending, on the top, where there exists 4D and 3D motions, this model would be in motion.
Relying on "Hybrids" exclusively would be an oversimplification of a structure existing at this place. This place would be consisiting of, again, a sort of hierarchy, some big bosses, etc. I use to think in terms of "operators" because those are level 2 and / or level 3. Hybrids and psychic projectors would be doing the dirty work, the operational guys. The CEO's, we know, are some managers who don't like to do the dirty work. They sit in an office of some sort, they supervize things.
Is this model applicable? Is there anything of value that could be of use?
An alternative idea that which comes to mind would be that this model would illustrate 4D STS as being "the first level"; then the second level would be reflected here by hybrids (bridges in terms of "4D > 3D blending). Finally, us mere humans would be the third level. A sort of descriptor of the STS shell on the planet. Idea would be that it would be a gross and accurate starting point.
So - how to interpret this model may be the matter, if this model is objective.
I hope that my post would have ideas that are of use. I expect the possibility that there are none and accept that.
) or warlocks at the head of covens (indeed they are supposed to follow a coven like structure according to my reading).
