Session 28 February 2026

[axj]

Do the C’s know what is on the other side of consciousness and or what created/creates consciousness?

Awareness or consciousness may be what created everything else.

 

[seek10]

Session 24 June 2023
A: [...] (seek10) Is it true that UFOs (great flying silvery shining shields) influenced Alexander the Great's world conquest? The siege of Tyre and his decision to not invade India?

A: Yes, Alexander was manipulated.

The use of the word "manipulated" makes me wonder what the intentions were of Alexander's side and what the consequences would have been had he persisted?

This is my line of thought.

Short answer is to facilitate the spread of Monotheism in the West and Middle East (that came later after 540 AD). For what ever reason, they (4D STS) don't want that in India and traditionally considered as related to nuts and bolts of war logistics.

You always need different "versions" so that people can bang their head between walls, while real culprit gets away with what they want (control). People try to figure out and always get hung up by these walls. We see this in politics all over the world and it is nothing new.

Let's consider Comets (including cometary Venus, giant comet remnants and 3600 years cycle repeating one's) as reset mechanism and its myriad effects like viruses, means to understand ( Gods or "Science"). I suspect it is related to STO balancing act to reset the time looped STS mechanism for the sake of bigger picture - planet's growth life cycle and Wave effect on masses in preparation for next grand cycle.

This is my line of thought in terms of players ( 4D STS/STO, 3D Races at different places), resets and program changes ( YD , 2300 BCE, 1600 BCE, 1100 BCE, 540 AD) and all existed for Experience of the players and each has their own means of doing.

Assumptions: I haven't done enough research on 470 years of addition and how this impacts main stream dates of 2300 BCE/1600 BCE/1100 BCE - all or same date, multiple dates, effects of gravity changes on the methodology of event dates etc.

1100 BCE : You have these sea people from North came with their own past knowledge created Greece civilization and while Stalinizing the Venus, created their own epics to memorialize their past. It is what Alexander's conquest spread it across the world. Indian equivalents went ahead with their own version, converting Settled Venus in to Vishnu and other effects to Siva and gave final form to Puranas to memorialize the past.

540 AD reset. That resulted in change of program that created Christianity (Paul's theology and Jewish "Messiah"), Islam ( some mixture of monotheisms) and conservative Hinduism introduced Vegetarianism in their battle with (then) dominant Buddhism etc. Each land has their own journey in the process.

In the Mary Settegast's book, she mentioned the artistic creativity after 1100 AD is so great (in West), it is equivalent to Pre-YD art. C's too confirmed the effect of viruses on the population after that, when Pierre asked.

If STS does things going back in time and modifies it (to make it difficult to change), cometary impact screws up that mechanism. So they have to re-tweak it whenever the reset happens (just before or immediately after). So it is 'As above, so below' (or the cat and mouse game of upstairs folks).

4D STS keep on doing genetic re-tweaking, reintroducing new races, where ever they needed. In the context of India, IVC (north west India and Pakistan) moved to Angkor Wat, but what was going on in the mainland India is little hazy. Probably not much destruction happened., then no need to make too many changes.
session-24-june-2023

(seek10) The C’s mentioned gypsies are gene spliced with an alien race, humanoid and Atlantean drone workers. Did this happen in the Indus Valley civilization region and period?

A: No, it was much earlier. Refugees migrated there.

Q: (seek10) If the Indus Valley civilization peoples are into genetic modification, is the current Indian tendency for rituals the remnant of it through the Dravidian lineage?

A: Yes, but see previous answer also.

In short, religion or "Science" (that supposed to explain the REALITY) is repackaging of what resonates with people at that time (past legends, comets, binding migrating/warring population and so on) for human organization.
session-12-july-2014

Q: (Atriedes) Do you mind if your memory and image is used in a religion?

A: As long as it is with understanding of the truth. What is religion anyway but that which binds people together as is showed with my army.

 

[Ben]

Has Trump drafted a speech about the reality of "aliens" to be delivered at the right time as claimed by his daughter-in-law? - Yes. Question is: will it be accurate? Trump will not be told the whole truth.

Trump exits in early 2029, if there are no major changes, so there is time. Besides, he may be late for the party, by not being he first, however:
[Svetlana Dragan] is saying, basically, there's going to be disclosure in 2026 of some kind. Is she close to the mark with that? - Close.
Will it be a real disclosure or distraction? - Distraction. Real disclosure would lead to mass rejection.
Session 27 April 2024

If Trump says anything, there would be headlines, but really:
As far as we can see, they have already been introduced, just the people are not paying attention.
Session 13 January 2024

At some stage, more people will understand:
Ultimately there will be a major transformation in consciousness.
Session 30 December 2023

Regarding what Trump might say, and because he is not told the whole truth, another perspective is:
False information is worse than no information.
Session 24 June 2023

Fits and starts

Even if the version he is served does not show much awareness, some elements will be there:
They are aware of the nature but believe that they can control it. Wishful thinking dominates at all levels of the STS hierarchy

Better not to believe

Trump tends to presents himself as the top guy, but does he really believe that himself, or has be had encounters similar to the following:

Actually this reminds me of something I wrote about here when we discussing John DeSouza

Post in thread 'Massive 'drone swarm' in and around New Jersey: UFO flap, govt tech, or mass hysteria?' Massive 'drone swarm' in and around New Jersey: UFO flap, govt tech, or mass hysteria?

He was convinced, after what he regarded as a high level source revealed it, that the plan was war with Iran. Should that fail to achieve the desired results then the next step was a fake alien invasion.

 

[Menna]

Awareness or consciousness may be what created everything else.

How did consciousness/awareness come to be? I understand everything we know currently falls within consciousness

 

[axj]

How did consciousness/awareness come to be?

It may be a good question for the C's. My guess is that it always existed, the most fundamental and real part of existence.

 

[axj]

He was convinced, after what he regarded as a high level source revealed it, that the plan was war with Iran. Should that fail to achieve the desired results then the next step was a fake alien invasion.

It looks more like they will go with the 'alien saviours' psyop, possibly to introduce "our advanced brothers from the underground".

 

[Wandering Star]

How did consciousness/awareness come to be? I understand everything we know currently falls within consciousness

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Thread 'Who is the One? Who is God?'

Aug 8, 2024

I know we can barely understand fourth density, so understanding what the One is may be an impossible task.

All creation and its beings are "God", but...

Why does he make the periodic outlay (it seems) of creation?

Are there more like him?

Is there an environment?

And so on.

Perhaps the C's who are "closer" to "him" can say something that we from so far away can understand.

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[christx11]

How did consciousness/awareness come to be? I understand everything we know currently falls within consciousness

I think the C's sessions have answered this several times. Consciousness is all there is. There was no "come to be". There is no beginng or end. 'Come to be" implies that it had to arise from something else. There is nothing else.

 

[Benjamin]

L. Frank Baum had nothing to do with any "red shoe" conspiracy, since red shoes were never featured in any of his fourteen Oz books.

I'm not claiming he's part of a conspiracy. Baum had Dorothy wearing silver slippers, whereas in the 1939 Oz movie she wore red shoes apparently for Technicolor purposes, although in Hans Christian Andersen's fairy tale, The Red Shoes, Karen wore red shoes, which may be an homage in the movie. The fact that Baum was a Theosophist was just a fyi. I would be interested to know if he became a Theosophist before or after her wrote the Oz books (I'm guessing before). He also died in 1919, so I'm pretty sure the Red Shoe Club didn't exist, if it does at all. And I say that because all there is is a photo of a bunch of (unsavoury) guys wearing bright red shoes. I'm not trying to downplay it when I ask, does that make a club?

I had a look into the history of specifically red shoes. In all of the earliest instances, red shoes were for the elites. The colour was expensive to make and only certain people could afford it. They were also used in the military and rituals. When asked, Grok says it's a possibility but there's no evidence of blood being used as an actual dye (I think the smell of rotting blood would be atrocious and then it would just turn brown).

This list is set up to generally look at red shoes by region and time.

Ancient Period (Pre-500 CE)

• Mediterranean Region (Etruscans, Italy): Red footwear, often dyed with Phoenician purple manifesting as scarlet, symbolized aristocratic status and power among kings and elites, as evidenced in tomb paintings from Tarquinia circa 530–520 BCE.
• Mediterranean Region (Romans, Italy): Adopted from Etruscans, red shoes (calceus mulleus) were reserved for senators, magistrates, and emperors, denoting authority and imperial triumph.
• Middle East (Persians, Achaemenid Empire): Red shoes and laces signified royal authority over warriors, as depicted in Persepolis reliefs from circa 550–330 BCE.
• Africa (Ancient Egypt): Red-dyed leather sandals, often from cattle or goat hides, were used by elites in ceremonial contexts, with examples from the 17th Dynasty (circa 1580–1550 BCE) featuring protective engravings.
• Asia (Ancient China): Early use of red dyes in footwear during the Zhou Dynasty (1046–256 BCE), symbolizing power and virtue.
• Asia (Ancient India): Red sandals or footwear in Vedic rituals (1500–500 BCE), associated with auspiciousness and prosperity.

Medieval Period (500–1500 CE)

• Europe (Byzantine Empire): Red boots (tzangia or campagi) were imperial regalia for emperors, symbolizing sovereignty and divine right, from the 6th century under Justinian I.
• Europe (Western Europe): Papal red shoes emerged around the 8th century, influenced by Byzantine traditions, representing martyrdom and ecclesiastical authority.
• Eastern Europe (Russia/Ukraine): Red boots symbolized nobility in upper-class culture, often linked to mythical or real status markers.
• Asia (China, Song Dynasty): Red lotus shoes for bound feet, symbolizing refinement and marital prosperity, prevalent from 960–1279 CE.
• Asia (India, Mughal Influences): Red footwear in bridal and ceremonial contexts, building on earlier Vedic traditions.
• South America (Inca Empire): Red-dyed usuta sandals using cochineal, reserved for elites to denote status, circa 1200–1533 CE.
• South America (Moche and Nazca, Peru): Potential red elements in sandals from elite burials, symbolizing power and ritual, circa 100 BCE–800 CE.

Early Modern Period (1500–1800 CE)

• Europe (France): Red-heeled shoes popularized by King Louis XIV in the 1600s–1700s, signifying aristocratic privilege and power; often made of leather with scarlet soles.
• Europe (England/Netherlands): Red leather shoes with buckles or straps, common among nobility and middling classes in the 18th century, including oxblood variants circa 1750–1800.
• Europe (General): Continuation of papal red shoes, with variations in cloth or silk for seasonal use.

Modern Period (1800 CE–Present)

• Europe (General): Red shoes in fashion, including embroidered styles in the 19th century and revival of 17th-century designs in the late 1800s.
• North America (United States): Red leather women's dress shoes in the mid-20th century (1950s), often with spike heels; also symbolic in women's history movements, representing breaking barriers.
• Global (Fashion Influences): Red-soled high heels by designers like Christian Louboutin from the 1990s, evoking historical power and passion.

This next list uses the same format only focusing on the cultural and religious significance of red shoes. Again, elitist, but the idea of "sacrifice" and "martyrdom" comes in during the Medieval Period. Also, during the Song Dynasty, foot binding with red shoes was common and I thought it was interesting, from a different discussion, that those women were dancers (also used in marriage ceremonies). Hans Christian Andersen's story featured a woman who couldn't stop dancing when she wore the red shoes. In another discussion, there's a rather funny ritual from Egypt that had pharaoh's sandals with images of enemies on their soles which allowed symbolic "crushing" with each step. I bet he felt like a giant.

Ancient Period (Pre-500 CE)

• Mediterranean Region (Etruscans and Romans, Italy): Red footwear symbolized aristocratic status, power, and wealth, derived from expensive Phoenician dyes that manifested as scarlet hues. Reserved for kings, senators, and emperors, it denoted social distinction and authority, reflecting themes of triumph and privilege in pre-Roman and Roman societies.
• Middle East (Achaemenid Persians): Red shoes and laces represented royal dominion over warriors, embodying strength and hierarchical social estates in ceremonial contexts.
• Africa (Ancient Egypt): Red-dyed leather sandals held protective and vitalistic connotations, associated with life force and deities, often featured in elite funerary rituals to symbolize mobility and status in the afterlife.
• Asia (Ancient China, Zhou Dynasty): Red footwear signified virtue, power, and auspiciousness, aligning with cultural emphases on harmony and imperial symbolism.
• Asia (Ancient India, Vedic Period): Red sandals evoked prosperity, fertility, and good fortune in Hindu rituals, serving as emblems of positive energies and social ceremonies.

Medieval Period (500–1500 CE)

• Europe (Byzantine Empire): Red boots symbolized imperial sovereignty, divine favor, and sacrifice, reserved for emperors as markers of hierarchical authority and influenced by earlier Roman traditions; extended to religious iconography, such as depictions of the Virgin Mary, emphasizing humility and royalty.
• Europe (Western Europe, Papal Tradition): Red papal shoes represented the blood of Christian martyrs and Christ's Passion, underscoring submission to divine authority and readiness for sacrifice; adopted from Byzantine influences, they embodied ecclesiastical power and continuity with early Church practices.
• Eastern Europe (Russia/Ukraine): Red boots denoted nobility and upper-class prestige, often tied to mythical or real symbols of status in medieval folklore and society.
• Asia (China, Song Dynasty): Red lotus shoes symbolized feminine refinement, marital prosperity, and virtue, linked to foot-binding practices and Buddhist motifs of purity and luck.
• Asia (India, Mughal Era Influences): Red footwear continued Vedic associations with auspiciousness, used in bridal rituals to invoke fertility and positive outcomes.
• South America (Inca, Moche, and Nazca, Peru): Red-dyed sandals signified elite status, power, and ritual vitality, often using cochineal dye to evoke blood and divine connections in ceremonial contexts.

Early Modern Period (1500–1800 CE)

• Europe (France and General Aristocracy): Red-heeled shoes embodied social power, exclusivity, and a shift in authority, popularized by figures like Louis XIV; they denoted nobility and were linked to themes of martyrdom and privilege in both secular and religious spheres.
• Europe (Papal Continuation): Red shoes maintained their religious symbolism of martyrdom and divine servitude, worn by popes to affirm continuity with ancient traditions amid evolving ecclesiastical practices.

Modern Period (1800 CE–Present)

• Europe (General Fashion and Folklore): Red shoes symbolized vanity, temptation, and redemption in literary contexts, as in Hans Christian Andersen's 1845 fairy tale, critiquing materialism and social hypocrisy; in religious settings, papal red shoes persisted as emblems of sacrifice, though adapted for humility by figures like Pope Francis.
• North America and Global (Cultural Adaptations): Red footwear represented empowerment and breaking barriers in women's history movements; in popular culture, such as the ruby slippers in *The Wizard of Oz* (1939), it evoked magic, protection, and identity; contemporary designs, like red-soled heels, signify passion and confidence.

This entry is the folklore significance of red shoes from my accumulated discussion. As a note, there is an element of the "puppet master" in Andersen's tale since the shoes were cursed by a soldier causing Karen to dance when she wore them.

European Folklore

In European traditions, red shoes frequently symbolize vanity, compulsion, and retribution, often serving as cautionary devices in fairy tales. The most prominent example is Hans Christian Andersen's 1845 tale "The Red Shoes," where the footwear represents unchecked pride and materialism. The protagonist, Karen, succumbs to an obsession with the shoes, leading to a curse of uncontrollable dancing that enforces divine punishment for neglecting spiritual and familial duties. This narrative culminates in themes of suffering, repentance, and redemption, critiquing societal hypocrisies and class disparities while aligning with Andersen's moralistic framework influenced by Lutheran principles.

Variations appear in Brothers Grimm collections, such as early versions of "Snow White," where the evil queen is forced to dance in red-hot iron shoes as a fatal penalty for her jealousy, emphasizing justice and moral consequence. In "The Juniper Tree" and the English tale "The Rose Tree," red shoes emerge as transformative gifts from avian incarnations of slain children, facilitating familial bonds and vengeance against antagonistic stepmothers. Maygar-Germanic folklore includes motifs like "The Devil's Dancing Shoes," suggesting infernal curses tied to red footwear, while early Russian renditions of "Vasilisa the Beautiful" portray red shoes or boots as protective or magical aids in encounters with figures like Baba Yaga, an archetypal crone.

North American Adaptations (Influenced by European Folklore)

In adaptations like the 1939 film *The Wizard of Oz*, red shoes—manifested as ruby slippers—carry folklore significance through associations with witches and magic. Originally silver in L. Frank Baum's novel, the film's red slippers belong to the Wicked Witch of the East and are bestowed upon Dorothy by Glinda, symbolizing protection, empowerment, and the journey toward self-realization. The Wicked Witch of the West's covetousness underscores themes of contested power and peril, blending European fairy tale elements with American cultural iconography to represent desire, autonomy, and resolution.

Asian Folklore (Chinese Traditions)

In Chinese folklore, particularly during the Song dynasty and later periods, red shoes are linked to bridal customs and foot-binding practices. Lotus shoes, often red and embroidered, symbolize virtue, marital prosperity, and feminine devotion, with brides creating them as tokens of commitment. However, they also appear in horror narratives, evoking compulsion and eerie consequences, paralleling European themes of entrapment and moral peril.

Across these contexts, red shoes consistently embody a duality: initial allure promising elevation or joy, often subverted into symbols of loss of control, societal critique, or supernatural intervention, reflecting universal human concerns with ambition and ethics.

Lastly, this section gets into the ritualistic aspects of red shoes in the Christian, Jewish, Islamic and Occult traditions. In the Christian (Catholic) faith, it is the most prevelent and documented, red shoes embody the stigmata of the feet. Red shoes don't have any significance in the Jewish and Islamic faiths and in the Occult, significance is speculative. Grok brought up the Red Shoe Club and Podesta.

Christian Rituals

In Christian traditions, particularly within Catholicism, red shoes are prominently associated with papal attire and symbolize the blood of Christ and the martyrs. The Pope's red leather shoes, known as "calceamenta rubra," trace their origins to Byzantine influences and have been worn since at least the 8th century. These shoes are not merely ornamental but embody a ritualistic reminder of the Pope's readiness to suffer for the faith, evoking the bloodshed of early Christian martyrs and Christ's Passion. During papal ceremonies, such as investitures or processions, the red shoes underscore the Pontiff's role as the Vicar of Christ, walking in the "bloodied footsteps" of Jesus. Notably, Pope Benedict XVI revived this tradition to emphasize continuity with historical papal practices, while Pope Francis opted for black shoes to signify humility and austerity, thereby adapting the ritual to modern emphases on service. In broader Christian liturgy, red vestments—including footwear in some historical contexts—are used during feasts of martyrs, Pentecost, and Good Friday, reinforcing themes of sacrifice and divine love.

Jewish Rituals

In Jewish traditions, footwear generally plays a role in rituals emphasizing humility, mourning, or separation from the mundane, but red shoes specifically appear in limited and often symbolic or historical contexts. On Yom Kippur and Tisha B'Av, Jews traditionally avoid leather shoes altogether, opting for non-leather alternatives like canvas sneakers or slippers to symbolize affliction and repentance. Red shoes do not hold a central ritualistic role, but historical accounts from medieval Europe describe discriminatory practices where Jewish women were forced to wear mismatched shoes—one black and one red—as a form of humiliation under antisemitic laws. This was part of broader efforts to degrade Jewish communities, alongside requirements for bells or badges. In Orthodox Jewish daily rituals, such as putting on shoes, there is a prescribed order—right shoe first, then left, with tying the left first—to align with kabbalistic principles of balancing mercy and judgment. However, color is not emphasized here. Some modern interpretations link red shoes to broader folklore or symbolism, but these lack direct ties to core Jewish rituals. Overall, red footwear in Judaism is more associated with external impositions or peripheral symbolism rather than intrinsic ritual practice.

Islamic Rituals

Islamic traditions regarding footwear focus on purity and humility, with red shoes having nuanced interpretations rather than central ritualistic roles. Muslims remove shoes before entering mosques or performing prayers to maintain cleanliness, as shoes are considered potentially impure. Regarding color, there is scholarly debate on wearing red garments or footwear for men: some hadiths prohibit plain red clothing due to associations with ostentation or imitation of non-Muslims, while others permit it if mixed with other colors. Hanbali scholars view pure red as makruh (discouraged) for men, but permissible for women or in non-plain forms. In rituals like the Hajj pilgrimage, participants often go barefoot or wear simple sandals, with no specific emphasis on red; royal family members reportedly do not adhere strictly to some customs, such as shaving heads or going shoeless. Dream interpretations in Islamic lore sometimes view red shoes as symbols of coquettishness or adornment for women, but this is not ritualistic. Red footwear may appear in Sufi or cultural contexts, but it lacks a standardized ritual significance in core Islamic practices.

Occult and Satanic Contexts

In occult and satanic symbolism, red shoes are often interpreted as emblems of power, sin, or ritual sacrifice, though much of this stems from folklore, literature, and modern conspiracy theories rather than verified practices. Historically, red footwear has been linked to themes of sexuality, temptation, and the devil in European folklore, as seen in tales where red shoes represent sinful indulgence or demonic compulsion. In occult narratives, red evokes fire, blood, and the infernal, potentially symbolizing ritualistic elements like human sacrifice or hidden elite societies. Conspiracy theories, popularized online, claim that a "Red Shoe Club" among elites— including celebrities and politicians—uses red shoes to signal involvement in satanic rituals, child trafficking, or cannibalism, with shoes allegedly made from human leather to conceal blood. These claims often reference figures like Tony Podesta and draw from unsubstantiated allegations, such as those amplified by actors like Macaulay Culkin, but lack empirical evidence and are widely regarded as baseless by mainstream sources. In contemporary satanic imagery, red shoes may symbolize disguise or power, as in cases like rapper Lil Nas X's "Satan Shoes," which incorporated human blood and pentagrams to provoke discussion on deception and evil. Such associations remain largely speculative and tied to cultural myths rather than documented rituals.

In conclusion, red footwear's ritualistic connections reflect a spectrum from sacred symbolism in Abrahamic faiths to darker, often conjectural interpretations in occult lore. While Christian usages are well-documented and theological, those in Judaism and Islam are more peripheral or restrictive, and occult/satanic links predominantly arise from unverified theories. Further scholarly inquiry into primary sources is recommended for nuanced understanding.

Shiny red shoes are not common at all. In folklore, shoes or slippers don't have to be red to have magical properties. The only thing I could say about the "Red Shoe Club" is that, based on history, these guys are flaunting their eliteness.