I´ve got a lecture from one parent today, on why am I letting my kids play outside with other children, giving me cause-effect display how they are virus transmitters etc.
When I tried to point him to read on i.e. WHO portal about last year flu season numbers worldwide, he said like: yes, but this is different.... :-(
That´s basically the same answer I get from all around - it´s different because: a lot more people is dying / it´s unknown virus / it will last for years / fill-in-the-gaps ...

And now we have official Merkel ban so I‘m pretty sure that they all will lock the kids inside....

As for panic; I haven‘t had those but I‘ve been having a lot of deja vu‘s.
Not even sure if it is a deja vu because I sometimes dream stuff that then happen in few months or years. I used to drem more but now only occasionally...
Anyway, I get deja vu every few days in last weeks....
 
From the elite mouth piece, The Sunday Times - never let a good crisis go to waste when it comes to dehumanizing and depopulating the planet:


Coronavirus can trigger a new industrial revolution
The disease could be the shock we need to harness new technology and new ways of working
Ed Conway

Thursday March 05 2020, 5.00pm GMT, The Times

Don’t take this the wrong way but if you were a young, hardline environmentalist looking for the ultimate weapon against climate change, you could hardly design anything better than coronavirus.

Unlike most other such diseases, it kills mostly the old who, let’s face it, are more likely to be climate sceptics. It spares the young. Most of all, it stymies the forces that have been generating greenhouse gases for decades. Deadly enough to terrify; containable enough that aggressive quarantine measures can prevent it from spreading. The rational response for any country determined to prevent loss of life is to follow China’s lead and lock down their economy to stem its spread.

And so airlines are cancelling flights; companies are scrapping travel. Factories in China and, presumably soon in Europe, are being mothballed. The chimneys which once belched smog into the skies of Beijing and Shenzhen are smoking no more. Perhaps you saw the satellite map produced by Nasa showing that pollution across China, usually visible in dense patches blanketing the country, has almost entirely gone.

Hardcore climate activists have long railed against economic growth and in the months ahead they may have their wish granted as GDP growth from China to Europe and the US is hammered by coronavirus.

Yet this would be no normal economic slump. It’s not as if most companies have become insolvent. It’s not as if the plumbing of the financial system is broken. Even if the outbreak triggers a recession one can expect the economy to bounce back in the coming quarters. Along the way some companies and households will be unable to keep things ticking over. What these companies need isn’t necessarily money but time: time to pay bills, time for affected staff to recover and for mothballed units to be restarted.

And since this is no normal economic crisis it’s not clear that any of the normal remedies like cuts in interest rates or taxes will help. Far better will be forensic measures to ensure those businesses and households temporarily unable to pay their bills are given time to pay.

One bold idea would be to set up a natural disasters insurance fund to support those who lose their jobs or their businesses as a result of this and future crises. America’s Federal Emergency Management Agency has something called Disaster Unemployment Assistance, which could provide a blueprint. And while the Bank of England can (and probably will) cut interest rates, far more important will be other below-the-radar schemes such as financial help for companies whose supply chains are fracturing.

Most downturns are Darwinian moments for capitalism: out go old, lumbering companies that failed to move with the times; in come their disruptive rivals in a blaze of creative destruction. Hardship focuses the mind, and companies find more efficient ways of running their businesses. The economy that emerges should be more productive than its predecessor. Yet in this crisis the opposite may be happening.

The most efficient, which is to say the cheapest, way companies have found of manufacturing products is to use supply chains that straddle the globe in search of cheap labour. If something could be made for less on the other side of the world, so be it.

Yet coronavirus, which threatens to constrain the free movement of people and goods, will deny companies this cheapest avenue. Companies will have to think long and hard about whether intercontinental supply chains make sense. Already some companies are shifting production back home and opting for home-built components.

On the one hand that spells enormous disruption and could make all our lives more expensive. Yet there is also a silver lining which need not only appeal to Extinction Rebellion. What if this is the nudge we need to embrace a new model of globalisation?

For the dirty secret about today’s economy is that it is actually a product of yesterday’s technologies: the foundation of just-in-time supply chains is software and internet connectivity. The ultimate energy source is fossil fuels, in ships and planes. Today’s new technologies — 3D printing, AI, robotics — could enable a very different form of globalisation. Combine them and it is possible, as the economist Richard Baldwin says, to imagine hotel rooms in London being cleaned by robots controlled by cleaners in Poland, or lawns in Texas mowed by robots steered by gardeners in Mexico.

Yet for all the hype, the industrial revolution driven by these technologies still feels a long way off. Many offices are not that different from their 1950s ancestors; much manufacturing revolves around factories and supply chains which, save for the fact that they are split between different countries, Henry Ford would feel at home in; 3D printing has taken the hearing aid sector by storm but is still an irrelevance in most parts of the manufacturing world.

But coronavirus is one of those shocks that could force business to take the leaps they were hitherto too nervous to make. When supply chains are down and households are quarantined, suddenly the fourth industrial revolution, or whatever you want to call it, looks a lot more attractive. When physical cash is spreading the virus, using electronic money seems far smarter. When travelling and mingling is a risk, working remotely could become the norm rather than an aberration. That this will all help to diminish carbon emissions is an added bonus.

Of course, it’s quite possible life returns to normal after coronavirus. But one consequence of this disease could be that it forces us to take a long hard look at the way we run the world, and change it.

Ed Conway is economics editor of Sky News


No thank you con-way!
 
Another thing that came to my mind when I read this article.

Как Китай преподал демократиям урок борьбы с коронавирусом

Unfortunately, I can’t find it in English.

Heading is :

When China announced in January that it would control the spread of coronavirus, many observers did not fail to note how difficult it would be to repeat such measures in democratic countries.

And the few statements:

How were democracies able to learn from China's infection control experience?


In few places, whether it’s a democratic or non-democratic country, you can have such an impact on society so deeply,” the expert said. “And this is not a compliment at all, given the human and social cost of such interference. But even if one of the democratic leaders will want to copy the Chinese approach, he simply does not have enough strength and power for this. "


So, that leads me to a though that I it may be sort of test, how it goes worldwide, how the public will reacts. Maybe sort of preparing us for totalitarian regime, new world order or whatever. Why PTB would loose and at the same time spend such a lot of money. China – communism; Germany/Italy – was under fascism not so long ago; Iran.

You see that They cannot falsified the result of how many people become ill because of coronavirus in China as they can do it in European countries, like Italy and Germany.
 
This is just anecdotal, but I knew a lot of people who got chest colds in November and just could not shake off the persistent cough/lung issues.

On a separate note, over the last 4-5 days I have had multiple daily instances of deja vu. Very weird feeling.

My 14 years old son told me the same thing. He had that he is having deja vu a few times per day in the last few days.
Since Sunday 15-03 I am feeling like I am sick. I have a feeling that I have a high temperature, but when I measure it with a thermometer it is normal. A feeling similar to a Reiki heat. I don't know how to describe it. It is not just temperature, it is a general feeling. I feel so strange, I can't describe it with words, I don't know how. I am in good health generally.
Maybe this sensation comes from the Wave. reality change, timeline change, I don't know, or just a stress reaction to all the madness.
 
Another thing that came to my mind when I read this article.

Как Китай преподал демократиям урок борьбы с коронавирусом

Unfortunately, I can’t find it in English.
...


In addition: why do They need to close the borders everywhere. Why do they need to that are in other countries to turn back to their own mother land. I don’t know about other countries, but 35000 of Ukrainians had to return back from abroad, nevertheless that EU is so “hospitable” for foreigners.

What leads me also that They want to see how different nation reacts to such a mass.
 
About Milgrams experiment and quarantines

Governments are in sympathy with its people, and people in sympathy with the government - ideally. So, as long as things are running smoothly, we are of coarse going to abide with each other to a degree. So when emergencies happen, it is understandable for people to yield to power measures - not out of fear, but because the scope of the problem is outside the scope of the individuals, and so if you can't trust your government, that is a problem in itself. Especially when information travels so fast, trust isn't the issue as much as they have to contend with the scrutiny.

Then the quarantines. What do we do everyday after a days work? We go home. That is our base. Then when a curfew/quarantine is instituted, we do what we would've done anyway, except is a little more stringent and mandatory. And people agree this is a good course of action, as they don't want to get sick or see it spread.

I worry that the lock downs are to keep people from heading for the hills, hence the need for lock downs. That's the only bad thing I can think of it - they're instituted for reasons unknown.
 
What do you think about making a separate thread of what is going on with coronavirus at your country/town? In order to know what is really going on.
 
Regarding the timeline vs that lady astrologer's videos.

USA July 3, 2019: The CDC halts research at Fort Detrick, citing “national security reasons” for not releasing information about its decision.

USA Jul 14, 2019: Chinese researcher escorted from infectious disease lab amid RCMP investigation. Public Health Agency of Canada describes it as a possible ‘policy breach,’ no risk to Canadian public. The first Chinese to discover or warn about the Covid-19 outbreak?


Interesting part starts at ~2:50

Also, in a later video she gave a wider picture of how 2020 was going to be like. I'm not into astrology at all but her readings kind of confirm my gut sensation that we have a cosmic factor affecting people's minds in disruptive manner right now, creating confusion, amplifying reactions and polarizing mindsets. (


Posting these 2 older videos as they came out months before the coronavirus affair came into public knowledge.
 
Here's a penicillin youtube. Made with cantalope and bread. I saw another one using an orange that says you can make a tea from it.
Uses: infections, cold and flues.


Sorry if someone already said this.
But i am reading this compleet tread, and not done yet, and its getting longer while i am reading.
And i just wanted to say this, before its mabey to late.
penicillin kills bacteria, not virusses, the only thing you do with this in lower your imuumsystem.
which is of course not smart now.
Take Echinacea, vitamins C and resistance-enhancing things.
 
This is just anecdotal, but I knew a lot of people who got chest colds in November and just could not shake off the persistent cough/lung issues.

On a separate note, over the last 4-5 days I have had multiple daily instances of deja vu. Very weird feeling.
I was ill as well quite often during the end of last year, which is unusual for me. And I'm having a lot of deja vu like feelings since a year or so.
 
Just for the info: the official reason they are locking down countries is based on the idea that even though 80% or more of people who contract the virus won't have any problems with it, some won't even know they have it, we all need to be 'quarantined' to prevent those who do become infected (upwards of 40% supposedly) will not by chance infect the vulnerable elderly who would then become very sick and need to be hospitalized, thereby overwhelming the health care system and creating unnecessary deaths.

That said, there is the problem of why such measures are not taken for the seasonal flu which poses a very serious risk to vulnerable elderly people every year and therefore the same risk of overwhelming health care systems. In fact, the number of people who die from the common flu every winter season (the large majority of them elderly with serious health conditions) is at least 10 times the number of deaths from covid-19. So why have these deaths not caused the same health care crisis every year?

Any explanations?

Whatever the case, there is the unfortunate coincidence (I suppose) that hundreds of millions of people in Western nations are being conditioned to accept very draconian restrictions on their basic civil freedoms..."for the greater good". While that may not be intended, it is still the objective end result. And obviously, everyone with any sense should be disturbed by that.
 
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