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The Force is Strong With This One
Hello all,
First and foremost, a big thanx to all those who contribute in putting up such a resourceful forum… and a SOTT website, and cassiopaea.org, and… well, all of it! (I didn't take the time to introduce myself in the appropriate section of the forum, so I'm thanking here instead.)
That being said, I'll try to be as brief as possible though it won’t be easy. I’m in need of a little guidance, advice and/or sharing of your own experiences in this matter.
I undertook to experiment with a spirit board (of my own conception) specifically in order to do spirit release. This was mostly based on the following exchange with the Cs, made on may 25th 2008 :
Now, I did a lot of reading beforehand (Fiore, Baldwin and the likes), took notes, even draw a flow chart for questioning (differential diagnosis) and guiding lost spirits into the light so that I did not venture into this before having a very clear idea of what I was doing. I do this work alone for two main reasons 1) I don’t have anybody in my surroundings that is remotely interested or serious enough about this and 2) because the main idea was to achieve spirit release on myself in the first place so that I could be “clean” enough to do it for others. At this point, I’d like to note that I do not want to do “channeling” per see. Releasing lost spirits into the light is beneficial for the spirit itself and for the person coping with the attachement. This is the area I want to work in without being involved any sort of trance or hypnotism nor “channeling” of “higher beings”.
When I undertook the experience almost a year ago (I did have to try often and persist before anything happened at all), I was taken by surprise when the first contact I got was supposedly a 4D STO being. But almost only garbage would come out of this contact (unreadable aggregates of letters) and it took a lot of my energy and time for it would “turn around” the letters anticlockwise several times before answering questions or spewing out garbage. I was not impressed by this “4D STO” thing as I knew and understood that “dragons like to eat us with ketchup”, you know. So I continued the experiment, sometimes up to three times a week and finally reached a point where I encountered lost spirits in need of the information I had, i.e. :
So I did 10 or so of these “releasing into the light” procedure successfully although the lost spirits weren’t attached to anybody. On the last occasion, the spirit even knew I was alive and that it was not and asked for the light and it thanked me before saying goodbye once I got it there. This is what I need/want to do with a board type instrument.
Now comes the though part for which I need assistance and open up a discussion. My problem is this “Axevog” entity that keeps making those spirals, that talks garbage and that hinders me in my work. It is persistent, always there and consistently disrupting (taking over) standard spirit communications for releasing. I tried many things. I asked it politely to withdraw and let me finish with the lost spirit I was “talking” to. I even twice “aggressively” told it to scram, to go away and leave me alone. I tried the approach of stating facts about its communications being only garbage and time wasting and asked for it to come when it learned to communicate properly. I tried both being nice and being nasty, but to no avail. It supposedly is an entity (according to its own answers) that never had a physical body, is an “egregore” and is taking orders from “others” (thus one of its first answer being “I serve others”) and having contacts with me is part of its “orders”. From who? It won’t tell. Pretty inconvenient entity to have on a board, I must admit.
Now, two days ago, I did my best : I “talked” to the entity trying to make it remember it’s birth, so to speak, trying to get it to its farthest memory of “being” and as with Baldwin’s approach, I made it see the “light of its birth” (rather than the one of its death). It told me it was afraid, but I convinced it (like I do with lost spirits who fear hell or other things) to just be curious about it, get a feel of it, etc. I finally sent it to the light, it even told me “Thank you, goodbye”. I was sooooo relieved about this, but somehow I really doubted it actually worked.
And so, yesterday, out of curiosity, I did another session. The result? The entity was back. I asked if it went to the light and it said “No”. Asking why, it replied “Ruse”. So as you can all see, I’m “stuck” with this entity/energy and do not know what to do with it. Of course :
So, in a sense it’s a “good” thing because this is precisely the direction in which I’m working towards to. Only problem is, it is not a disincarnate that can be talked to go into the light and I’m out of resources here. I am not ready to stop the experiment “just” because of that as :
So I come here in hoping to find help and open a discussion on this precise topic as I did not see it developed anywhere else on this forum (I may be mistaken, though). I think this is a very important aspect of using a tool such as a spirit board, but I can’t seem to find any more data on this particular aspect of such a work. How does one release himself or herself from such an entity?
I’m sorry about the length of this post, but it was difficult not to include some background.
I’m really looking forward to getting some feedback on this issue and hopefully open up a discussion that will help all who venture into spirit release using a board type instrument.
Thank you all in advance for your time an inputs.
First and foremost, a big thanx to all those who contribute in putting up such a resourceful forum… and a SOTT website, and cassiopaea.org, and… well, all of it! (I didn't take the time to introduce myself in the appropriate section of the forum, so I'm thanking here instead.)
That being said, I'll try to be as brief as possible though it won’t be easy. I’m in need of a little guidance, advice and/or sharing of your own experiences in this matter.
I undertook to experiment with a spirit board (of my own conception) specifically in order to do spirit release. This was mostly based on the following exchange with the Cs, made on may 25th 2008 :
Q: (L) I have the idea that we should make a video to show people how to safely and effectively use a board-type instrument to work through their issues, to find out what's lurking in their own subconscious mind, possibly to do spirit release therapy on themselves (one of the few ways it can be done), and just in general to bring some light to the topic of using a board-type instrument as a means for self-development. What do you think about this idea?
A: 5 of us think it is stupendous!!!
Now, I did a lot of reading beforehand (Fiore, Baldwin and the likes), took notes, even draw a flow chart for questioning (differential diagnosis) and guiding lost spirits into the light so that I did not venture into this before having a very clear idea of what I was doing. I do this work alone for two main reasons 1) I don’t have anybody in my surroundings that is remotely interested or serious enough about this and 2) because the main idea was to achieve spirit release on myself in the first place so that I could be “clean” enough to do it for others. At this point, I’d like to note that I do not want to do “channeling” per see. Releasing lost spirits into the light is beneficial for the spirit itself and for the person coping with the attachement. This is the area I want to work in without being involved any sort of trance or hypnotism nor “channeling” of “higher beings”.
When I undertook the experience almost a year ago (I did have to try often and persist before anything happened at all), I was taken by surprise when the first contact I got was supposedly a 4D STO being. But almost only garbage would come out of this contact (unreadable aggregates of letters) and it took a lot of my energy and time for it would “turn around” the letters anticlockwise several times before answering questions or spewing out garbage. I was not impressed by this “4D STO” thing as I knew and understood that “dragons like to eat us with ketchup”, you know. So I continued the experiment, sometimes up to three times a week and finally reached a point where I encountered lost spirits in need of the information I had, i.e. :
Q: (J) Is there ever a case where using a board could attract an entity that wasn't there beforehand? That seems to be the key question...
A: Yes, if the individual is knowledgeable and the entity needs help.
So I did 10 or so of these “releasing into the light” procedure successfully although the lost spirits weren’t attached to anybody. On the last occasion, the spirit even knew I was alive and that it was not and asked for the light and it thanked me before saying goodbye once I got it there. This is what I need/want to do with a board type instrument.
Now comes the though part for which I need assistance and open up a discussion. My problem is this “Axevog” entity that keeps making those spirals, that talks garbage and that hinders me in my work. It is persistent, always there and consistently disrupting (taking over) standard spirit communications for releasing. I tried many things. I asked it politely to withdraw and let me finish with the lost spirit I was “talking” to. I even twice “aggressively” told it to scram, to go away and leave me alone. I tried the approach of stating facts about its communications being only garbage and time wasting and asked for it to come when it learned to communicate properly. I tried both being nice and being nasty, but to no avail. It supposedly is an entity (according to its own answers) that never had a physical body, is an “egregore” and is taking orders from “others” (thus one of its first answer being “I serve others”) and having contacts with me is part of its “orders”. From who? It won’t tell. Pretty inconvenient entity to have on a board, I must admit.
Now, two days ago, I did my best : I “talked” to the entity trying to make it remember it’s birth, so to speak, trying to get it to its farthest memory of “being” and as with Baldwin’s approach, I made it see the “light of its birth” (rather than the one of its death). It told me it was afraid, but I convinced it (like I do with lost spirits who fear hell or other things) to just be curious about it, get a feel of it, etc. I finally sent it to the light, it even told me “Thank you, goodbye”. I was sooooo relieved about this, but somehow I really doubted it actually worked.
And so, yesterday, out of curiosity, I did another session. The result? The entity was back. I asked if it went to the light and it said “No”. Asking why, it replied “Ruse”. So as you can all see, I’m “stuck” with this entity/energy and do not know what to do with it. Of course :
A: Those kinds of entities are around a lot of people, they just don't know it unless they interact in a way that removes the veil and exposes the fact.
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Q: (L) So you're saying that what people most often encounter in these exercises will be attached entities that they don't even know are in residence in their space? Is that it?
A: Yes.
So, in a sense it’s a “good” thing because this is precisely the direction in which I’m working towards to. Only problem is, it is not a disincarnate that can be talked to go into the light and I’m out of resources here. I am not ready to stop the experiment “just” because of that as :
Q: (L) So, anybody who encounters something really yucky and wants to throw the board away has just thrown away probably one of the best methods for finding out about this entity and helping to get rid of it. Is that it?
A: Yes.
So I come here in hoping to find help and open a discussion on this precise topic as I did not see it developed anywhere else on this forum (I may be mistaken, though). I think this is a very important aspect of using a tool such as a spirit board, but I can’t seem to find any more data on this particular aspect of such a work. How does one release himself or herself from such an entity?
I’m sorry about the length of this post, but it was difficult not to include some background.
I’m really looking forward to getting some feedback on this issue and hopefully open up a discussion that will help all who venture into spirit release using a board type instrument.
Thank you all in advance for your time an inputs.