Spirit release through "ouija" board - advice needed
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emilien512
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Why not being attached to such an extent that you could loose control and your body changing appearance? (e.g shapeshifting)
emilien512 said:
I think we have a thread on the Exorcist, but the best works to read to understand possession and what might or might not manifest, would be Malachi Martin's "Hostage to the Devil". I would advise everyone who wants to play with such things to read this book first.
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emilien512
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This is making me think about the C's who said in a session that some individuals are bio-engineered for this "master race", having a bi-density body, in such individual, this extreme possession could be possible, pulling the host soul out of control. Like in stargate sg-1 :) when a goauld take control of one's body at will and having the ability to make the host forget that he is being controlled.
Just quickly saying.
Just quickly saying.
Just looked up Hostage to the Devil by Malachi Martin. Sounds like a great book. Read also he was permitted to leave the Jesuit order, which is interesting in it's self.
As for possession, I believe I encountered a "dark force" of some kind when I was falling into depression, around a year and a half ago. I lived in a room which was a large attick bedroom. All the angles in the room we're off - in fact the whole house was on a kind of slope. Non of the beams on the roof, nor the walls, were symetrical. I liked the room at first, but soon it started making me feel uneasy. Not blaming this all on the room, and I supose it could be suggested I was looking for something to blame. But I definatley feel it contributed to my illness.
Anyway, I was out of work and the band I had been in for 5 years had come to an end. I think these were factors contributing to the depression, and I was also really anxious about the end of the band effecting friendships, etc. I started loosing serious amounts of sleep, which went on for 3-4 monthes. I couldn't function. I woke up many a time in the night with a feeling of utter dread, I'd feel helpless, and would start reading books at "random" from my self, just picking a page and deciphering a kind of "message" which I thought was meant for myself. Thankfully my close family live in the same city, so I stayed with my brother for some of the time, which eased the negative feelings. But then I'd realise that I'd have to return to the room, and the dread and sadness would return. When I eventually did get a job in a office at the University (administration), I was so delirious because of the sleep deprivation/weird thoughts, I couldn't even complete the work properly. II lasted a week, they asked me to leave because they knew I was having some kind of "emotional problems" and they understood, but they needed someone to be more efficiant. I didn't hold this against them, but it was I genuinly thought I'd done some kind of perminant damage to my psyche - that I would stay in this almost "trace" like state.
Anyway, things got worse and I was eventually hospitalised (I might go into that later, I've written a load of stuff about it, retrospectivley). Thankfully I'm much better now and if there was an "attachment" of sorts, it led go of it's grip when I started taking charge physical health as well as attemtping to address my mental state.
Realise this is slightly off-topic and not really of any help in terms of advice. Just thought I would share it.
As for possession, I believe I encountered a "dark force" of some kind when I was falling into depression, around a year and a half ago. I lived in a room which was a large attick bedroom. All the angles in the room we're off - in fact the whole house was on a kind of slope. Non of the beams on the roof, nor the walls, were symetrical. I liked the room at first, but soon it started making me feel uneasy. Not blaming this all on the room, and I supose it could be suggested I was looking for something to blame. But I definatley feel it contributed to my illness.
Anyway, I was out of work and the band I had been in for 5 years had come to an end. I think these were factors contributing to the depression, and I was also really anxious about the end of the band effecting friendships, etc. I started loosing serious amounts of sleep, which went on for 3-4 monthes. I couldn't function. I woke up many a time in the night with a feeling of utter dread, I'd feel helpless, and would start reading books at "random" from my self, just picking a page and deciphering a kind of "message" which I thought was meant for myself. Thankfully my close family live in the same city, so I stayed with my brother for some of the time, which eased the negative feelings. But then I'd realise that I'd have to return to the room, and the dread and sadness would return. When I eventually did get a job in a office at the University (administration), I was so delirious because of the sleep deprivation/weird thoughts, I couldn't even complete the work properly. II lasted a week, they asked me to leave because they knew I was having some kind of "emotional problems" and they understood, but they needed someone to be more efficiant. I didn't hold this against them, but it was I genuinly thought I'd done some kind of perminant damage to my psyche - that I would stay in this almost "trace" like state.
Anyway, things got worse and I was eventually hospitalised (I might go into that later, I've written a load of stuff about it, retrospectivley). Thankfully I'm much better now and if there was an "attachment" of sorts, it led go of it's grip when I started taking charge physical health as well as attemtping to address my mental state.
Realise this is slightly off-topic and not really of any help in terms of advice. Just thought I would share it.
I still slip back occasionally, but it doesn't go on for weeks, monthes on end like it did. Usually just a bad day but everyone has them.
The "supernatural" element of my illness was incredibly hard to articulate to family, friends, not to mention doctors. They thought it was symptomatic, but I suppose because we are conditioned to think that way these days. Even if i talk about it now, they think it's a sign I am ill again. So I learn to live in my head. In a healthy way though... I think
As I say I'm much better now and I do strongly believe that one can arm themselves with self knowledge and knowledge in general.
The "supernatural" element of my illness was incredibly hard to articulate to family, friends, not to mention doctors. They thought it was symptomatic, but I suppose because we are conditioned to think that way these days. Even if i talk about it now, they think it's a sign I am ill again. So I learn to live in my head. In a healthy way though... I think
As I say I'm much better now and I do strongly believe that one can arm themselves with self knowledge and knowledge in general.
Palinurus
The Living Force
Hi lewis_86 and welcome to the forum.
Thanks for sharing your story which I definitely can relate to as I went through something similar about 25 years ago. I wasn't really hospitalized but it went close. Suffered a serious burn out, had a period of severe depression and a hefty midlife crisis all wrapped into one. I had to move first before having any chance to rebuild myself all over from scratch which I eventually succeeded doing.
Anyway, since you're new around here I thought you probably might benefit from reading the topic Depression as a stepping stone (to Soul growth) which can be found here: http://cassiopaea.org/forum/index.php/topic,2832.0.html
Hope this helps a bit. :)
Thanks for sharing your story which I definitely can relate to as I went through something similar about 25 years ago. I wasn't really hospitalized but it went close. Suffered a serious burn out, had a period of severe depression and a hefty midlife crisis all wrapped into one. I had to move first before having any chance to rebuild myself all over from scratch which I eventually succeeded doing.
Anyway, since you're new around here I thought you probably might benefit from reading the topic Depression as a stepping stone (to Soul growth) which can be found here: http://cassiopaea.org/forum/index.php/topic,2832.0.html
Hope this helps a bit. :)
Thanks for the link, Palinurus. Will endeavor to read some of it tomorrow at work :)
I've heard it said that depression is the "devils disease". I thought I literally was evil at one point, for a while. I'm no angel, but I realise now that this belief simply wasn't/isn't true. All I can describe it as being, is somehow an antithesis of a "spiritual awakening", combined with (in my case) what they call psychosis, which for me was like a form of madness - going between delirious and zombie.
I still resent the fact I ever opened up to "professionals", and I even experienced some (by no means all) the nurses being quite dismissive of the answers I had to their questions. One even suggested I was "making it up". This only intensified the feeling that I was actually in a living nightmare. I'm glad we have a system in place in the UK to help people with metal health problems, and I believe there are good people who do help others, but there is vast scope for improvements. At this stage I couldn't say exactly how, it's just a feelings I have. I dislike the fact it's all on record, but I suppose that's the price you pay for opening up.
I've heard it said that depression is the "devils disease". I thought I literally was evil at one point, for a while. I'm no angel, but I realise now that this belief simply wasn't/isn't true. All I can describe it as being, is somehow an antithesis of a "spiritual awakening", combined with (in my case) what they call psychosis, which for me was like a form of madness - going between delirious and zombie.
I still resent the fact I ever opened up to "professionals", and I even experienced some (by no means all) the nurses being quite dismissive of the answers I had to their questions. One even suggested I was "making it up". This only intensified the feeling that I was actually in a living nightmare. I'm glad we have a system in place in the UK to help people with metal health problems, and I believe there are good people who do help others, but there is vast scope for improvements. At this stage I couldn't say exactly how, it's just a feelings I have. I dislike the fact it's all on record, but I suppose that's the price you pay for opening up.
Gaolea
Padawan Learner
Wow! this subject was very helpful for me nya!!
I am in the same place of u...at least what concerns doing the session alone...
Nobody wanna do the session with me: (all the people i meet thinks this is a demonic thing or something like that.
I dont want to do it alone, I have heard many people include master Laura there is highly recommended not do it alone, but well listen to you... Perhaps is not so bad: 3
U help me a lot thank very much :)
I am in the same place of u...at least what concerns doing the session alone...
Nobody wanna do the session with me: (all the people i meet thinks this is a demonic thing or something like that.
I dont want to do it alone, I have heard many people include master Laura there is highly recommended not do it alone, but well listen to you... Perhaps is not so bad: 3
U help me a lot thank very much :)
Zadius Sky
The Living Force
Gaolea said:
I had the same question as Shijing - my impression is that you want to do a channeling session (since you already seem to have asked people to "do it" with you) and now that it's "not so bad" after reading this thread, which implies doing it alone? I understand that this is a language barrier, but I hope you could clarify.
I've just looked through your posts and you haven't mentioned it - I'm just wondering if you had a chance to read the books on the psychology recommended list or are doing the EE program?
Gaolea said:
Laura does not recommend anyone using a ouija board until they have read everything there is to read on channeling and gotten their own mental hygiene cleaned up. That means doing the Work in one way or another.
Messing around with a ouija board is nothing to be taken light-heartedly.
Laura spent years learning all she could about channeling and her own mental hygiene. Have you?
If not, I'd leave it alone.
Using a ouija board when you are not ready can end up with you actually getting attachments, among other things.
Did you read what Laura said above?
Laura said:
Gaolea
Padawan Learner
Nienna said:
Oh yeah! maybe i misunderstanding, what i wanted to say is im not ready to use the ouija board alone or do a session alone, i feel in that way , i feel there i not prepare yet , and yes i already read so many books of channellings and esoterism and many things include the wave and adventure Cs, about cleaning my mind well im in progress of do tht still i have a long way to go, about my diet well i have any im thinking about to start one
I know Master Laura is a profesional in this area, she spend many year of her life study in this manners that why i say too there im not ready yet
Oh! sorry for my writing I'm working on it nya! xD
