2009 Crop Circles

[JEEP]

Now, go back to the hummingbird picture (I haven't learn yet how to copy picture from one post to a new one,) see the 3 circles under the bird, look like an eclipse to me.

Coincidence???
http://www.sott.net/articles/show/188495-Skies-ready-for-triple-eclipse

Commencing Tuesday, three eclipses - a lunar eclipse, a solar eclipse and another lunar - will take over the skies, a phenomenon which although experts say is not rare, will nevertheless be nature's grand spectacle.

Maybe it's all the reading I've been doing on the mandatory "Swine-flu" vaccine, but this one almost looks like a distorted syringe of sorts.

Yes, the hummingbird does rather look like a dart! :O

 

[shijing]

I was just wondering if anyone is taking the prediction for a coronal mass ejection tomorrow (based on recent crop formations) seriously? The idea has been touted quite a bit on _earthfiles.com_ (visit that site if you want to read up on what I am talking about -- there are several articles related to this prediction on the main page). If there really is a CME in the offing, I read somewhere (I wish I could remember where) that computer chips can be protected by wrapping aluminum foil around computers, cell phones, etc. Does anyone (especially anyone who knows more about astrophysics than I do) have an opinion about this?

 

[rs]

I read somewhere (I wish I could remember where) that computer chips can be protected by wrapping aluminum foil around computers, cell phones, etc.

This is less about astrophysics and more about simple electrical engineering. A CME will impact terrestrial electrical and electronic systems primarily by magnetic induction. In this case, the longer the wire, the higher the induced voltage. Damage to electronic equipment would come about largely by having these induced voltage spikes (from overhead wires of all sorts, particularly power lines) propagating to the device in question.

Modern electrical systems have surge protectors, but the issue with a large CME is that the voltage spike and duration could overwhelm the surge protection.

No, aluminum foil will not protect electronic devices because it is not magnetic. It would protect stuff from electrostatic discharge.

If you want to protect your electronics, you should have surge protectors on everything. (I probably am on the outer fringe of this, I have at least 8 surge protectors in my home).

However the bottom line is if the power grid melts, it won't matter that you protected your computer...

 

[rrraven]

I was just wondering if anyone is taking the prediction for a coronal mass ejection tomorrow (based on recent crop formations) seriously?

Yes I am.I have asked a electrician friend and spoke to someone whose house had a direct lightning hit once .I will be unplugging all appliances from the wall tonight...even the fridge and the freezer!
Australia will be on the night side and

from wikipedia Impact of a CME

When the ejection reaches the Earth as an ICME (Interplanetary CME), it may disrupt the Earth's magnetosphere, compressing it on the day side and extending the night-side tail. When the magnetosphere reconnects on the nightside, it creates trillions of watts of power which is directed back toward the Earth's upper atmosphere. This process can cause particularly strong aurora also known as the Northern Lights, or aurora borealis (in the Northern Hemisphere), and the Southern Lights, or aurora australis (in the Southern Hemisphere). CME events, along with solar flares, can disrupt radio transmissions, cause power outages (blackouts), and cause damage to satellites and electrical transmission lines.

so I rather be safe than sorry...if nothing more than some pretty southern lights happen...sweet

 

[anart]

I was just wondering if anyone is taking the prediction for a coronal mass ejection tomorrow (based on recent crop formations) seriously? The idea has been touted quite a bit on _earthfiles.com_ (visit that site if you want to read up on what I am talking about -- there are several articles related to this prediction on the main page). If there really is a CME in the offing, I read somewhere (I wish I could remember where) that computer chips can be protected by wrapping aluminum foil around computers, cell phones, etc. Does anyone (especially anyone who knows more about astrophysics than I do) have an opinion about this?

Well, considering this prediction is based on interpretations of crop circles, and that pretty much every single prediction ever made about large events on such and such a day have proven to be false, I don't personally take it seriously at all. I'm not saying it is not possible, just that we can look at the past twenty years and see thousands of predictions tied to a specific date and see the results. Perhaps what they've interpreted as CME from the crop circle patterns are actually images of a cometary fragment impact. Disinformation is everywhere.

And, if all electronics are fried tomorrow, you'll know that I'm thinking, hmmm, I should have taken that prediction more seriously, while I can't type that to you on the forum. My guess is that come Wednesday, we'll all still be able to type on the forum. However, as always, 'wait and see'! ;)

 

[shijing]

This is less about astrophysics and more about simple electrical engineering. A CME will impact terrestrial electrical and electronic systems primarily by magnetic induction. In this case, the longer the wire, the higher the induced voltage. Damage to electronic equipment would come about largely by having these induced voltage spikes (from overhead wires of all sorts, particularly power lines) propagating to the device in question.

If you want to protect your electronics, you should have surge protectors on everything. (I probably am on the outer fringe of this, I have at least 8 surge protectors in my home).

However the bottom line is if the power grid melts, it won't matter that you protected your computer...

Thanks, rs, for the quick response. If nothing else, this will save me some aluminum foil ;)

Yes I am.I have asked a electrician friend and spoke to someone whose house had a direct lightning hit once .I will be unplugging all appliances from the wall tonight...even the fridge and the freezer!

Yes -- maybe a good idea just in case -- between the surge protectors suggested by rs and unplugging the unnecessaries, that is probably about as prepared as you can get it sounds like.

Well, considering this prediction is based on interpretations of crop circles, and that pretty much every single prediction ever made about large events on such and such a day have proven to be false, I don't personally take it seriously at all. I'm not saying it is not possible, just that we can look at the past twenty years and see thousands of predictions tied to a specific date and see the results. Perhaps what they've interpreted as CME from the crop circle patterns are actually images of a cometary fragment impact. Disinformation is everywhere.

And, if all electronics are fried tomorrow, you'll know that I'm thinking, hmmm, I should have taken that prediction more seriously, while I can't type that to you on the forum. My guess is that come Wednesday, we'll all still be able to type on the forum. However, as always, 'wait and see'! ;)

OK, just in case this prediction is correct I will know what you are thinking even if I can't read it once the grid goes down ;D I have to admit I don't really know what to think -- for the reasons you give above, I am skeptical on the one hand. On the other, I'm really wondering about this because its based on crop circle data (potentially 6D), discussed on Linda Moulton Howe's site (although she may not always succeed, she seems to do her best to sift wheat from chaff), and there was already one CME on June 21 and the weird sunspot activity yesterday and today. Nevertheless, the forum may very well be here at the end of tomorrow, no harm done (I hope!). So yes, 'wait and see'!

 

[Freelancer]

Hi Freelancer - just a note that you seem to have a tendency to speak in absolutes about this topic, when there is no way you can know such a thing. 'Only one thing' and 'quite obvious it represents' are not accurate statements, simply because you cannot know such a thing.

Often when one learns to keep conclusions open, in word and thought, they become much more open to the larger picture of everything. For this reason, it might be beneficial to you to self-observe a bit and work on stating things (and stating them internally) in a more open manner.

This tends to apply to Laurentien as well, as he tends to declare that a person is 'right' in their observations - when the very simple fact of the matter is that such a thing cannot be known for certain, unless one is the creator of the pattern. So stating 'you are right' or 'can only mean one thing' really misses the objective mark at this point in 'time' when we are not the creators of the patterns, be they human, 6D thought forms, 4D STS, or a combination. I'm not saying that impressions aren't worthwhile, they are - just that keeping an open mind and stating possibilities is the way to go, as opposed to stating ones impressions as fact. fwiw.

Thank you for your advice, I really appreciate it.

I didn't realize my posts could be understood that way.

But, at this moment, I must very clearly state that I am very aware of everything you said. I am aware that we cannot be absolutely certain about crop circle's meanings, because we did not create them.
But, I also thought it to be quite clear that when I (or anyone) give an opinion about a crop circle, it is just an IDEA to be considered when interpreting them - and that, by all means, does not mean it has to be the right idea.
It is a "food for thought", and I am aware I could be wrong.
So, I apologize if anyone thinks I am speaking in absolute terms - that was not the intention.
However, you are right about that quoted post of mine - I expressed myself in a wrong way, and that was probably the source of this misunderstanding.

Anyway, to get back on topic, I am attempting to make some sense of the numbers of that last crop circle, but so far I get nothing meaningful...
But, maybe a different numeric system should be used (with a different base, perhaps 20).

 

[Laurentien2]

Thank Jeep and Namaste for your patience, now I see, said the blind men.

http://www.cassiopaea.org/images/cropa11.gif


when I first looked the first picture, it reminded me of the train CC (click on the link to visualize it), I don't know why!

 

[Marcus-Aurelius]

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Quote from: JEEP on Yesterday at 01:26:30 PM
Quote from: Laurentien
Now, go back to the hummingbird picture (I haven't learn yet how to copy picture from one post to a new one,) see the 3 circles under the bird, look like an eclipse to me.





Maybe it's all the reading I've been doing on the mandatory "Swine-flu" vaccine, but this one almost looks like a distorted syringe of sorts.

Ryan

This picture reminds me a Nazca geoglyph. Have a synchronicity here: was just thinking to post a question, in " Question for the C's" thread, on the purpose and authors of these patterns in Nazca yesterday and have discovered this crop circle today. Intend first to extensively check if this has not already been discussed extensively somewhere in the forum.

 

[rs]

Well, this is going to be a bit "off the wall" (pun intended).

I just put together that there is this prediction for today's CME at 1700 UTC (see the link provided by shijing), which just happens to be 10 AM PDT, the time when Michael Jackson's memorial at the Staples Center in Los Angeles is scheduled to start.

Michael Jackson's memorial and a CME. What a way to go out "with a bang".

 

[shijing]

Well, it is safely past 1700 UTC and (un)fortunately the Michael Jackson memorial went on without any help from the sun to shake things up, so it looks like Anart was right about this. I also feel duly chastened after reading George Ure's blog post (entitled 'World NOT Ending Today') here:

_http://www.urbansurvival.com/blog/_

I can't help but wonder what the to-do was about -- innocent mistake? An attempt to discredit Earthfiles? The Cs described the crop formations as an 'almanac' in one session, and I still hope that someone somehow figures out how to interpret the almanac, but in the meantime lesson learned for today (and aluminum foil saved -- thanks again rs!)

 

[Marcus-Aurelius]

The Cs described the crop formations as an 'almanac' in one session, and I still hope that someone somehow figures out how to interpret the almanac

Recall a session during which Ark has been asked by the C's and was working on a logiciel to "read" message contained in crop-circles or something like that. Is something resulted from this work?

 

[Freelancer]

Thank Jeep and Namaste for your patience, now I see, said the blind men.

http://www.cassiopaea.org/images/cropa11.gif


when I first looked the first picture, it reminded me of the train CC (click on the link to visualize it), I don't know why!

Maybe this crop circle is related to astronomy or astrology?

In astronomy (and maybe astrology), the symbol for the Sun is a circle with a dot inside.
Here we have three such symbols, two of which are connected.

Perhaps the two connected "suns" represent the sun in 3D and 4D? Or some binary star system?

 

[Freelancer]

There are claims that the hummingbird crop circle is man made...
Check out the following link:

_http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread479901

 

[anart]

There are claims that the hummingbird crop circle is man made...
Check out the following link:

_http://www.abovetopsecret.com

The hummingbird crop circle may or may not be man made, but one thing is certain - 'abovetopsecret' is a disinformation site. If you use the search function, you can get up to speed on the information regarding that site and why it should be avoided.