2012 Crop Circles

[loreta]

On another note loreta, I would suggest that you consider reading the material presented on the website. Lot of infos about dreams, crop circles and virtually every aspect of our 'reality'. Amazing stuff.

Dreams in my opinion are literally the reflect of what's going on with your life. Both positive and negative things. As one member have already said here, it represents the 'dynamics of your life'. So it includes you own inner feelings, struggles, difficulties, fears but also your interaction with other people and such. It can be obvious within the dream or more symbolic hence the utility of interpreting it. Just a piece of advise here.

I'm not trying to tell you what to do here but I think you might find it pretty interesting and especially useful.

Once you peak into the world of the unknown, it can become literally 'addictive'. :P

Learning sure is fun!

Yes, you are right. I have to learn so much!

What a mean is this: for example I dream about a turtle. I can say: the turtle maybe is there because I am slow, or I feel old, etc. this is for me interpret a turtle in my dream. But if I look just a the turtle and ask: what this turtle is telling me? Without analyzing this turtle mentally but just looking at her, her colors, her form, her presence and asking her: why did you come in my dream? What are you telling by your presence? And maybe if I silence my mind and just ear in a respectful silence, maybe the turtle will talk to me during the day, of during the week, or give me an insight ad then I will know why this turtle has come to my dream, this part of me that is a turtle.

It is true when I say looking for symbols is a sort of interpretation. But I have the impression that looking a symbol is more looking at something very profound, something as profound as humanity. So if I see a crop that seems to me a spider or a snake I can look what this symbol of a snake means for humanity through history before trying to analyse why there is a crop with the form of a snake and why now and try to find reasons or situations, etc. The crop by itself is a beautiful image per se, what it is saying to us? What is this snake doing here? Why a snake?

Maybe I confuse terms, English is always very complicated for me to express my ideas that are also questions that I ask myself.

 

[Gonzo]

I think I understand what you mean, loreta. They seem like two separate processes, with one as a form of thinking and the other more of a form of inspiration. However, the verb, interpret, actually means to explain the meaning of something, regardless of the process involved. So, it seems to have more to do with communicating meaning after figuring it out.

So, while some people may seem to come to an understanding through the use of rational thought and exploration of patterns we have stored in our memory, another may silence the thinking part of the mind and appear to draw from their unconcious (or the collective unconcious), and both approaches are not only valid, but when combined, may actually cover more ground.

What I don't know is if we really do tap into something beyond the reach of our thinking mind when we meditate upon a symbol or if we are merely finding another way of accessing the same source of information already in our minds. Perhaps all roads lead to the same place.

Gonzo

 

[Deleted member 8431]

Yes, you are right. I have to learn so much!

What a mean is this: for example I dream about a turtle. I can say: the turtle maybe is there because I am slow, or I feel old, etc. this is for me interpret a turtle in my dream. But if I look just a the turtle and ask: what this turtle is telling me? Without analyzing this turtle mentally but just looking at her, her colors, her form, her presence and asking her: why did you come in my dream? What are you telling by your presence? And maybe if I silence my mind and just ear in a respectful silence, maybe the turtle will talk to me during the day, of during the week, or give me an insight ad then I will know why this turtle has come to my dream, this part of me that is a turtle.

It is true when I say looking for symbols is a sort of interpretation. But I have the impression that looking a symbol is more looking at something very profound, something as profound as humanity. So if I see a crop that seems to me a spider or a snake I can look what this symbol of a snake means for humanity through history before trying to analyse why there is a crop with the form of a snake and why now and try to find reasons or situations, etc. The crop by itself is a beautiful image per se, what it is saying to us? What is this snake doing here? Why a snake?

Maybe I confuse terms, English is always very complicated for me to express my ideas that are also questions that I ask myself.

English is not my first language either. ;)

As far as I understand, not necessarily every single thing within a dream have an important 'significance'. Some things could simply be memories showing up that have no particular significance. If I walk into my neighborhood during a dream, the location might be more relevant than the trees that surround the houses (just a physical memory of the area). Just my thoughts.

It's really up to us to try to figure out and it sure ain't easy sometimes. Knowing more about our inner-self helps trendemously.

The snake is a powerful symbol widely used. I don't have a lot of knowledge in symbolism (yet) so I would suggest you search the board and/or Laura's website as it is discussed in many places. Think of the 'Genesis', the snake, lizzies, temptation, the fall of Lucifer (mankind), the 'illusion', the great deception, the 'big secret' (we are being manipulated) etc. That should be a good start but remember that you are always free to interpret it like you wish as much as to take it or leave it.

This website provides information. We are free to do whatever we want with it.

Peace.

 

[Ekios]

English is not my first language either. ;)

[Troll]Beubeubeuh you lier cheater, it is close for you considering where you live !![/Troll]
PS: je rigole hein ;)

 

[Deleted member 8431]

English is not my first language either. ;)

[Troll]Beubeubeuh you lier cheater, it is close for you considering where you live !![/Troll]
PS: je rigole hein ;)

*Whsipering*

We might be getting invaded by english people... help us out...

Héhéhé, je rigole aussi bien sûr! (Hehehe, I'm kidding as well of course!)

 

[Ekios]

One language to rule them all ...

 

[Deleted member 8431]

One language to rule them all ...

I vote for French!!! Sacrebleu!

Nah, actually that quote reminded me of the Georgian 'guidestones'.

 

[Joe]

How do they figure that the year is 2012?

Perceval you mean about the time of the calculation or 18 months from the year 2011?

I think Percival is pointing out, and he can of course correct me if I'm wrong, that there is nothing in this interpretation of the crop circle to indicate the year. Those who are interpreting the cc as communicating a date and time are assuming it means this year. But really that date could apply to any year where August 4th falls on a Saturday, past or future.

Indeed. The website person said it "And as the formation occurred this year, we assume that this is the year meant by the creators of the formation."

 

[Joe]

I think Loreta is saying that she looks for the symbolism in dreams and crop circles, as he said, if a CC depicts a snake, she doesn't think "oh, it means a big snake is coming to eat the earth". I think she was pointing out that that is what some were doing by imposing a rather literal meaning on the latest circle, i.e. it's a definite date this year. Having said that, if it's not a date, then what else could it be?

 

[Vulcan59]

Here is a new cc reported in Italy on the 25th of June. - Source

 

[Ekios]

The ground shots leaves me perplex here ... looks like the wind did it or is it just me seeing what I want to see ?

 

[loreta]

Here is a new cc reported in Italy on the 25th of June. - Source

This is very beautiful! So perfection. It makes me think about something watery... Like an aquatic animal.

 

[loreta]

I think Loreta is saying that she looks for the symbolism in dreams and crop circles, as he said, if a CC depicts a snake, she doesn't think "oh, it means a big snake is coming to eat the earth". I think she was pointing out that that is what some were doing by imposing a rather literal meaning on the latest circle, i.e. it's a definite date this year. Having said that, if it's not a date, then what else could it be?

Maybe a part of a labyrinth? One part of it, the other part being absent.

 

[1984]

Here is a new cc reported in Italy on the 25th of June. - Source

It almost looks like the Earth and moon and a huge 'dragon tail comet' circling the earth.

 

[Vulcan59]

It almost looks like the Earth and moon and a huge 'dragon tail comet' circling the earth.

Had the same thoughts. :) Wondering if that could be called a spirograph?