2020 US Election - Let The Games Begin!
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wanderingthomas
Jedi Master
wanderingthomas
Jedi Master
When my mother was in assisted living, most of the residents were "assisted" with their absentee ballot voting. I did not observe this process directly, but felt that unscrupulous tactics could be used to manipulate the voting by the elderly in these facilities. If I remember correctly, reps from both parties were present to 'assist'. I instructed management that my mother would vote in person - just as I instructed she should never receive a flu shot. But because of her compromised memory/dementia, she did get a flu shot at least once and when I took her to the poll to vote, I was informed she had already voted! So, it's clear how easily it is to amass a large number of votes from these residents in nursing/assisted living facilities. It's really something that needs better oversight and investigation.
Persephone
Jedi Master
Thanks Arwenn for these inspirational quotes ! Just a correction for those who, like me, would like to reread the session from which you quoted: it's the "10 May 2014" session
While I wouldn't be surprised at all about this being the case I couldn't find any real source for that claim. Seems like people on reddit tried to find it too, without success. What we do know though is that Biden likes Cheney (why am I not surprised?):
Joe Biden says "I actually like Dick Cheney' in 2015 video, prompting widespread liberal backlash
Fake News from babel California.
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Trump berated European allies. They aren't sad to see him go.
wanderingthomas
Jedi Master
I feel torn; I'm not sure the information flow is worth the format; Twitter is everything wrong with the news sphere these days and it chaffs at my senses.
Twitter is the ultimate intellectual leveling force; reducing all minds into an addict's one-size-compresses-all box, with the appropriate logo; It's all in the name! Mindless, flocking 2D animal noises. Tweets!
And just look at how the world has started behaving in the last ten years of cell phone addiction! I think when faced with the question, "Which came first..?" the answer is reasonably clear; we've all witnessed it happen in real time. The bird came first! It was Big Tech's ultimate, spiteful contribution to the enslavement of humanity. Its clever algorithms and carefully measured formatting and color choices, its character limits, (!!) all of it has contributed mightily to reducing people, making smart people sound and act like babies, (Eggs, that is, just to pound home the metaphor.)
Am I being overly sensitive here? Is it out of place to ask that you make an effort to expand your posts with some extra commentary regarding these anemic brain squirts from Twitterland? I'm feeling my IQ grow dimmer with every interaction.
wanderingthomas
Jedi Master
It is actually. Im finding and spreading information in real time for the purpose of... spreading information, not writing exegesis.
Hm. You'll pardon me for noting: that's a rather 'Twitter' style response; Short and snippy. Have you been affected by your time with the blue bird?
The medium is the message, after all.
It just seems like a good idea to post items with some context and reasoning for inclusion, some notes on the experience of how it affects you and the world as you observe it; insights, etc. I can get a subject-sorted Twitter newsfeed on Twitter or Facebook if I wanted it. I come here for analysis.
On the other hand... I can also appreciate the value of breaking news on an evolving story, that fire-hose drinking has its place.
What are your thoughts? Really stop and consider; If you think I'm being foolish, let me know and I'll let it go.
Stuff hits the fan in the small states first always.Joking, but good on Slovenia for standing by Melania.
Slovenia isn't alone in this. China, Russia, Mexiko and Hungary haven't granulated yet either and probably won't for the time being, for good reasons. On the other hand the usual suspects/Puppets of the Pathocracy were of course very quick to congratulate Biden: Angela Merkel (Germany), Boris Johnson (Britain), Justin Trudeau (Cananda), Jens Stoltenberg (NATO) and Ursula von der Leyen (EU) etc.
Another "exposure" moment for many people: The Deep State is not limited to the US, but runs through the whole Western world. Good to know who's who
wmu9
Jedi Master
This is hilarious. Point by point...Vote rigging: How to spot the tell-tale signs
Elizabeth Blunt has witnessed many elections across Africa, as both a BBC journalist and election observer and looks at six signs of possible election rigging.
Elizabeth Blunt has witnessed many elections across Africa, as both a BBC journalist and election observer and looks at six signs of possible election rigging.
Too many voters
Watch the turnout figures ‒ they can be a big giveaway.
You never get a 98% or 99% turnout in an honest election. You just don't.
Voting is compulsory in Gabon, but it is not enforced; even in Australia where it is enforced, where you can vote by post or online and can be fined for not voting, turnout only reaches 90-95%.
The main reason that a full turnout is practically impossible is that electoral registers, even if they are recently compiled, can rarely be 100% up-to-date.
Even if no-one gets sick or has to travel, people still die. And when a register is updated, new voters are keen to add themselves to the list.
No-one, however, has any great enthusiasm for removing the names of those who have died, and over time the number of these non-existent voters increases. A high number of voters in the Niger Delta cast doubt on the credibility of the election result
I once reported on an election in the Niger Delta where some areas had a turnout of more than 120%.
"They're very healthy people round here, and very civic-minded," a local official assured me.
But a turnout of more than 100%, in an area or an individual polling station, is a major red flag and a reason to cancel the result and re-run the election.
A high turnout in specific areas
Even where the turnout is within the bounds of possibility, if the figure is wildly different from the turnout elsewhere, it serves as a warning.
Why would one particular area, or one individual polling station, have a 90% turnout, while most other areas register less than 70%?
Something strange is almost certainly going on, especially if the high turnout is an area which favours one particular candidate or party over another.
Large numbers of invalid votes
There are other, more subtle ways that riggers can increase votes ‒ or reduce them.
Election officials can choose to disqualify ballots for the slightest imperfection
Keep an eye on the number of votes excluded as invalid. Even in countries with low literacy rates this isn't normally above 5%.
High numbers of invalid votes can mean that officials are disqualifying ballots for the slightest imperfection, even when the voter's intention is perfectly clear, in an attempt to depress votes for their opponents.
More votes than ballot papers issued
When the polls close, and before they open the boxes, election officials normally have to go through a complicated and rather tedious process known as the reconciliation of ballots.
After they have counted how many ballot papers they received in the morning, they then need to count how many are left, and how many ‒ if any ‒ were torn or otherwise spoiled and had to be put aside.
The result will tell them how many papers should be in the box. It should also match the number of names checked off on the register.
Filling ballot boxes with more voting papers than were issued by polling staff is known as 'stuffing'
The first task when the box is opened is to count the number of papers inside, this is done prior to counting the votes for the different candidates.
If there is a discrepancy, something is wrong. And if there are more papers in the boxes than were issued by the polling staff, it is highly likely that someone has been doing some "stuffing".
That's a good enough reason to cancel the result and arrange a re-run.
Results that don't match
Mobile phones have made elections much more transparent.
It is now standard practice to allow party agents, observers and sometimes even voters to watch the counting process and take photographs of the results sheet with their phones.
They then have proof of the genuine results from their area ‒ just in case the ones announced later by the electoral commission don't match.
It has clearly taken crooked politicians some time to catch up with the fact that people will now know if they change the results.
Mobile phones have made elections more transparent and caught some politicians off-guard
In south-eastern Togo, local party representatives told me that they witnessed the count in 2005 and endorsed the result; they saw the official in charge leave for the capital, taking the signed results sheet with him. Yet the results announced later on the radio were different.
The same thing happened in Katanga Province of the Democratic Republic of Congo in 2011. The results announced on the radio were not the same as those international observers saw posted outside the polling stations.
But this transparency only works if the official announcement of results includes figures for individual counting centres ‒ and this has become an issue in the current Gabonese election.
Delay in announcing results
Finally something that is not necessarily a sign of rigging, but it is often assumed to be so.
Election commissions, particularly in Africa, can appear to take an inordinately long time to publish official results.
This is not helped by local observer networks and political parties who, tallying up the results sent in by their agents on mobile phones, have a good idea of the result long before the more cumbersome official process is completed.
But the official process takes time, especially in countries with poor communications, and the introduction of modern electronic transmission systems has not necessarily helped.
The introduction of new technologies and computer systems has not been as beneficial as hoped
Where these systems have proved too demanding for the context, as in Malawi last year, they can actually increase delays as staff struggle to make the technology work.
In that particular case the results eventually had to be transmitted the old fashioned way; placed in envelopes and driven down to the capital under police escort.
By then, allegations of rigging were flying.
Delay is certainly dangerous, fuelling rumours of results being "massaged" before release and increasing tensions, but this is not incontrovertible proof of rigging.
Lys
Jedi
I agree with you Woodsman. I don't find it easy to read and sometimes I just feel like I am loosing my time clicking and clicking again on every Twitter's link when there is no explanation attached to it.
That's all at your credit that you want to spread information Domagoj but, it would be nice to put at list a title, a comment or what are your thoughts about what you post, so we can choose to click or not on the link you share.
I suggest that you may have a look on this thread if you haven't yet : Improving the forum experience for users
