BHelmet said:
“That's also a very natural way that billions of human beings have held their hands for millennia.”
Not For this kid. When I put my hands in that position it feels unnatural and like it has to be intentionally done.
Joe said: {{Well, take it from me that it's not a "masonic hand gesture", and frankly, it's pretty depressing that you would double down on this kind of comment. I mean, what is the point of having a discussion on global events that impact us all and trying to make sense of it, if people are not inclined to make an effort to regulate their apparent penchant for free association? People who do that, IMO, have no real interest in the truth. For them, it's more like 'having fun' and projecting their imagination into text form on a computer screen. That's fair enough (god knows most of the internet is about doing precisely that), but if that is the case, then we should be clear that discussions here are for that purpose and NOT about trying to be objective and understand reality AS IT IS.}}
Joe, you seem kind of riled up here. I know there is a lot of stress all around this planet for so many reasons. Full moon too. I hope you are OK. I also know I can be a catalyzing type of person. You're welcome. So, you are depressed and/or upset by my comments. That is an opportunity for us both to dig deeper. Insinuated cheap shots are an opportunity for me to turn the other cheek. Thank you. But our personal reactions are not of consequence here.
So let's get at the truth you imply I have no interest in:
(one minor point, first: I am VERY hand oriented. I am a musician, I still work on cars, I build stuff (no I am not a mason!) when I was less than 2 years old, I had my crib half disassembled before my mother discovered it) So my comments on the hand gesture was just honest, period. And as for billions/millennia/hands I could say - "how do you know, were you there?" - BUT let's assume
we are both old souls here! No harm, no foul. Onward....
Whether there is or is not such a thing as Masonry or Masonic hand signs was not my point. Nor was it to free associate. My point was this: In a Punch and Judy show there is one person operating both puppets. And certainly there are puppet masters behind the scenes of these actors we see projected on the screen a la Platos cave. So a very real question, for me, of which I do not know the answer: Is the whole show orchestrated? OR Is there a general power struggle going on? Is this game we are watching already rigged? Or is the outcome in doubt? Is it Fake Pro Wrestling or is there really a game going on?
Is there an element of free will choice still left in the game that constricts the side that is trying to steal the election?
It is like watching a ball game. When I was a kid I would root really hard for one team or the other
as if my rooting had force and power and would make a difference in the outcome. (if I did not have a rooting interest I would always pick the underdog...but that is another story) (Furthermore, all the rooting is probably a lot like sex: the STSers feed off of that too) So I am watching this game of the Trump Terror vs the Biden Blues. I am pulling for the underdog, of course. But, I have to admit, part of me is like "wake me up when its over and we found out who won and I will then deal with that bit of WHAT IS". But that is the part of me that can't stand the suspense which is tremendous. All our lives will be impacted by whatever happens. I am trying to stay on an even keel.
All the conjecture is trying to figure out who is going to win. And what happens after. I am reminded of Matthew 6:34: Don't worry about Tomorrow, Tomorrow will bring plenty of its own troubles. We have enough problems today, as it is. (total paraphrase)
So on top of the election on a human level, I am assuming (and I assume you are too) that there is the 4D STS level of the game who are the ultimate puppet masters and "fixers". Now, they may not actually care who wins - they may see this as a win-win for them. Either way there is going to be misery, suffering and outrage in the aftermath. But the game that is going on at the quorum level - that is the one I would love to see and hear. Because clearly they should be throwing a penalty flag on the Biden Blues for Illegal and Unnecesasry Free Will Abridgment.
I think they are reviewing it in the booth from multiple angles as I write this.
To recap: I do not every want to destroy your faith in humanity; or cause you harm. We all know the medium of written words has its shortcomings and pitfalls. To paraphrase the ancient Hawaiian Pule: Forgive me; I love you.
That's it - pretty much Boom, Done.
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