2020 US Election - Let The Games Begin!

SOTTREADER said:
I think the anger and perhaps rage that @Mark7 is exhibiting is quite interesting.

It's interesting because it's from the inability to effect the outcome of this situation. It's the realisation that power doesn't actually reside with him, the people. It's the expression of the realisation that the democracy he thought he lived in doesn't actually exist. It's the denial of this, he hopes, he wishes, he lashes out that this lie that he's fallen for is in fact a lie and Trump will indeed be made president.

I imagine quite a few million people in the US are going through these emotions. It'll be interesting to see what comes of it. Millions must be feeling quite toothless and I don't think they are used to feeling toothless so I expect at some point there will be an explosion of anger and rage that will emerge from these ranks. That's my guess.
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Thanks for your mirror SOTTREADER, I am perhaps too emotional about Trump losing the election. For me, it's a drama that hits close to home. I grew up in the 60's and 70's. I was an ok boomer. I am just trying to be one of the wise virgins. Some of us in America still have some sort of illusion - it's like a Norman Rockwell painting. It's not real but it's realer than real.

Gave you a few thumbs down on your posts. Never did that to anybody else somehow. All's I will say is that I am not the only one.

I get the impression that you are a young man who is seeking knowledge. I come to this forum to be wrong sometimes, to stay awake.

I have been some sort of a member through several iterations of this forum. I value being here. I need to WORK and pray. Sorry to everyone for my blind spots.
 
Regardless of who wins the presidency, there will always be that looming threat of the "dark" PTB. Trump can try to stem portions of it, but as a whole, it remains solid since its tentacles reach not only 3rd density understanding but 4th density too. I say "dark" because there has been some nuance of what constitutes the "PTB":

Q: (L) Let me ask this, CD asked an interesting question. It was, if we know what he thinks we know, and if we are building the kind of strength that he thinks we are building, and getting factual information about all such things, why hasn’t somebody, either on third density or fourth density, seen fit to stop or block us? He was asking very plainly why has something physical not been done to, as he put it, “take us out?”

A: The powers that be want slow release of information.

Q: (L) Does this include the fourth density STS?

A: No, but they don’t see that which they do not wish to see. [Now notice the distinction here. They said that “the powers that be” want a slow release of information, and I asked if this included the STS factions and the answer was “no.” So that obviously means that the “powers that be” we are talking about here may be the “good guys.”]

Q: (L) They don’t see us as a threat?

A: More like an annoyance.
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The fight we see now is a chance for people in a state of sleep to feel shocks to their consciousness that may jumpstart their critical thinking processes. And for those awake and know that we are the small Davids against the giant Goliath, this is a unique chance in this time to practice and hone the principles of warriorship described by Carlos Castaneda and written about in Laura's 5th book of the Wave series:

The process of rechanneling this energy involves six interplaying elements, five of which are called the “attributes of warriorship” – control, discipline, forbearance, timing, and will. While these apply to the inner world of the warrior, the sixth applies to the external world: the petty tyrant. “A petty tyrant is a tormentor. Someone who either holds the power of life and death over warriors or simply annoys them to distraction.”

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Don Juan told Carlos, “My benefactor explained something very interesting. Forbearance means holding back with the spirit something that the warrior knows is rightfully due. It doesn’t mean that a warrior goes around plotting to do anybody mischief, or planning to settle past scores. Forbearance is something independent. As long as the warrior has control, discipline, and timing, forbearance assures giving whatever is due to whoever deserves it.”

Carlos asked don Juan what measured defeat in an encounter with a petty tyrant. “Anyone who joins the petty tyrant is defeated,” he replied. “To act in anger, without control and discipline, to have no forbearance, is to be defeated.”
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It's no coincidence that all this talk of corruption in many areas of society have reached a boiling point in 2020 (i.e. "clear vision"). The current election cycle has brought about big guns from many sides. Those who know and/or feel the pain and trauma of humanity's history, such as the world wars and 9/11, (even extending far in the past during the times of Atlantis and beyond) caused by petty and supreme tyrants are being put through a test of sorts mentally, physically, and spiritually.

It is a war of attrition. We have an advantage of the Work and its ways of helping us fix ourselves and helping conserve, and use our energies more effectively. We also have the "staying power" that manifests in our connection to STO principles to handle whatever harms that come before us.
 
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bjorn said:
I think that at some point people will be angry enough that mass-disobedience will start en that people will revolt.
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"At some point..." It's hard to know if this is the tipping point. There have been so many horrendous things over the years, and most of us just let it go.

I started learning things about government corruption in the mid 1980s when I was young. When I attempted to share some information about something I had read, I was treated mostly with disdain. I was told not to be naïve. Gradually, I came to understand that unless a person has some kind of curiosity about a subject, then mostly they are content to let things continue as is. I also came to see that unless someone had personal experience of injustice or corruption, then somehow they still believed the system was basically good and the rule of law would prevail.

With the current situation, many of us have been personally affected. A lot of people are angry. For example, we do know that the mask "mandates' have been foisted upon us all, but I don't see many people disobeying that. So if they won't act in civil disobedience against a mask mandate (which are not even lawful) then what would the tipping point be? Not wearing a mask is a fairly easy thing to do.

Are we at a point of mass-disobedience? Hard to say. But I do think that mass civil disobedience is needed in order to change things. We shall see.
 
Mark7 said:
Thanks for your mirror SOTTREADER, I am perhaps too emotional about Trump losing the election. For me, it's a drama that hits close to home. I grew up in the 60's and 70's. I was an ok boomer. I am just trying to be one of the wise virgins. Some of us in America still have some sort of illusion - it's like a Norman Rockwell painting. It's not real but it's realer than real.

Gave you a few thumbs down on your posts. Never did that to anybody else somehow. All's I will say is that I am not the only one.

I get the impression that you are a young man who is seeking knowledge. I come to this forum to be wrong sometimes, to stay awake.

I have been some sort of a member through several iterations of this forum. I value being here. I need to WORK and pray. Sorry to everyone for my blind spots.
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No worries @Mark7

All I can say is that we're all subject to certain programming based on where we are from. Being an American, you were brought up a certain way, made to think and believe certain things. Americans in general believe they have certain benefits that others don't, and these benefits are bestowed upon them for the mere reason they happen to be American.

As Joe said, there has been many things that have transpired in the US and allowed to happen without the resulting kick back in terms of people feeling betrayed or toothless. From 911 to the false wars, to rampant cooperate corruption etc. The system has been in decay for too long and really, this doesn't anger Americans as long as they can maintain a certain kind of lifestyle and be made to believe certain things about their specialness and unique place in the world.

Now the Trump thing happens and a majority of you snap into life and realise something is deeply wrong. Believing the mythology you've been fed, you follow the steps to undo the crime e.g. file court cases etc but then this doesn't work! You're now left in a position where it looks like there's nothing you can do. People are now praying for the virtue within the military given that the virtue within SCOTUS appears to have been nonexistent. What happens when the military don't turn out to hold this virtue about defending the constitution?

I believe Joe was bringing to life the hypocrisy. The hypocrisy of not having been emotional or offended before but choosing to be so for what may be a lesser crime (compared to the crimes previously commited).

It's all interesting I think when we think about it.
 
Neil said:
What I have gleaned from this whole affair is that on this planet might makes right.
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Yup, 3D Earth STS dominance hierarchy.

Americans are among the last to learn this lesson, as the actions done in their name around the world have already taught most other people that 'freedom and democracy' is really 'might makes right'.

Regarding 'holding the line' and 'fighting for Trump': unless some 'hail mary' is handed down to Trump from 'on high', the blocking of media and judicial access to the Trump campaign means that their only available redress at this point is to attempt to physically wrest control of the country from the deep state / parallel government.

Half-measures in such a situation would result in Trump and anyone helping him being arrested - or worse. You would have to be 'all in' to make it work.
  • find and shut off the broadcast sources for MSM (until such time as those entities can be broken up/'nationalized')
  • shut down the internet (temporarily, at least until Google, Facebook and Twitter can be forced to 'uncensor' pro-Trump messaging)
  • impose capital controls to prevent capital flight/financial sabotage
  • begin targeted surveillance, checkpoints and curfews ('martial law') to break up their 'street-level networks' - which we know exist because of what happened in the summer...
They're just some of what leaders of other countries have had to resort to when fending off CIA-instigated coups, in battles they rarely won in the end.
 
bjorn said:
It's not only Nevada. Republicans in Georgia and Pennsylvania also casted their electoral college votes for President Trump and Vice President Pence. Perhaps more will follow? But let's not get our hopes up too high. But it surely is interesting.
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This means when the electors go to DC on Jan 6th, with dueling electors, the VP, which is Pence, can decided to take either the Dem or Repub electors, or can just say we're not counting those. If that happens and Biden or Trump can't get 270 votes, then each state gets 1 vote based on their legislature - in which case, Trump would have the most votes. If I'm not mistaken.
 
SubnetUnMask said:
This means when the electors go to DC on Jan 6th, with dueling electors, the VP, which is Pence, can decided to take either the Dem or Repub electors, or can just say we're not counting those. If that happens and Biden or Trump can't get 270 votes, then each state gets 1 vote based on their legislature - in which case, Trump would have the most votes. If I'm not mistaken.
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That's how I understand it.
 
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