2020 US Election - Let The Games Begin!

This is speculation on my part.

In the upper echelons of power, I'd imagine there are the pure STS types and also a few STO-oriented types.

What's at stake is ultimately humanity. I know the psychopaths in general are highly limited spiritually and they can't fathom things beyond their own self interests. However the ones with souls, ether STS or Sto-candidates can and I'm not sure interests are aligned on here as one group is essentially looking to destroy its own species and ensure its imprisonment whilst another I feel may be considering other things

So Trump himself may not be able to do much but I don't really think he's by himself. I think Trump offers a huge opportunity to the "other side" and I'm not sure the game is as of yet fully over.

I don't think arrests or the like will be made or the military will initiate some overt actions, rather I think, I hope, within the next 2 weeks, certain information gets released to the public detailing the nature of our reality.

I think that's the ultimate "middle finger" to the PTB. If military sources or other deep state sources unload some info, then I think maybe that'll throw a huge spanner into the works.

Holding out some hope, based on pure speculation, FYI.

Ps, I just feel like, if we're in the end game, then big moves are going to be made from both sides. Thus far we're just seeing moves from one side. Waiting for the other side to hit. There's definitely another side. Our situation can't be hopeless. The universe is about balance. It's just that the moves from the other side may not be what we expect. I'm holding out some faith.
 
Apple is currently threatening Parler, the free speech alternative to Twitter unless they enact Draconian policies demanded by the Big Tech oligarchs.

Parler has now been removed by Google, Apple and Amazon's AWS. I guess when the Cs said 'almost immediate slide into totalitarianism' they were pretty correct. Heck, it's starting before he's even taken office!

Parler: Amazon to remove site from web hosting service
 
The American magazine Forbes warns all companies that will hire former employees of Donald Trump:

Let it be known to the business world: Hire any of Trump’s fellow fabulists above, and Forbes will assume that everything your company or firm talks about is a lie. We’re going to scrutinize, double-check, investigate with the same skepticism we’d approach a Trump tweet. Want to ensure the world’s biggest business media brand approaches you as a potential funnel of disinformation? Then hire away.

A Truth Reckoning: Why We’re Holding Those Who Lied For Trump Accountable
 
What’s foolish exactly? As far as I can tell, this forum is about networking and one of the cornerstones of that is pointing out errors in each other’s thinking, no? I just shared my observations and you may disagree with them, but saying that we shouldn’t be pointing things out like I did is not in the spirit of this forum, in my opinion. I come to this thread to read the latest developments and informed analysis, not wild speculation and unsubstantiated claims. There are more than enough places on the internet for that kind of carry on.

So now we need to do research and move on to something useful? Sounds a lot like dissembling to me. I don’t see you offering possibilities, I see a bunch of claims being put forth without much analysis going into it. The links you provided were posted with very little commentary and, frankly, the contents of those is just all over the place. Cheney, Rumsfeld, UFOs, COG, none of it saying anything this way or the other.

Yes, and that’s why all of this info coming out through questionable sources is bunk. What’s the point of posting those without any qualifying commentary?
I did not compare Trump to Hitler, I was just illustrating how not conceding defeat doesn’t mean you have any sort of plan to avoid it.
Yes, Trump is trying to show his supporters that he didn’t give up on them.
I’m not dissatisfied with the Kraken/Q, I was never buying it. It was quite obviously a load of baloney from the get go.

And just to be clear, are you guys actually calling for Trump to raise the military? How do you imagine this playing out in real life?
Let’s say he has full support from the top brass and he says we’re taking our country back. What then? He sends the troops where? Are they going to be going around the country arresting anyone and everyone Trumps deems to be a traitor? Ok. Then what? He takes them to court? Which court? It was clearly shown that all the courts in the country are corrupt when none of them wanted to even allow Trumps election fraud suits in. So that won’t work. How about court martialing their asses? That might work, but then he’s become no better then Stalin or Lenin. And when all of this ends, the US just goes back to business as usual? Right. You would get an immediate insurrection from the leftists, the entire country would burn down before he even managed to put the elites in jail. Business would fail. What about the financial system which Trump most certainly doesn’t control? What about NATO and the UN who would definitely be called upon by the US and Euro elites to quash this coup. It would be absolute mayhem.
It sounds to me you guys just hate the way things are so much that you’d rather watch the world burn than live through a bit of leftist tyranny. Half the world already experienced that sort of tyranny and they’re still here. It won’t be so bad and you’ll still get the chance to resist, but there will be no saviour to swoop in at the last minute and set world straight.
I might have went a bit overboard with this post in some regards and I welcome feedback on that, but I think it was important to say. I feel like we’re degenerating into a chan board over here and that doesn’t bode well for us or the world at large.
What’s foolish exactly? As far as I can tell, this forum is about networking and one of the cornerstones of that is pointing out errors in each other’s thinking, no? I just shared my observations and you may disagree with them, but saying that we shouldn’t be pointing things out like I did is not in the spirit of this forum, in my opinion. I come to this thread to read the latest developments and informed analysis, not wild speculation and unsubstantiated claims. There are more than enough places on the internet for that kind of carry on.

So now we need to do research and move on to something useful? Sounds a lot like dissembling to me. I don’t see you offering possibilities, I see a bunch of claims being put forth without much analysis going into it. The links you provided were posted with very little commentary and, frankly, the contents of those is just all over the place. Cheney, Rumsfeld, UFOs, COG, none of it saying anything this way or the other.

Yes, and that’s why all of this info coming out through questionable sources is bunk. What’s the point of posting those without any qualifying commentary?
I did not compare Trump to Hitler, I was just illustrating how not conceding defeat doesn’t mean you have any sort of plan to avoid it.
Yes, Trump is trying to show his supporters that he didn’t give up on them.
I’m not dissatisfied with the Kraken/Q, I was never buying it. It was quite obviously a load of baloney from the get go.

And just to be clear, are you guys actually calling for Trump to raise the military? How do you imagine this playing out in real life?
Let’s say he has full support from the top brass and he says we’re taking our country back. What then? He sends the troops where? Are they going to be going around the country arresting anyone and everyone Trumps deems to be a traitor? Ok. Then what? He takes them to court? Which court? It was clearly shown that all the courts in the country are corrupt when none of them wanted to even allow Trumps election fraud suits in. So that won’t work. How about court martialing their asses? That might work, but then he’s become no better then Stalin or Lenin. And when all of this ends, the US just goes back to business as usual? Right. You would get an immediate insurrection from the leftists, the entire country would burn down before he even managed to put the elites in jail. Business would fail. What about the financial system which Trump most certainly doesn’t control? What about NATO and the UN who would definitely be called upon by the US and Euro elites to quash this coup. It would be absolute mayhem.
It sounds to me you guys just hate the way things are so much that you’d rather watch the world burn than live through a bit of leftist tyranny. Half the world already experienced that sort of tyranny and they’re still here. It won’t be so bad and you’ll still get the chance to resist, but there will be no saviour to swoop in at the last minute and set world straight.
I might have went a bit overboard with this post in some regards and I welcome feedback on that, but I think it was important to say. I feel like we’re degenerating into a chan board over here and that doesn’t bode well for us or the world at large.
I wrote a potential scenario of what the military might do to quell what is obviously a coup. I asked questions about the deep state, since you are correct, there are factors that would be out of Trump's and the military's control, and I indicated just as you did, that things could get very ugly -- the way war is ugly.

Oh, also, FYI: the military court is not the same as civilian courts. You seem to be conflating the two.

If you don't like this forum then why participate then?

And no, at a time like this, wasting valuable time on psychoanalyzing people whose contributions you don't accept is not helpful.

I went out of my way, late last night, to provide you with links, and THIS is all you say in response? Not even a thank you.

I'm sorry I took you seriously and shared the work I've been doing here with you. My mistake.
 
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What’s foolish exactly? As far as I can tell, this forum is about networking and one of the cornerstones of that is pointing out errors in each other’s thinking, no? I just shared my observations and you may disagree with them, but saying that we shouldn’t be pointing things out like I did is not in the spirit of this forum, in my opinion. I come to this thread to read the latest developments and informed analysis, not wild speculation and unsubstantiated claims. There are more than enough places on the internet for that kind of carry on.

So now we need to do research and move on to something useful? Sounds a lot like dissembling to me. I don’t see you offering possibilities, I see a bunch of claims being put forth without much analysis going into it. The links you provided were posted with very little commentary and, frankly, the contents of those is just all over the place. Cheney, Rumsfeld, UFOs, COG, none of it saying anything this way or the other.

Yes, and that’s why all of this info coming out through questionable sources is bunk. What’s the point of posting those without any qualifying commentary?
I did not compare Trump to Hitler, I was just illustrating how not conceding defeat doesn’t mean you have any sort of plan to avoid it.
Yes, Trump is trying to show his supporters that he didn’t give up on them.
I’m not dissatisfied with the Kraken/Q, I was never buying it. It was quite obviously a load of baloney from the get go.

And just to be clear, are you guys actually calling for Trump to raise the military? How do you imagine this playing out in real life?
Let’s say he has full support from the top brass and he says we’re taking our country back. What then? He sends the troops where? Are they going to be going around the country arresting anyone and everyone Trumps deems to be a traitor? Ok. Then what? He takes them to court? Which court? It was clearly shown that all the courts in the country are corrupt when none of them wanted to even allow Trumps election fraud suits in. So that won’t work. How about court martialing their asses? That might work, but then he’s become no better then Stalin or Lenin. And when all of this ends, the US just goes back to business as usual? Right. You would get an immediate insurrection from the leftists, the entire country would burn down before he even managed to put the elites in jail. Business would fail. What about the financial system which Trump most certainly doesn’t control? What about NATO and the UN who would definitely be called upon by the US and Euro elites to quash this coup. It would be absolute mayhem.
It sounds to me you guys just hate the way things are so much that you’d rather watch the world burn than live through a bit of leftist tyranny. Half the world already experienced that sort of tyranny and they’re still here. It won’t be so bad and you’ll still get the chance to resist, but there will be no saviour to swoop in at the last minute and set world straight.
I might have went a bit overboard with this post in some regards and I welcome feedback on that, but I think it was important to say. I feel like we’re degenerating into a chan board over here and that doesn’t bode well for us or the world at large.
Well we have a man who needs proof ,and talk with certainty.
If you have a positive comments please do ,and try not to impose ,, reality" on other.
I understand your concern and believe non of us understand the level of
complexity. In my world ,higher density beings are in direct contact with top players on both sides. I can't provide evidence, and steel believe my critical thinking is just fine.
At this point certainty is out the window, possibilities are abandoned!
 
And just to be clear, are you guys actually calling for Trump to raise the military? How do you imagine this playing out in real life?
Let’s say he has full support from the top brass and he says we’re taking our country back. What then? He sends the troops where? Are they going to be going around the country arresting anyone and everyone Trumps deems to be a traitor? Ok. Then what? He takes them to court? Which court? It was clearly shown that all the courts in the country are corrupt when none of them wanted to even allow Trumps election fraud suits in. So that won’t work. How about court martialing their asses? That might work, but then he’s become no better then Stalin or Lenin. And when all of this ends, the US just goes back to business as usual? Right. You would get an immediate insurrection from the leftists, the entire country would burn down before he even managed to put the elites in jail. Business would fail. What about the financial system which Trump most certainly doesn’t control? What about NATO and the UN who would definitely be called upon by the US and Euro elites to quash this coup. It would be absolute mayhem.
It sounds to me you guys just hate the way things are so much that you’d rather watch the world burn than live through a bit of leftist tyranny. Half the world already experienced that sort of tyranny and they’re still here. It won’t be so bad and you’ll still get the chance to resist, but there will be no saviour to swoop in at the last minute and set world straight.
I might have went a bit overboard with this post in some regards and I welcome feedback on that, but I think it was important to say. I feel like we’re degenerating into a chan board over here and that doesn’t bode well for us or the world at large.

With the judicial system totally compromised there would have to be military tribunals under the insurrection act.
Again, I don't see any reason why you would want to compare Trump to Hitler, Lenin or Stalin.

With the insurrection act in place there will not be much insurrection by the leftists, especially when their financial support would be severed.

The financial system will come down on anyone, Trump, Biden and the leftists.

The United States is practically 90% of NATO, the others are at best able to defend their waters and borders.

I admit to hating the way things are. If you've followed the threads on this page you will know that there will be more than 'a bit of leftist tyranny'.

'It won't be so bad'.

No, I don't think you've followed the threads on this page...
 
I need to catch up on the most recent posts, but has anyone here heard about these alleged blackouts?

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They say they arrested the Pope.


VATICAN BLACKOUT: Pope arrested on 80 count indictment for Child Trafficking, Fraud​

conservativebeaver_skphjv Posted onJanuary 10, 2021
UPDATE: It appears that Pope Francis tweeted out this morning, however Conservative Beaver has confirmed Pope Francis has a social media team that schedules his posts, and this one was pre-planned. If you click on the tweet, you can see TweetDeck was used to schedule the post.
Pope Francis is still in Federal Custody in Italy, hence, he has not been seen on video. The FBI are enroute for the interrogation, according to sources.
I read 10 minutes ago there's a blackout in the Vatican and you were arrested.
— Shoe Repair Lady👠🥾 (@ShoeRepairLady) January 10, 2021
VATICAN / ITALY – Pope Francis aka Jorge Mario Bergoglio was arrested Saturday in connection with an 80- count indictment of charges including possession of child pornography, human trafficking, incest, possession of drug paraphernalia and felony fraud.
#Vatican is using dark mode #blackout
— 'Big Daddy' Vin (@vinsinners) January 10, 2021
What's going on with these blackouts… including the Vatican?
— Tim Young (@TimRunsHisMouth) January 10, 2021
The Italian National Prosecutor’s Office confirmed it ordered the arrests, and filed the charges.
Military officers, Italian police, and their Sex Crimes Unit went to the pope’s home in the Vatican, they arrested him and several other high ranking officials, and placed them all under arrest without incident. People near the scene have reported hearing gunshots, but the Police would not confirm if they were the ones firing the weapons.
Pope Francis is currently being held in an unknown prison, being interrogated by Federal Agents working for the state of Italy and Interpol. The FBI is reportedly making arrangements to fly in and interrogate him once Interpol is done with him.
Giuseppe Governale, Italy’s chief anti-mafia prosecutor, was called in early into the investigation into Pope Francis and others within the Vatican. He said the group was “underestimated” and particularly dangerous because of its ability to proliferate across nations and infiltrate them.
“These individuals are truly the worst of the worst in society. I can promise you, we will not stop targeting human trafficking until we put a stop to this despicable trade in the Vatican and Italy, as well as surrounding countries around Europe. While I am a lead prosecutor in Italy, my department will strive to protect our citizens, especially those that need us most, our children”.
Giuseppe Governale
In order to make the arrest, police and military agents had to cut off the power in the Vatican, as well as dim the live cam. This was noticed by web-sleuths, who quickly became suspicious of what was happening in the Vatican.

BREAKING ALERT: Following a nation-wide #blackout in Pakistan, there is now a widespread blackout at the Vatican. pic.twitter.com/4QrRQsIRlt
— anoncat🐈‍⬛🏴 (@anoncatnews) January 10, 2021


BREAKING: The Vatican is going through a blackout. pic.twitter.com/ILICeGxvsE
🇮🇱הנותרים🇮🇱 (@Remaining33) January 10, 2021

Some people speculated the Pope could be the “first arrest.” And it appears they were right in their speculation. According to the Interpol agents, this is the “first out of many.”

Maybe the Pope will be the first arrest that will shock the world.
— Dennisse (@DennisseLisseth) January 10, 2021

The judge has imposed a EU wide publication ban. Fortunately, the ban doesn’t affect Canada or the US, and the Conservative Beaver received the exclusive scoop for this story via a confidential Italian contact.
 
Based on what is happening, do you think it is a good idea to get on parker or gab? Or is this a way to get names?

Aside from the fact that Parler will be nonexistent in less than 24 hours after Amazon shuts down the cloud servers they rely on for their backbone, Parler also requires your phone number - so yes, you're giving up personal info. It also has big money behind it, which is very suspicious.

Gab owns its own servers, and is entirely user-supported. It's almost unusably slow right now due to the massive influx of new users. The CEO, Andrew Yorba, is an open Trump supporter, an unapologetic Christian, and a free speech fundamentalist. So he's unlikely to fold due to financial or social pressure, and additionally has enough of his own infrastructure that taking Gab offline is more difficult. That said they do rely on Cloudfare for DDOS protection, and Cloudfare has deplatformed right wing sites already.

While Gab only requires an email, which doesn't need to be tied to your identity, your ISP will of course see all the traffic from your IP if you aren't using a VPN. Further, given how rapidly things are moving, I wouldn't be entirely surprised if Gab just got raided by the FBI under the pretext that the site is enabling 'violent extremism' (an obvious lie but a narrative they're already trying to run with), at which point it would be quite easy for the Feds to figure out the identies of everyone who was using the service.

Another thing worth keeping in mind about both Parler and Gab is that the user-base of both sites is strongly self-selected politically, so there isn't really the ability to interact with the general public. Then again, that ability no longer exists on the mainline social media sites.
 

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