2024 US election: A Kennedy presidency? Trump again? Will it be rigged?

Exactly! Beside the fact that Kamala is, basically, a chameleon and tries to fit in with whomever she is speaking to, she is all Deep State. A puppet that they can easily control. The people were not just voting against her, but the whole repugnant policies that were put into place during Biden's term and she would continue and add to.

Where as Trump is against all of those policies and wants to bring an end to them. Such as seeing pedophilia as okay, the transgender ideology and child sexual mutilation, open borders and making illegal aliens so nice and comfy, criminals getting free passes and innocents being locked up for saying the wrong thing, etc.

This election has nothing to do with race.

Maybe Kamala felt the pressure and didn't want to win the election. Maybe all the weird ways she has acted and the strange laughing was her getting a kick out of her performance, knowing people would find it strange and non-presidential to say the least. Not sure it matters..., it's just a thought I have. Also, I think most performers and so called artists she brought on stage are associated with P Diddy, and I think by now most people are aware of that situation as well and it just doesn't look good. So kind of a mocking way of trying to get people not to vote for them perhaps. Also, she had a gleam in her eyes when she did the concession.
 
Maybe Kamala felt the pressure and didn't want to win the election. Maybe all the weird ways she has acted and the strange laughing was her getting a kick out of her performance, knowing people would find it strange and non-presidential to say the least. Not sure it matters..., it's just a thought I have. Also, I think most performers and so called artists she brought on stage are associated with P Diddy, and I think by now most people are aware of that situation as well and it just doesn't look good. So kind of a mocking way of trying to get people not to vote for them perhaps. Also, she had a gleam in her eyes when she did the concession.
For what it's worth, although I couldn't pinpoint the type (borderline? histrionic?) I think she is a good study in a pathological/character disturbed individual. That is - it's dangerous to prescribe normal (or even close to normal) human motivation to such individuals.
The gleam in her eye for example could be rage, or desire for revenge, or perhaps even foreknowledge of future carnage/death to come.
As a generalised rule of thumb, these type of pathological individuals are happiest manipulating/gaslighting/twisting their victims minds/thinking, getting their own way and seeking disproportionate/pathologically persistent revenge when they don't, and above all they tend to enjoy the suffering/death of others.
Maybe try to re-read her through those lenses?
 
Some election stats on ethnicity and religion. (These are from exit polls, not official results.)

So basically Blacks, Jews, Muslims, Atheists voted for the Dems, plus Asians (more moderately).
Whites voted more for Trump, Hispanics leaned towards Dems (although much less so than usual).
And guess who voted for Trump the most? That's right, Native Americans!



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Some election stats on ethnicity and religion. (These are from exit polls, not official results.)

So basically Blacks, Jews, Muslims, Atheists voted for the Dems, plus Asians (more moderately).
Whites voted more for Trump, Hispanics leaned towards Dems (although much less so than usual).
And guess who voted for Trump the most? That's right, Native Americans!



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I read this Marsden article that noted the % change in minorities who swung to Trump this election. She has an interesting take that the 'divided nation' narrative is mostly just a narrative. Maybe America is far less divided than we think?


Certain categories of voters really capture the story of this election. The first is white women with college degrees, 11% more of whom voted for Harris than for Biden in 2020. Institutional establishment brainwashing and virtue signaling apparently works more effectively on well-formatted brains, female or otherwise. The message from the party hacks and their celebrity surrogates was that abortion was really all that should matter to women, reducing them to one-dimensional caricatures of actual human beings. But it turns out that many more women than they figured don’t like being talked down to and treated as little more than a walking uterus – even by other women. Which would explain why white women with no degree voted overwhelmingly for Trump by 25 points over Harris, and even voters of color with no degree, generally considered a lock by Democrats, still voted by 14 points less for Harris than for Biden four years ago.

The youngest voters, aged 18-29, who you’d figure would be most directly affected by reproductive rights issues, either as women themselves or their white-knighting male counterparts who were constantly told by Democrats that they had to cast their vote primarily in support of the reproductive rights of the women in their life, actually ended up shifting their vote to Trump by 11 points compared to 2020.

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It also turns out that people like a good laugh, still know what a joke is, and aren’t buying into the Democrat and establishment hysteria that takes people for idiots in pretending not to. Democrats and their proxies were convinced that a joke by a professional comedian about Puerto Rico at a late-campaign Trump rally would tank the Latino vote. Instead, Trump ended up winning it among Latino men by ten points. And even Latina women shifted to Trump in this election by 15 points compared with 2020.

America isn’t divided. At least not as much as we’ve been led to believe. Normal, average, non-brainwashed people of all stripes, who can still judge reality by what they see and experience in their daily life rather than what they’re told to think by the establishment’s Hollywood and corporate media minstrels and court jesters, have fully availed themselves of the opportunity to express themselves in the most democratic way possible. And their message is that Trump isn’t the radical – the establishment is.

Meanwhile, I've seen posts on X where leftists are taking out their infantile bitterness and resentment on all those traitorous non-Whites, going so far as to call for them all to be forcibly deported, or re-educated, beaten by the police, or killed. It's an absolutely top-notch show of their deep and reverent respect for diversity of course, perfectly in line with their professed values of tolerance of difference.
 
Yes. Seems to me that Trump's win, in addition to just being an authentic mandate from most of the voters in the US (not to mention running an excellent campaign) - may very well also be an extension or continuation of the free will 'rules' that had to be observed by higher forces; making another successful fix in the presidential elections a very bad option for them. This all begs the question though of just what is in their power, at this point, to subvert, sabotage and wreck as they re-calibrate their plans for achieving more Totalitarian control, chaos, and destruction.
Even in V for Vendetta the Chancellor needed to scare people into consent and justify his existence. I believe the C’s once said that the reason aliens can’t just come in and take over by force is because everyone would turn against them. And they often said the real battle is always through us. So it seems to me that the will of the masses and what they can see is important. This gives me hope that if the numbers of people tired of this crap continues to grow, and they increasingly see the deep state for what it is, it might actually limit STS ability to engage with force.

I think the greatest thing Trump did in his first term is to bring the concept of the deep state and fake news media into public awareness. It’s like he planted a seed, and it has since grown into a sapling.

Ask most republicans or conservatives and they probably have some idea about the evil and corruption of our institutions and the media. It’s no longer just a conversation about policies and religion and abortion and that kind of stuff like previous elections. In the minds of an increasing number of people, thanks to Trump talking about it openly in his 2015 campaign and beyond like no one ever did before, it is a battle of good vs evil. What is interesting is that the evil side, the Empire, has also turned it from policies to an existential battle. Trump is literally the devil incarnate, Hitler, etc. This isn’t normal rhetoric for any other past election. This is very new.

All those liberals going through hysteria is also new from 2016 - it’s not like “oh well better luck next time” as people used to feel after losing an election. So the entire dynamic has changed into an existential good vs evil battle, it’s an actual war of sorts, and no wonder people on both sides feel so strongly about it.

I guess one question to ask is why now? Why didn’t we do all this crap before? Why have politics become such a desperate and existential battle for what seems like survival? I don’t think it just accidentally happened and everyone just rolled with it for no reason. I don’t know what came first - Trump exposing the deep state or the deep state calling him the penultimate evil. If you remember in 2014/15 he was mostly called a clown at first. It was a big joke. It got very very serious at some point after that.

If I had to guess an answer, it’s because the C’s are right. We are in a special time. Things are progressing towards an actual battle of good vs evil - STO vs STS as the Wave approaches. But it is a battle for hearts and minds first and foremost. And I don’t know how conscious both sides are of why their rhetoric and terminology became so dire, but it feels natural. It would be weird for the landscape to be business as usual and suddenly you have a macro-cosmic quantum wave collapse with an armada in the sky. No way, the territory must be prepared. By the time the STS overlords show up there must be a welcoming committee. And similarly, the good guys are preparing an opposition. This requires that the population stops thinking that it’s all “politics as usual” and starts moving into much more fundamental battlegrounds which requires a certain amount of truth. The more they begin to see the deep state as the evil that it truly is, the more the evil needs to gaslight their supporters into the exact opposite perspective. “No, we are not the evil, they are!”

I think Cass and SOTT has planted the seeds for a much more public awareness of psychopathy which may have contributed to what happened since 2015 as well. However, I think that seed is yet to properly germinate but I do feel like we are close. Going from “deep state” to “psychopaths” (and eventually recognizing them as 4D STS pawns) is a much easier step to take than going from no awareness of anything and jumping straight to recognizing the psychopaths. So the gap is being bridged allowing the population to make that step, which won’t be a giant leap like it would be say in 2007 when SOTT psychopathy research was already in full swing.

Considering how long it took to get us to this current phase, maybe a decade (or 2 if you consider SOTT psychopathy research as the starting point), and considering that none of this is just random or coincidental, then my guess is the next step will probably not take too long. Maybe by the 2030’s or even sooner the public has a very real chance to take that next step, and maybe even the one after that.

All this means we need to hang on to our hats as those existential extremes are likely to escalate. It will be a mix of great sympathy for those suffering as the deep state strikes back, those lost sheep who follow it, and great elation and tears of joy when a large swath of the population finally reaches the same conclusions as we on this forum have been burdened with for decades now. It’s not long now, and I know I for one would be a blubbering mess if humans, even just a significant part of them, finally saw what is going on at the level that is necessary. I’m tearing up just thinking about it now.
 
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I read this Marsden article that noted the % change in minorities who swung to Trump this election. She has an interesting take that the 'divided nation' narrative is mostly just a narrative. Maybe America is far less divided than we think?

Yes, in particular it seems white women voted a lot for Trump (contrary to some of the online rhetoric), although less than men. It's also true that Trump gained many voters among different minorities. All in all I agree, it's pretty much normal people vs. brainwashed establishment people. Still, it's interesting that blacks and jews overwhelmingly voted Harris, if these exit polls are to be believed. Which historically is not so surprising, but I would have thought this might have changed somewhat with Trump.
 
One thing I'll say is that it feels like a cloud has lifted, like the control grid of doom has been temporarily broken. It will be much easier for people to say what they truly think going forward. Of course the dark overlords haven't finished, not by a long shot, but that's how it feels at the moment. Timeline shift vibes!
Yes, being in the US it's been a surreal few days. Feels like waking up to a different world. Is there even any point/use in assassinating him anymore? JD Vance would just step in. If you try to kill both of them, you're pretty much guaranteeing civil war. While I am worried for Trump's safety, particularly at the inauguration, I think the results are too much. We've lived with the Deep State in control for so long that it feels weird to not have the blob in control. I don't know what a timeline shift would actually feel like, but it certainly has the air of reality change.

- America had little to nothing to do with what Hitler did and therefore no obligation to help Israel in any fashion anymore based on any of those sentiments. Also, because there are almost no people living anymore who have even lived in those times. In other words: Nobody today participated in any of that nonsense, so, by definition, all Americans are clearly absolutely innocent of anything that happened there and therefore nobody in Israel has the right to demand anything from them in any fashion.
Not to mention a large percentage of Jewish voters did NOT vote for Trump. He does not have their support, so maybe he responds in kind. It is interesting that Bibi sacked his defense minister the day after the election. Maybe he senses that Trump will not support Israel's wars/genocide and wants to strike now before January and Gallant was not down with that.
 
Trump's reported 3 choices for Sec. of State: Marco Rubio, TN Senator Bill Hagerty, or Richard Grenell. I would be very happy to see Grenell get that post, or national security advisor. Been following him on Twitter for a few years now, he's very based and against the forever wars. He wants us out of Ukraine.
 
The last couple of days, I've kept having the recurring thought of Marvel and D.C.'s Avengers and Justice League when I look at Trump and see him surrounded by RFK jr., Gabbard, Musk, Vance.

I know, I know. Bad times are coming. Suffering blah blah bla, etc. etc., . But I just find it very striking. I believe we're in the calm before the storm, and it's going to be a bad storm. But for now, I honestly get a strong "AVENGERS ASSEMBLE!" vibe.
I could see the conversation between Trump and the Deep State cronies going something like this.

 
Pretty much. The only one is the payments to Daniels. Judge is expected to pass sentence on Nov. 26th, but as a first time offender, he'll likely just get a fine.
It appears even the Stormy Daniels case may get tossed

 
I read this Marsden article that noted the % change in minorities who swung to Trump this election. She has an interesting take that the 'divided nation' narrative is mostly just a narrative. Maybe America is far less divided than we think?




Meanwhile, I've seen posts on X where leftists are taking out their infantile bitterness and resentment on all those traitorous non-Whites, going so far as to call for them all to be forcibly deported, or re-educated, beaten by the police, or killed. It's an absolutely top-notch show of their deep and reverent respect for diversity of course, perfectly in line with their professed values of tolerance of difference.
I keep coming back to the C’s comment about the nephilim being set “against all” when the time comes. I always wondered how that could be given how divided we seem. They also once discussed the possibility of those aligned with the beast to be in "bubble" cities, and those aligned with Christ (or let's say STO candidates), to be in their own zones. But why is it that Kamala and her ilk always use platitudes and lies of goodness to gain support? They always act like they are so righteous and how much they love freedom and puppies etc. I'd say their supporters are mostly well-meaning people who are ignorant and naive and simply bought into the lies. Even the so-called libtards think they're doing what's right (without thinking too much about it). There aren’t that many consciously evil people out there, relative to the human population anyway. Very few people are consciously choosing to harm others.

In every war both sides think they're the good guys. And honestly both sides are probably composed of similarly good people, just propagandized against each other. Perhaps one side truly is justified as is often the case, but the other side isn't composed of consciously evil army either, just fools.

So I really do think that we're not so much drawing battle lines between 2 roughly equal sections of humanity here, like the election might make it seem. It's probably mostly a matter of waking up those still sleeping, but in the meantime keeping in mind what master they serve until that happens. Good intentions pave the way to hell, after all.

I'm kinda divided between enjoying libtards losing their minds and remembering that those could one day be our allies, if they receive enough of a shock to wake up. Not all of them, some will remain stubbornly stuck in their delusions til the bitter end. And maybe poking fun of their meltdowns is part of that shock process anyway. I think part of the reason we do it is because, one, they're acting ridiculous like children with no emotional control, and two, we're a little bitter about the hell that their "good intentions" but massive ignorance has brought upon all of us who have to live and suffer through it.

However, I'd much rather see them be shocked into seeing the truth than become cannon fodder. I don't hold any serious resentment towards them as people, I'm just mostly frustrated that they're such easy ignorant tools of the psychopaths. Honestly I don't even hold serious resentment towards psychopaths because they also can't do anything but what they're doing.

So I guess my point is that there's no hate in my heart for any of them - just frustration that it is the way it is, and impatience for those of them who can, to wake up. I don't see them as enemies - maybe temporary agents of the matrix, but I'm an optimist, so I hope many of them will snap out of it eventually (hopefully before they burn down the whole world with them).
 
Every new development feels so surreal. So what are the 'facts' at this stage?

• We're in an STS realm having 'fell' here 309k years ago

• It was said we fell for a trap but that free will cannot be abridged so we collectively agreed to be here now (which ties in nicely to the current events and program change)

• Possibly part of this fall had to do with the changing of the guard a la Mazda vs Ahriman

• We are said to be at the threshold of another transition now, and if everyone is positioning themselves now for what their 'next' incarnation will be, their place in the cosmos as the Cs put it, then what should we be looking out for regarding a possible trap we need to avoid?

• 2016 was the mass planting of the seed of awareness via Trump regarding deep state, psycopathology, etc for all those still unaware

• 2020 Covid and later the election were a test, a last saving grace to see through the lies according to Cs. Many people failed Covid, but the war is not over

• Many more people passed the 2020 election, having seen through the steal, and even more now it seems are seeing major flags about it all. Will they have the inner strength to handle the deep introspection needed to flush out those detrimental thought patterns and emotions?

• There was a program change, and now on the surface it not only looks like a return to normal but more so a push past normal into sane and healthy. Never in my life would I have dreamed to see the statements I'm seeing from politicians today regarding the future roadmap

• And of course can't go without mentioning the increasing alien presence and awareness and push for same

• Cs and Pierre confirmed recently great suffering is coming for many, that will ultimately lead to a new world

So where is it all leading?
 
For what it's worth, although I couldn't pinpoint the type (borderline? histrionic?) I think she is a good study in a pathological/character disturbed individual. That is - it's dangerous to prescribe normal (or even close to normal) human motivation to such individuals.
The gleam in her eye for example could be rage, or desire for revenge, or perhaps even foreknowledge of future carnage/death to come.
As a generalised rule of thumb, these type of pathological individuals are happiest manipulating/gaslighting/twisting their victims minds/thinking, getting their own way and seeking disproportionate/pathologically persistent revenge when they don't, and above all they tend to enjoy the suffering/death of others.
Maybe try to re-read her through those lenses?

I completely agree, and that is what I meant as well. My point was that I get the impression that they knew they were losing and decided to go out with a "bang" bringing all these P Diddy-affiliated artists out, that people are starting to really despise. And that her laughter is her getting a kick out of fooling people (which in her position is not even close to normal human motivation). Just my 2 cents with the question of how aware they have been that they were going to lose.
 

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