2024 US election: A Kennedy presidency? Trump again? Will it be rigged?

I allow myself a moment of enthusiasm for Trump's victory, but returning to reality; despite the program changes and the possible implications of that, the latter would have to do with balance, therefore I do not believe that in general terms the deep state will "soften", it is more despite the fact that they have reluctantly allowed this victory or others with their own agendas see certain benefits in all this, there are sectors that feel the pressure of the changes that are coming and seem to have no time, Trump apparently has more allies this time so part of the deep state's agenda would be hindered, I think it is quite probable that they will try by all means to stain Trump by artificially creating difficult situations, a dangerous game in a certain sense since more people will be able to see the magician behind the curtain, but it remains to be seen once again if it is enough to prevent the United States from paying its Karma in a certain way at the end of the day.
Pray a lot for him!
Well stated IMO.
 
What i wonder is how Trump is going to handle the sionist/jews question ?
If we had to summarize in one word who is behind the PTB, at least this is my opinion, it's "the sionists"
Even if the PTB is filled with plenty corrupted wasp people, who corrupted them ?
Who is behind blackrock, vanguard and so on ?
Or if you read this recent article from Caitlin Johnsone , she has good args. I didn't know that Trump was given 100M by a rich jews family.
How do one want him to re-open the Epstein case seriously with that ? Better to let it closed than create a parody of investigation that would deceive anyone here. Other aspects, like who mostly own the mainstream medias, hollywood, big pharma, and so on ?

If some here have some clues just answer back. Usually i have my ideas, but here i do not, i just think we'll be deceived on some points, on some decisions or half-decisions Trump and his team will make. It's not possible to really drain the swamp without draining all the sionists who are at ... dunno, 70, 80% (more ?) behind all of what is not working in the US (and the occidental countries).
 
I completely agree, and that is what I meant as well. My point was that I get the impression that they knew they were losing and decided to go out with a "bang" bringing all these P Diddy-affiliated artists out, that people are starting to really despise. And that her laughter is her getting a kick out of fooling people (which in her position is not even close to normal human motivation). Just my 2 cents with the question of how aware they have been that they were going to lose.
Ah - I see your point. I'm still undecided on that.
Maybe someone did know at some level, but I don't think Harris herself knew.
Part of the uncertainty comes from pathological types becoming more and more inept/incompetent as the years roll on. Harris doesn't seem particularly smart, and I suspect her 'team' isn't either. So how much was 'planned failure' and how much was 'idiocy/incompetence/wishful thinking'. I lean toward the latter - at least at the level of Harris and her 'team'.
Maybe someone above them set that up, but again they also may be incompetent/wishfully thinking.
Their certainly seemed to be infighting between Harris and Biden (even if not quite directly), which was also interesting.

I think Cass and SOTT has planted the seeds for a much more public awareness of psychopathy which may have contributed to what happened since 2015 as well. However, I think that seed is yet to properly germinate but I do feel like we are close. Going from “deep state” to “psychopaths” (and eventually recognizing them as 4D STS pawns) is a much easier step to take than going from no awareness of anything and jumping straight to recognizing the psychopaths. So the gap is being bridged allowing the population to make that step, which won’t be a giant leap like it would be say in 2007 when SOTT psychopathy research was already in full swing.

It may be a small sample, but I've noticed more commentors and more recently podcasters/writers/celebrities themselves mentioning psychopaths when it comes to government officials all over the world. Heck even people describing Trump as a narcissist is an improvement in accuracy - even if it misses the mark and is perhaps just ideologically driven.
I could see the conversation between Trump and the Deep State cronies going something like this.


Thinking about the above I remember a crucial point for Laura (and by extension the group) was the study into psychopathy (and then other characteropathies) after direct and indirect experiences with them.
Trump has been face to face with in his first term (and stabbed in the back by them) - now up to and including the attempted assassination attempt. So he has been exposed to these types and their conspiracies (against him) in real time. His supporters got that lesson too.
RFK has a lifetime of that starting indirectly with other family members, and then moving to him.
Elon has had his fair share - including uncovering another real time conspiracy (by pathological government/intel types) at twitter.

So making sure the information is out there for people to find, to help them refine their understanding, as they continue to confront the reality of the situation is crucial I think. But the seeds certainly seem to have been planted and be bearing some early fruit.
We just need to keep seeding (or sharing the fruit) to make sure the information gets through more clearly, if and when it can.

I'm kinda divided between enjoying libtards losing their minds and remembering that those could one day be our allies, if they receive enough of a shock to wake up. Not all of them, some will remain stubbornly stuck in their delusions til the bitter end. And maybe poking fun of their meltdowns is part of that shock process anyway. I think part of the reason we do it is because, one, they're acting ridiculous like children with no emotional control, and two, we're a little bitter about the hell that their "good intentions" but massive ignorance has brought upon all of us who have to live and suffer through it.

However, I'd much rather see them be shocked into seeing the truth than become cannon fodder.
Agreed. On the note of humour, this last part of Matt Walsh's video made me laugh way too much:

 
If it is about balance and inevitable ownership reversal for a major cycle (aka ahura mazda vs ahirman aka sto vs sts) and comets play a role in it, how it all will play out?
The programming is complete as the C's say. It's going to take some suffering to wake some of the woke out of their delusion, but others will not see the light no matter what it seems. A viable culture or nation needs people who care about each other and can work together. I guess if these people cannot overcome their anger and hatred for other citizens they may be better off dead, they cannot function in a normal, non-ponerized society. They are like spoiled children who can never grow up.
 
I wonder what the real election results were. I suspect Trump won by a huge margin.
I think so too. According to one election-fraud analysis (below), vote fraud really took off in 2004, and then spiked again in 2020. I suspect there's still a large base level of cheating, especially in the "always blue" states. Trump narrowed the margin by like 10 points in each of these states this election. His actual numbers are probably even better. (Who knows if that would be enough to actually win those states, though.)

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My guess based on the graph: they expected to win in 2016 using more or less the baseline level of cheating, but that didn't work. Covid offered them the opportunity to cheat on a whole new level using the unprecedented number of mail-in ballots. 2024 was a return to baseline levels of cheating due to all the factors already discussed.

As for how big the baseline is, if the Cs' numbers were correct, that could give us an idea. Here are the official results:

Trump - 46.1% - 62,984,828 votes
Clinton - 48.2% - 65,853,514 votes
Turnout - 60.1% - total of 136,669,276 votes

According to the Cs, this was what actually happened:

Trump - 63% - which implies about 83,000,000 votes
Clinton - 37% max (31% min, given votes for other presidential candidates) - which implies a max of around 49,000,000 votes
Turnout - 58% - which implies a total of around 132,000,000 votes

So if these numbers are accurate, Trump was robbed of 20 million votes in 2016. In 2020, they added probably another 20 million or so to Biden. I wouldn't be surprised if Trump's actual popular vote number was higher than 63% this election...

And there's already evidence of fraud this election, particularly in the Senate races. E.g.,


An yet the swing states barely budged, allegedly. That doesn't seem very likely.


Simplicus on Substack has a pretty good analysis on what went down before and during the elections, link:

Maybe that 'army of 500 lawyers' per state was the secret Trump was alluding to in one of his speeches before the election? In any case, it's highly probable that they tried to do their usual 'tweaking' and dirty tricks on election day and that got them some benefit. I mean, in many states the race was kind'a tight with Harris receiving between 45%–49%. I cannot for my life believe those numbers. The reasons for why their election meddling didn't work this time can be attributed to, as Simplicus lays out, earthly matters and Trump teams brilliant strategy etc., but I have the sense that there was also some 'divine luck' involved. Maybe someone who was supposed to switch a hard drive or dump some ballots fell on their bike, or something. :-)
Good point that I forgot to mention in an earlier post on things that have changed between 2020 and 2024. There were several key court decisions the RNC fought for leading up to the election and on election day, e.g. ensuring deadlines for ballots to arrive, keeping polling stations open, or closing on time, etc. All these things seem to have made a difference.

BTW, here's Seth Keshel's victory lap piece:

 
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• There was a program change, and now on the surface it not only looks like a return to normal but more so a push past normal into sane and healthy. Never in my life would I have dreamed to see the statements I'm seeing from politicians today regarding the future roadmap
• And of course can't go without mentioning the increasing alien presence and awareness and push for same
• Cs and Pierre confirmed recently great suffering is coming for many, that will ultimately lead to a new world
So where is it all leading?
Its leading to Intelligence-Central Network here, I think. We have to establish our Civilian "NSA", militarizing our awareness to create a reconnaissance operation. Just imagine we are at war already! We cover almost the entire planet. Our eyes are everywhere globally. Any shady BLINK signal appears on your radar - or you just think you detect something sinister from the Deep State then you ought to report it here, I think. Focus-meditation and supplements for the brain are excellent to sharpen the mind, I think. We need to analyze what the Deep State might be up to based on media signals on an ongoing manner - in this New Global Situation - in order to raise our alertness. So we can keep course, where we would like this new world to go.
I don't wanna lose Team Trump to a communal awareness-hole mistake that nobody anticipated.

Ask questions frequently from this group when you present a report here, so that IMO as a direct effect of your question the need arises in a members mind here To Answer Thus Serve. Just like when we were STO in ancient times. Somebody here may be able to fish something out of the ether via spontaneous Seer Eye / ESP / Second Sight / PSI activation.

What we can expect regards Deep State attack on the Geopolitical stage. Beforehand. Before they do it. Because We Always Expect Attack. We must always know the modes of those [planned] attacks. So we can learn how to COUNTERACT those Deep State attacks. Via prayers, which are non-anticipatory. While always remaining aware, even in our sleep. Our minds sharp like razor. Our attention unwavering!!

That will cover the safety of Team Trump and Team Putin as far as awareness and Mass Prayers go, I think.
 
I don't understand what kind of nuance you are looking for here, or why you would try to shoehorn in identity politics from a bygone era. It's survive or die at this point, the Universe has really dumbed this lesson down and made it as obvious as possible.
One thing has nothing to do with the other. Yes, it’s a crazy show. Yes, Trump is the good white guy. Yes, Kamala is the evil black woman.

Which part of that is hard to understand?
This is what I mean about nuances : No, Trump isn't 'the good white guy' and no, Kamala isn't 'the evil black woman'. It's much more complex and I think that there is no obvious answer, except looking right and left, understanding that we don't know much of what's really going on, and being of service to the others as much as possible
Kamala isn't black. She took advantage of misconceptions about her race to gain the black vote.

She could be red, brown, blue, or purple, what matters is what she does, unless I am misunderstanding and you aren't bringing race into the equation.

I don't think anyone here is saying Trump is the messiah white angel coming to save us all, however, he might do some pretty cool things for humanity with a kick-ass team of people, let's wait and see!
Exactly! Beside the fact that Kamala is, basically, a chameleon and tries to fit in with whomever she is speaking to, she is all Deep State. A puppet that they can easily control. The people were not just voting against her, but the whole repugnant policies that were put into place during Biden's term and she would continue and add to.

Where as Trump is against all of those policies and wants to bring an end to them. Such as seeing pedophilia as okay, the transgender ideology and child sexual mutilation, open borders and making illegal aliens so nice and comfy, criminals getting free passes and innocents being locked up for saying the wrong thing, etc.

This election has nothing to do with race.
Of course I was kind of joking about these white and black memes.
May be Trump 'might do some pretty cool things for humanity' and I hope that he can bring an end to 'the whole repugnant policies that were put into place during Biden's term'.
 
May all of us reach our desired state and purpose whatever that may be without too much "want" by way of "natural progression".
That wanting to help others is STS is a difficult concept but I think I understand to some extent because I have attempted to help others in the past and it resulted in negative experiences no matter how 'nice' I was. The C's said that putting someone on the step behind you is integral to the progression of the soul. So this is a bit of a dilemma. My best guess is that truly helping others may put oneself at odds with them and can result in unpleasant experiences. Helping others probably often involves giving a lie what it's asking for - the truth. So if an STO candidate decides to act in a situation, he or she knows that the outcome can often be unpleasant for both parties. The candidate acts without being attached to the result, knowing that doing the right thing to help or inject truth often offers no reward, rather, it opens one up to suffering... of the voluntary kind, he who learns [in an STS world] must suffer.
 
I'd still caution that Trump and his super team (plus all patriotic Americans) will need to come to Terms with multipolarity.

The truth is Americas dominance on the world stage and monopoly on global governance will continue to be challenged. The question is, will Trump (plus patriotic Americans) accept a world where there are multiple poles of power as opposed to just the one?

China and Russia aren't going anywhere! 😬
 
I think so too. According to one election-fraud analysis (below), vote fraud really took off in 2004, and then spiked again in 2020. I suspect there's still a large base level of cheating, especially in the "always blue" states. Trump narrowed the margin by like 10 points in each of these states this election. His actual numbers are probably even better. (Who knows if that would be enough to actually win those states, though.)

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My guess based on the graph: they expected to win in 2016 using more or less the baseline level of cheating, but that didn't work. Covid offered them the opportunity to cheat on a whole new level using the unprecedented number of mail-in ballots. 2024 was a return to baseline levels of cheating due to all the factors already discussed.

As for how big the baseline is, if the Cs' numbers were correct, that could give us an idea. Here are the official results:

Trump - 46.1% - 62,984,828 votes
Clinton - 48.2% - 65,853,514 votes
Turnout - 60.1% - total of 136,669,276 votes

According to the Cs, this was what actually happened:

Trump - 63% - which implies 83,093,100 votes
Clinton - 37% max (31% min, given votes for other presidential candidates) - which implies a max of 48,800,710 votes
Turnout - 58% - which implies a total of 131,893,810 votes

So if these numbers are accurate, Trump was robbed of 20 million votes in 2016. In 2020, they added probably another 20 million or so to Biden. I wouldn't be surprised if Trump's actual popular vote number was higher than 63% this election...

And there's already evidence of fraud this election, particularly in the Senate races. E.g.,


An yet the swing states barely budged, allegedly. That doesn't seem very likely.



Good point that I forgot to mention in an earlier post on things that have changed between 2020 and 2024. There were several key court decisions the RNC fought for leading up to the election and on election day, e.g. ensuring deadlines for ballots to arrive, keeping polling stations open, or closing on time, etc. All these things seem to have made a difference.

BTW, here's Seth Keshel's victory lap piece:


Great analysis thanks for sharing
 
Please also spare a thought to the British Prime Minister who will now have to deal with Trump over the next few years and try and explain why his party was found meddling in the American elections 🫣.
 
That wanting to help others is STS is a difficult concept but I think I understand to some extent because I have attempted to help others in the past and it resulted in negative experiences no matter how 'nice' I was. The C's said that putting someone on the step behind you is integral to the progression of the soul. So this is a bit of a dilemma. My best guess is that truly helping others may put oneself at odds with them and can result in unpleasant experiences. Helping others probably often involves giving a lie what it's asking for - the truth. So if an STO candidate decides to act in a situation, he or she knows that the outcome can often be unpleasant for both parties. The candidate acts without being attached to the result, knowing that doing the right thing to help or inject truth often offers no reward, rather, it opens one up to suffering... of the voluntary kind, he who learns [in an STS world] must suffer.
Yeah I ran into the same problem so many times! I think to serve others effectively you need knowledge. For STS knowledge is optional. Sure being informed helps you find more sophisticated ways to serve self, but it doesn't take knowledge to do something hedonistic at a basic level. STO, on the other hand, is only in potential without knowledge - it can't be done impulsively or mechanically because you're very likely to do more harm than actually help. The more you know in general and also specifically about the person and their situation, the more you can meaningfully help them. It also keeps you from acting when you should stay out of it entirely.

I think at 3D STS level it's hard to imagine how one can act without first "wanting" to act (I'm referencing the C's session someone quoted earlier about how wanting is STS). But maybe it's because we overuse that word - it's like an umbrella term for every act of free will and might not always be appropriate. I don't even know if our vocabulary contains a word to properly describe an STO "impetus to action". There's words like "intend" or "choose", phrases like "doing the right thing" or "doing what's in me to do". You could say you're "acting on empathy" etc. They probably come closer, but maybe we won't be on the mark until we're actually STO, but if that's at 4D then maybe words will be optional at that point anyway.

But if you work hard to "know yourself" and probe your own motivations at all times, then it won't matter what word you use. You'll know you're doing the best you can with the knowledge you have, you're networking, you're striving to do the right thing, and I don't think anyone can expect anything more than that. The network will help correct you as needed, and the C's can help correct the network as needed, and right now that's gotta be good enough, I think. We're STO candidates after all, and we can't be fully expected to understand the next grade while being in this one.
 

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