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Re: Antarctica

I would like to see the news items backing up the various claims posted in this thread. Even if it does not directly deal with any "conspiracy", there should be traces in the news. For example, the visits of various dignitaries mentioned. Where are the verified news items? The tweet from the astronaut about evil: can we see it here, please?
 
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Buzz Aldrin‏Verified account @TheRealBuzz
https://twitter.com/TheRealBuzz/status/805479488280637440
Josie Poduti‏ @JPoduti64 9 Dec 2016
https://twitter.com/TheRealBuzz/status/805479488280637440
@TheRealBuzz How do you know what Mars looks like? What did you mean in your tweet about Antarctica & the evil there? What evil?

Buzz Aldrin‏Verified account @TheRealBuzz 4 Dec 2016
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Catching up on the world while I'm stuck in quarantine. Apparently @KimKardashian is out in public again.

Christina Korp‏ @Buzzs_xtina (Daughter of Mr. Aldrin)
https://twitter.com/Buzzs_xtina/status/805475977195159553
Before we went to the South Pole we were staying at the amazing #WhiteDesert Whichaway camp. Looked like #Mars except where the snow was.

Buzz Aldrin‏Verified account @TheRealBuzz 1 Dec 2016
https://twitter.com/TheRealBuzz/status/804399960162639872
Official statement about Buzz and his evacuation from the South Pole. He's recovering well in NZ. Full statement http://buzzaldr.in/2gN7a8U

Fighter4Freedom‏ @Fighter4Freed0m 10 Dec 2016
@TheRealBuzz @CitizenoftheWo4 @Buzzs_xtina why is everyone going to south pole recently?

Official updates on Buzz Aldrin
Dec 1, 2017 buzzaldrin.com By: Buzz Aldrin
http://buzzaldrin.com/south-pole-news/
STATEMENT FROM BUZZ ALDRIN ENTERPRISES 18:30 GMT Saturday 3rd December 2016.
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Buzz Aldrin is resting in hospital in Christchurch, New Zealand. He still has some congestion in his lungs so has been advised not to take the long flight home to the States and to rest in New Zealand while it clears up.

Having been cleared by doctors previously, Buzz took the trip to Antarctica to add to his exploration achievements after having spacewalked in orbit during the Gemini 12 mission in 1966, having walked on the Moon during the Apollo 11 mission in 1969, traveled down to see the Titanic in 1996 and to the North Pole in 1998. The trip to the South Pole is the capstone of his personal exploration achievements.

But his primary interest in coming to Antarctica was to experience and study conditions akin to Mars that are more similar there than any other place on earth.

“I’m extremely grateful to the National Science Foundation (NSF) for their swift response and help in evacuating me from the Admunsen-Scott Science Station to McMurdo Station and on to New Zealand. I had been having a great time with the group at White Desert’s camp before we ventured further south. I really enjoyed the time I spent talking with the Science Station’s staff too,”
said Aldrin from his hospital room.

“I started to feel a bit short of breath so the staff decided to check my vitals. After some examination they noticed congestion in my lungs and that my oxygen levels were low which indicated symptoms of altitude sickness. This prompted them to get me out on the next flight to McMurdo and once I was at sea level I began to feel much better. I didn’t get as much time to spend with the scientists as I would have liked to discuss the research they’re doing in relation to Mars. My visit was cut short and I had to leave after a couple of hours. I really enjoyed my short time in Antarctica and seeing what life could be like on Mars.”

“Finally, thanks to everyone from around the world for their well wishes and support. I’m being very well looked after in Christchurch. I’m looking forward to getting home soon to spend Christmas with my family and to continue my quest for Cycling Pathways and a permanent settlement on Mars. You ain’t seen nothing yet!”, concluded Aldrin.

EVACUATION TO CHRISTCHURCH NEW ZEALAND – 1915 UTC Thursday 1st December.
The evacuation flight for Buzz Aldrin has successfully landed at Christchurch, New Zealand and he has been transferred to hospital for examination. He is currently has fluid in his lungs but is responding well to antibiotics and being kept in overnight for observation. His condition is stable and his manager, who is currently with him, described him being in good spirits.
We would like to offer our sincere thanks to the team at the American National Science Foundation for accommodating Buzz and his manager on one of their flights from the South Pole to New Zealand via McMurdo.

There will be further updates when additional information is available.

ORIGINAL HOLDING STATEMENT FROM WHITE DESERT ABOUT SOUTH POLE MEDICAL EVACUATION
Buzz Aldrin has been evacuated from the South Pole. He was visiting the Pole as part of a tourist group operated by White Desert and while there his condition deteriorated. As a precaution, following discussion between White Desert’s doctor and the US Antarctic Program doctor, Buzz, accompanied by his manager, was evacuated on the first available flight out of the South Pole to McMurdo with the USAP under the care of a USAP doctor. His condition was described as stable on hand-over to the USAP medical team.
This flight is still in progress and there will be further updates when additional information is available.
Christina Korp
Manager & Mission Control Director to
Dr. BUZZ ALDRIN Astronaut, Gemini 12 & Apollo XI
Buzz Aldrin Enterprises, Inc @buzzs_xtina @therealbuzz

Comments:
Joe says:
December 14, 2016 at 7:41 am
Get well soon. Is there any truth to your last Tweet before being evaced that “We are all in danger…”? Please elaborate, if you can.

LOUIS M.EASTON says:
December 9, 2016 at 8:28 pm
Dear Buzz, im happy to hear you’re doing better. The whole world thinks you tweeted “WE ARE ALL IN DANGER. IT IS EVIL ITSELF.” I WAS WONDERING IF YOU TWEETED THIS AND IF SO WHAT ARE YOU TRYING TO TELL US?

Buzz Aldrin Recovers from Medical Evacuation by Catching Up on the Kardashians - AceCelebrity says:
December 4, 2016 at 2:01 pm
[…] The second person to walk on the moon in 1969, Aldrin was visiting Antarctica with a group hosted by luxury tourism operator White Desert when his “condition deteriorated,” according to a statement on his official website.

Buzz Aldrin
Public Nov 29, 2016
Buzz's Polar Penguins countdown to liftoff has commenced. #Antarctica #WhiteDesert 
http://icecream.me/uploads/62ed4d7122625ea4cabe3f025b54969d.png

Antarctica
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antarctica
The elevation of the South Pole is 2,835 meters (9,300 feet), about the same height as mountain top observatories like Kitt Peak, Arizona. Some parts of the Antarctic Plateau are higher than 4,215 meters (13,830 feet), the altitude of Mauna Kea, Hawaii.

Meteorites
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antarctica#Meteorites

Meteorites from Antarctica are an important area of study of material formed early in the solar system; most are thought to come from asteroids, but some may have originated on larger planets. The first meteorite was found in 1912, and named the Adelie Land meteorite. In 1969, a Japanese expedition discovered nine meteorites. Most of these meteorites have fallen onto the ice sheet in the last million years. Motion of the ice sheet tends to concentrate the meteorites at blocking locations such as mountain ranges, with wind erosion bringing them to the surface after centuries beneath accumulated snowfall. Compared with meteorites collected in more temperate regions on Earth, the Antarctic meteorites are well-preserved.[126]

This large collection of meteorites allows a better understanding of the abundance of meteorite types in the solar system and how meteorites relate to asteroids and comets. New types of meteorites and rare meteorites have been found. Among these are pieces blasted off the Moon, and probably Mars, by impacts. These specimens, particularly ALH84001 discovered by ANSMET, are at the centre of the controversy about possible evidence of microbial life on Mars. Because meteorites in space absorb and record cosmic radiation, the time elapsed since the meteorite hit the Earth can be determined from laboratory studies. The elapsed time since fall, or terrestrial residence age, of a meteorite represents more information that might be useful in environmental studies of Antarctic ice sheets.[126]

In 2006 a team of researchers from Ohio State University used gravity measurements by NASA's GRACE satellites to discover the 500-kilometre-wide (300 mi) Wilkes Land crater, which probably formed about 250 million years ago.[127]

In January 2013 an 18 kg (40 lb) meteorite was discovered frozen in ice on the Nansen ice field by a Search for Antarctic Meteorites, Belgian Approach (SAMBA) mission.[128]

In January 2015 reports emerged of a 2-kilometre (1.2 mi) circular structure, supposedly a meteorite crater, on the surface snow of King Baudouin Ice Shelf. Satellite images from 25 years ago seemingly show it.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antarctica#/media/File:ALH84001.jpg
Antarctic meteorite, named ALH84001, from Mars
 
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So, there is this:

Fighter4Freedom‏ @Fighter4Freed0m 10 Dec 2016
@TheRealBuzz @CitizenoftheWo4 @Buzzs_xtina why is everyone going to south pole recently?

And this in comments under an update on his condition:

Joe says:
December 14, 2016 at 7:41 am
Get well soon. Is there any truth to your last Tweet before being evaced that “We are all in danger…”? Please elaborate, if you can.

LOUIS M.EASTON says:
December 9, 2016 at 8:28 pm
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Dear Buzz, im happy to hear you’re doing better. The whole world thinks you tweeted “WE ARE ALL IN DANGER. IT IS EVIL ITSELF.” I WAS WONDERING IF YOU TWEETED THIS AND IF SO WHAT ARE YOU TRYING TO TELL US?

No evidence of the actual tweets by Aldrin?

What about all the "other people" said to be traveling to Antarctica???
 
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What is also interesting, is being first admitted (perhaps) to an ICU unit, then (as a precautionary..?), to a Quarantine unit. Just like his Apollo11 flight Quarantine.

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Apollo11 crew in quarantine. L to R Neil A. Armstrong; Michael Collins; Edwin E. Aldrin Jr. and President Nixon welcoming the crew

Contents: Isolation vs Quarantine
http://www.diffen.com/difference/Isolation_vs_Quarantine


Added:
Buzz Aldrin Warns “We Are All In Danger It Is Evil Itself” Dec 12, 2016
_https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=je_Rvwyvwyo
 
Re: Antarctica

The only state official who visisted Antarctica was John Kerry

https://www.nytimes.com/2016/11/16/science/antarctica-john-kerry-global-warming.html?_r=0

The rest can't be verified I believe? when John Kerry visited, the rumors started and stories start popping up. I don't understand why they would invite an ex-astronaut to see alien tech in antarctica. What would be the purpose? More likely It was just an expedition like his tweets said it was.

It appears that Lockhead Martin is building all kinds of things on Antarctica for research. in 2012 they won a 2 billion contract and their activity have been increasing on the contintent ever since.

And then ofcourse there was that picture that looked like a pyramid, but could also be a natural formation.

That's all I know. It might just be another disinfo program, the last few months there are a lot of stories popping up about Antarctica. And since Antarctica and aliens always seem to mix together in sensational stories people consume a lot of time and energy on it.

It's either the usual disinfo at play. Or disinfo is going in hyperdrive because something is actually going on there. Whatever it is, if it's alien related, I doubt humans are allowed to trespass. So why are they now? Thinking about it more, I doubt there is something going on there that needs our attention? But I might be missing something.
 
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Some links
2016- Kerry goes to Antarctica: _https://www.nytimes.com/2016/11/16/science/antarctica-john-kerry-global-warming.html?_r=0
2016- Patriarch Kirill: _https://www.rt.com/news/332835-patriarch-kirill-antarctic-penguins/
2013- Prince Harry: _http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/prince-harry/10517769/Prince-Harry-Antarctic-trek-team-mates-pay-tribute-to-the-Royal.html
2003- Juan Carlos: _http://www.thinkspain.com/news-spain/2178/king-juan-carlos-visits-antarctic-research-bases

So only two are really recent. Could be something, or it could be a fluke of influential people showing off by exploring "vast frontiers."
 
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Here's a Washington Post article about Patriarch Kyrill's https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.washingtonpost.com/amphtml/news/worldviews/wp/2016/02/18/for-russias-church-leader-a-trip-to-antarctica-is-not-just-a-photo-op/
 
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Laura said:
So, there is this:

Fighter4Freedom‏ @Fighter4Freed0m 10 Dec 2016
@TheRealBuzz @CitizenoftheWo4 @Buzzs_xtina why is everyone going to south pole recently?

And this in comments under an update on his condition:

Joe says:
December 14, 2016 at 7:41 am
Get well soon. Is there any truth to your last Tweet before being evaced that “We are all in danger…”? Please elaborate, if you can.

LOUIS M.EASTON says:
December 9, 2016 at 8:28 pm
Quote

Dear Buzz, im happy to hear you’re doing better. The whole world thinks you tweeted “WE ARE ALL IN DANGER. IT IS EVIL ITSELF.” I WAS WONDERING IF YOU TWEETED THIS AND IF SO WHAT ARE YOU TRYING TO TELL US?

No evidence of the actual tweets by Aldrin?

What about all the "other people" said to be traveling to Antarctica???

There are some blurry screen captures of the deleted tweet but I am not convinced it was Aldrin's real twitter account:

buzz%2Baldrin%2Btweet.jpg
 
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For whatever it's worth, Prince Albert of Monaco went there in 2009. _http://www.palais.mc/en/news/h-s-h-prince-albert-ii/official-visit/2009/january/prince-albert-ii-in-antarctica-1381.html

Even Putin was considering it in 2013. _https://themoscowtimes.com/articles/putin-to-visit-antarctica-21017 I can't see where he ever followed through with it, just stating recently that Russia's presence in Antarctica was "vitally important" and has a round-the-world voyage planned for the Baltic fleet with a stop there.

Lots of smoke, but no real fire visible.
 
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Neil said:
For whatever it's worth, Prince Albert of Monaco went there in 2009. _http://www.palais.mc/en/news/h-s-h-prince-albert-ii/official-visit/2009/january/prince-albert-ii-in-antarctica-1381.html

Even Putin was considering it in 2013. _https://themoscowtimes.com/articles/putin-to-visit-antarctica-21017 I can't see where he ever followed through with it, just stating recently that Russia's presence in Antarctica was "vitally important" and has a round-the-world voyage planned for the Baltic fleet with a stop there.

Lots of smoke, but no real fire visible.

Jun 10, 2016
The Russian Navy launched its new military Ilya Muromets-class icebreaker from St. Petersburg's Admiralty Shipyards, on Friday, the first vessel of its kind to be made by the shipyard in 30 years.

Edit Added:

Russian Navy ship Admiral Vladimirsky begins research off Antarctica
January 19, 2016 Interfax
_http://rbth.com/news/2016/01/19/russian-navy-ship-admiral-vladimirsky-begins-research-off-antarctica_560651
Snip:
"The last time Russian Navy ships sailed to Antarctica was 33 years ago," the spokesperson said. Back then, during a 1982/83 round-the-world expedition, Russian Navy ships were surveying the Antarctic coast and adjacent seas.
 
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I remember this from last year:

Published on Oct 12, 2016
The Russian Arctic National Park released video, Wednesday, showing what it believes are the remains of a World War II-era Nazi meteorological station called the 'Schatzgraber' or 'Treasure Hunter'.

Around 500 artefacts were discovered on Alexandra Land in the middle of August 2016, with the expedition ending in October.

Expedition members say the findings have significant historical value, after they unearthed pieces of military uniforms, ammunition, household objects, and meteorological equipment. Some of the items are reportedly dated as from 1942, with others bearing Nazi swastikas.

 
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Hi Alana, this discovery took place in the Arctic Circle not Antarctica.

"“More specifically, the finding was made last August —as local media reveals—in Alexandra, an island located more than 1,000 kilometers from the North Pole…While people were cautious when the discovery was made a couple of months ago due to the lack of images and conclusive evidence, the news has gone viral as the team has posted a video where we can see a number of artifacts and the base completely in ruins.” _http://www.inquisitr.com/3628205/secret-nazi-base-on-alexandra-land-really-discovered-on-wikipedia-page/(video above)
 
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I find it interesting that the Antarctica continent has been sliced up like a pie and distributed to numerous nations, except a region in the area of Marie Byrd Land (about an 1/8 of the pie):
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What is odd is the ABSENCE of a German claim. Did they, "the Deutschlanders" perhaps build their underground base in the area known as Marie Byrd land ? Afterall, it's supposed to be a secret Nazi base.

Actually, the US has made attempts to claim this territory, as well as a Californian citizen. According to Wiki, Travis McHenry, claimed Marie Byrd land as a micronation:
Travis McHenry is an American actor, director, and entrepreneur who is also the self-appointed dictatorial ruler of two micronations, one, called Calsahara, founded in 2009 and located within the state of California and the other, called the Grand Duchy of Westarctica, located on the continent of Antarctica.

McHenry founded Westarctica in 2001 by claiming that a loophole in the Antarctic Treaty left a large swathe of land between 90° W and 150° W unclaimed by any nation.[1] That treaty also stated that the same territory could not, by international agreement, be claimed by any nation, and so McHenry acted to claim it as an individual. In pursuit of this claim he sent letters to the governments of the United States, Great Britain, Russia and others explaining the nature of his claim, all of which, however, went unanswered.[2]

The Grand Duchy of Westarctica,(again according to Wiki :/):
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On November 2, 2001, Travis McHenry decided to claim Marie Byrd Land as a country upon discovering that no country yet claimed it. However, this was because the Antarctic Treaty prevented any new claims on Antarctica by countries. To get around this, McHenry claimed the land as an individual and then founded a country, the Achaean Territory of Antarctica, upon it. He sent letters to the governments of Russia, France, Norway, Australia, New Zealand, Argentina, Chile, the United States, and the United Kingdom to inform them of his claim. None of these countries responded to the letter.
This article fleshes out McHenry a bit more:
California’s Only Dictator Rules a Tiny Fake Nation in the Middle of Nowhere (one of the sources for Wiki info)
http://www.lamag.com/citythinkblog/meet-californias-only-dictator-ruler-of-the-micronation-calsahara/
....When I talked to His Excellency Travis McHenry, Dictator for Life, he was on break from jury duty (“So it turns out my status as a dictator is not sufficient to get me out of jury duty at the L.A. courthouse,” he wrote in an email a few days before our interview). A native Pennsylvanian, McHenry currently lives in West Hollywood. He visits Calsahara[his first micronation in CA] at least once a year, “just to sort of reassert the claim, raise the flag again, and make sure everything is OK—not stricken by wildfire or flooded or, you know, the natural disasters that do happen up there.” After all, a nation where 100 percent of the population is expats is pretty low maintenance. At his day job, McHenry recruits psychics to work for the largest psychic services company in the world.[couldn't verify this] Only occasionally does he don his trademark commissar cap and formally reign.
...

Calsahara isn’t McHenry’s first crack at a new country project; he founded Westarctica in 2001, claiming an eighth of the continent of Antarctica as his own through an alleged loophole in the Antarctic Treaty. An intelligence specialist in the U.S. Navy at the time, McHenry’s focus on anti-terrorism and foreign country intelligence gave him ample opportunity to ponder the operations of foreign nations and their governments. “Some of them are so ineptly and corruptly run,” he says, “that I said to myself, ‘Look, I can do this—anybody can run a country—this is easy!’” When his Navy superiors got wind of Westarctica and discovered that McHenry was communicating with foreign country leaders (writing them letters to convince them of his claim’s legitimacy) they required that he abdicate his throne. That was in 2006. Three years later, having left the military and moved out to California, he decided to get back in the game.

A more recent update on McHenry from Bloomberg, LP in 2015:
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2015-04-30/the-weird-wild-world-of-micronations-where-anybody-can-be-king
West Hollywood, Calif., where he works as a recruiter for a media company and advocates for climate change awareness.

Maybe this guy should be dismissed as an attention seeking kook, but given the above bolded lines, maybe this guy is acting as an intentional distraction regarding this unclaimed area. The US seems very busy surveying Marie Byrd Land, or if you prefer, The Grand Duchy of Westarctica, but the US are only maintaining bases on the area's perimeter. At least, that is what is being disclosed. The US doesn't even have a claimed piece of territory, per se, but they do maintain the base at the geographical South Pole, Amundssen-Scott base, and another base called McMurdo, the two bases connected by the McMurdo-South Pole Highway which crosses the Ross Ice Shelf.
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The Ross Ice Shelf, a thick, floating tongue of solid ice the size of Spain, is the biggest of the many such barriers that ring Antarctica and keep its ice sheets from sliding into the sea. Yet the shape of the sea floor beneath—a critical factor in how fast the shelf might melt—is virtually unknown. The ice keeps sonar-carrying ships out, and the water beneath it blocks radar. “It's the least known piece of ocean floor on our planet,” says Robin Bell, a geophysicist at Columbia University's Lamont-Doherty Earth Observatory in Palisades, New York
...
According to a study published in Science last December, the current has been warming since the 1970s and rising closer to the shelves, especially along the western peninsula of Antarctica. A new map could reveal whether that water has ready access to the underside of the Ross shelf. “Is there a deep pathway, a canyon, a valley that the water can run up like a road?” Bell asks. .
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The team of researchers will use USAF planes to fly over the Ross Ice Shelf and measure the seafloor bed in 36 flights
The USAF is helping scientists? Wonder if any data censoring will occur, cause that seems like an ideal entry into an underground base if by submarine.

Another interesting fact from the CIA World FactBook: "Bentley Subglacial Trench [not too far from the M-SP highway] is a vast topographic trench in Marie Byrd Land, West Antarctica, 80°S, 115°W. At 2,555 meters (8,382 ft) below sea level, the lowest known land point in Antarctica is hidden in the Bentley Subglacial Trench; at its surface is the deepest ice yet discovered and the world's lowest elevation not under seawater."

Interesting they know this despite the difficulty in measuring ice thickness. From a Cryoscience website:
http://www.cryosphericsciences.org/wg_glacierIceThickEst.html
Knowledge of the ice thickness distribution and the total volume of a glacier or ice cap is one of the most important prerequisites when addressing a number of glaciological and hydrological problems: It is essential for determining the subglacial topography, which is a necessary boundary condition for ice-flow modeling, and ultimately limits the amount of stored water, which is central for questions linked to water availability, hydrology, or sea level change. Despite this importance, knowledge about the ice thickness distribution of the various glaciers around the globe is remarkably limited. This fact is mainly due to the difficulties in measuring glacier ice thickness directly.

Maybe I'm missing some sort of new scientific technology for measuring land/trenches under the "deepest ice yet discovered".
Anyone got a scoop on this?

Not sure if there's anything to these contributions, but it does seem like there's some "smoke and mirrors" covering up something in the land down under. Kinda adds to the speculation about the whole "global warming/man made climate change" campaign and what they think can be learned from this continent.
I know.... where the heck is the entrance to the underground base so I can get outta this friggin cold!
 
Re: Antarctica

Nicolas said:
Laura said:
So, there is this:

Fighter4Freedom‏ @Fighter4Freed0m 10 Dec 2016
@TheRealBuzz @CitizenoftheWo4 @Buzzs_xtina why is everyone going to south pole recently?

And this in comments under an update on his condition:

Joe says:
December 14, 2016 at 7:41 am
Get well soon. Is there any truth to your last Tweet before being evaced that “We are all in danger…”? Please elaborate, if you can.

LOUIS M.EASTON says:
December 9, 2016 at 8:28 pm
Quote

Dear Buzz, im happy to hear you’re doing better. The whole world thinks you tweeted “WE ARE ALL IN DANGER. IT IS EVIL ITSELF.” I WAS WONDERING IF YOU TWEETED THIS AND IF SO WHAT ARE YOU TRYING TO TELL US?

No evidence of the actual tweets by Aldrin?

What about all the "other people" said to be traveling to Antarctica???

There are some blurry screen captures of the deleted tweet but I am not convinced it was Aldrin's real twitter account:

buzz%2Baldrin%2Btweet.jpg

I think that is a fake tweet because it does not have a blue check mark next to the name Buzz Aldrin.

Here's a tweet from Buzz before he went to Antarctica.
_https://twitter.com/TheRealBuzz/status/803488279660216320
 

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