Esprit said:Russia probably wants to avoid further conflicts being already involved in Syria. It's a very tough decision to go to help another country, even when asked as it seems to be the case, and this is probably what the western military wants to happen. Get Russia involved in a though war hoping to see it financially collapse and/or find a false flag reason to start a war against them.
At the same time Russia does'nt seem to want to wait for the problems to grow right next to it's door. But when do you exactly decide to attack the menace at it's root ? (...)
Good points Esprit. The way I see it is that involvement in other countries simply uses up resources Russia could utilise to help its own people and the country's economy. I therefore do not advocate Russia simply helping out everyone who happens to need help. I may be wrong of course, but excessive military involvement will likely put a strain on the country's economy - which is already being challenged with sanctions.
I think Russia is being strategic (and no surprise there) when they say that they will resort to military involvement if their own borders are threatened. The outcome of the Russian involvement in Syria has shown that this statement is certainly something to be taken seriously. But since the PTB are not exactly strategic thinkers and predicting outcomes of their own actions is not their strength, Russia may in fact be forced to intervene to defend its borders and its people.
And if Andre Vltchek's article is something to go by, such intervention would not be the end of the world for Afghanistan.
I do admit that Andre Vltchek's article made quite a strong impression on me as before I read it I mostly thought of Afghanistan as one of the countries the US ruined. I think the description of the 'people' factor and personal tragedies behind the US involvement made me think quite emotionally about Afghanistan - and I guess that might have shone through my post a little.
bjorn said:(...) Afghanistan is ideally positioned to disrupt Eurasian integration. Here is were the Arc of Crisis and the Jihadi plague of Brzezinski started. (To destablize the Eurasian continent) It would be symbolic, if it ends here.
From the looks of it, it’s my impression that Russia is trying to find ways to intervene. I believe that this can only happen if the Afghan government will make an official request at the UN. I don’t know how realistic that is, since it begs the question how tightly the US controls the Afghan government. I’m guessing the US is not taking any chances. Allthough, Afghan officials have been very vocal about the desire for Russian intervention.
I geuss another option for Russia is to just intervene. But that’s not the new world Putin is trying to build. Cooperation between nations and respecting each other sovereignty is the real New World Order. (That’s also why the Russian president always refers to the core foundations of the UN, it seems he wants to create a real UN and not the phony one we have now) If Putin wants his revolution to work. (Which is basically putting an end to Imperialism) I geuss he knows that the end does not justify the means. (You can’t set an example if you discard your own rules, otherwise his revolution might fail) I think it’s all up to the Afghan government to let the world and the UN know that they want Russian help. (...)
You actually described something I have been thinking of: that Putin intervenes only when he is asked for help. So yeah, let's see what happens if Afghanistan does ask.
Moreover, during the last SOTT radio show chat discussion it was mentioned that there is a video on YouTube where Gaddafi's son regretted not asking for Russian weapons sooner - and look what happened to Libya. Unfortunately I haven't been able to find the video.
angelburst29 said:(...) Afghanistan Wants Russia, Not US to Help Restore Peace in Country - Ambassador
https://sputniknews.com/asia/201708261056814201-afghanistan-us-russia-peace/
"We wanted the US troops and troops of other Western countries, which have close relations with Afghanistan, to leave Afghanistan long ago," Kochai stressed. "We have now very powerful troops. They fight against terrorism, against Taliban, against Daesh. We can do this."
Great articles angelburst29! It's the US and not Russia that is responsible for the current situation in Afghanistan. They created the mess, how can they be trusted to clean it up? Especially that they make lots of money out of the current state of affairs in Afghanistan.
Also, ongoing airstrikes are not exactly the best way to resolve the problem - that's in fact what started it in the first place. How can fighting fire with fire stop the spread of the fire?
At Least 28 Civilians Killed in US Airstrike in Afghanistan: https://sputniknews.com/asia/201708301056920347-afghanistan-logar-us-airstrike/
The US air forces have once again waged an airstrike in Afghanistan, leaving victims and injuries, local media reported on Wednesday, citing anonymous sources.
MOSCOW (Sputnik) — At least 28 civilians, including women and children, were killed in an US airstrike in Afghanistan's eastern province of Logar, local media reported on Wednesday.
According to the Pajhwok news agency, the airstrike hit a residential building in the province's city of Pol-e Alam.
The information on the airstrike was confirmed by a spokesman of the province's governor, according to the outlet.
President Donald Trump set out his Afghan policy on August 21, saying US troops would "fight to win." He said there was no deadline and refused to disclose how many personnel would stay behind. Moreover, on January 1, 2015, NATO announced its new mission in the country, called Resolute Support, to train and assist the Afghan security forces.
Ex-Afghan President Karzai: Trump Strategy Risks More Bloodshed: https://sputniknews.com/middleeast/201708251056771416-afghan-president-trump-strategy-bloodshed/
Afghanistan's former President Hamid Karzai claims that the new US strategy for his country is against Afghanistan's national interests.
MOSCOW (Sputnik) — Afghanistan's former President Hamid Karzai has slammed the new US strategy for his country and the use of private US security firms as anti-Afghan, in an interview with a Russian newspaper out Friday.
President Donald Trump set out his Afghan policy on Monday, saying US troops would "fight to win." He said there was no deadline and refused to disclose how many personnel would stay behind. Defense officials told US media the actual number of US troops serving in Afghanistan was several thousand higher than the official estimates.
"I strongly oppose the new US strategy for Afghanistan as it is against the country’s national interests," Karzai told the Izvestiya newspaper.
He said increased presence of private US contractors on the Afghan soil breached the national sovereignty and constitution and would lead to a drawn-out conflict and more bloodshed. US firm Blackwater (Academi) previously gained notoriety for killing civilians in the Iraq war.
"The use of private security companies is an anti-Afghan project," Karzai concluded.
The United States has been in Afghanistan for almost 17 years following the September 11, 2001 attacks in Washington and New York. Before his election, Trump condemned sending US troops and resources to this Central Asian country.
The stated goal of the 2001 US invasion was to defeat the al-Qaeda terrorist group but Afghanistan has also been ravaged by the Taliban, a major Islamic fundamentalist political movement in the 1990s, which held power over a large part of the country in 1996-2001 before being overthrown. The movement was then able to regroup and regain some of its prominence, waging war against the Afghan government.