African Americans

[Chu]

LIV, I think you are missing some crucial points here, and trying to find an answer to a question that is not answer-able. Plus, your tone has become somewhat condescending and avoiding, so we ask you to please watch for that.

you all give very interesting and "TRUE" perspectives in my opinion, but I still think you guys are missing the point. Because it is such a sensitive issue i think it is overlooked to not cause confrontation.

In some cases, yes. But I think you've been given many answers, but that you don't "like" them.

I did not start this thread to point out who is special or who is different etc etc.. i started this thread to gain different perspectives on the role black people play in the future.

And people have been trying to tell you that that is not a question you will get an answer for. Not unless you look at the bigger picture.

SO it makes you wonder what have black people contributed in the past that affects the present and how are future would be if they continue to be suppressed and treated as if they are nothing in the experience we are all living right now. They keep pushing this racial agenda and i want to know more in order to prepare for what may come. (knowledge protects)

By focusing exclusively on blacks you are actually removing a lot of elements from the bigger picture, which therefore will probably mean you'll never get an answer. There are groups and individuals with lessons. There are thousands of children being abused by their own parents every day. There are "minorities" or sick people who get discriminated. And the list goes on... Is it karma? I don't know. The fact is that this world is plagued by psychopathy, a subject that perhaps you are not familiarized with, and if that's the case, I encourage you to read about that. THAT may give you more answers.

You guys seem to keep getting caught up in the idea that there is no difference when it is super clear that though on a macro level it isnt but on a micro level it is! because they are using this simple difference to create chaos in order to keep control. In order to create order out of chaos one must understand the workings of the chaos..

Correct. And you are doing just that as well. You are focusing on that "simple" difference, instead of looking at the bigger picture. Nobody says there aren't genetic differences. It's obvious that there are. Nobody is saying that those differences aren't being fueled and exploited by the PTB, as they have always been. But what you are missing is the fact that the real "war" is between people with a conscience, and people without. Both are present in every single country, "race", gender, age group, etc. All other differences can be surmounted and even enrich one another, were it not by the insidiousness of psychopathy.

thats like saying oh don't worry about the differences of the earth because its only a planet like the rest of the planets. they are all of the same and made of of the same stuff at the end of the day. no! the earth is important for me to know because i live here and it has a direct impact on my experince (like what can i eat here and not there, can i breathe there, etc), so i think it would behoove me to learn about it so i can learn to enjoy my experience here. i dont live on neptune so im not as curious about it as i am the earth (maybe i would be if i learned eerything i needed to know about the earth). and i can understasnd neptune a lil better if i can relate it to something of the earth.

Yeah, but making generalizations and focusing too much on Earth you may miss the fact that Earth is part of a system, and that there are other factors at play.

imagine not knowing nothing about who you are ,for everybody around you to know everything about who they are, and then be told, you don't need to worry about who you are because were really the same anyway. umm no. we are not the same (on a micro level) because my experience is different simply based on me not knowing who i am. therefore i am going to react to my environment differently. do you guys get it? i'm trying my best to convey this in ways for you guys to see why these questions are constantly being posed in the world because people constantly counter them with vague responses and expect people to just be ok with it.

Yeah, that's the legacy from Christianity too. We are all born equal BS. But your questions and examples only prove that what you are focusing on is not the main issue. One has to sort the differences, and see which ones are really relevant in the grander scheme of things.

i may not get the answer im looking for on here.. and i'm ok with that, because this forum is one of many ways of connecting with people to find out information i need in my growth process....but hopefully this thread will help someone in the future and break some barriers of understanding so they can grow. KNOWLEDGE PROTECTS ..

I hope so too. It would even be nicer if you could take the time to learn about psychopathy, and that would be a very good kind of protective knowledge.

 

[H-KQGE]

LIV, I'm just gonna add to Chu's advice. I hope you understand that everyone here is trying to help one another as we are all basically "in the same boat." So, to me it sounds like you have some intense curiosities about this topic. I've had some curiosities about the same topic but I always kept the "bigger picture" in mind. Follow the advice given already & see where it leads you. NO one is SPECIAL. None. Not one group. The biggest problem on the planet right now is PSYCHOPATHY. And people in general just don't want to know. From around 7000 years of agriculture 'till today, psychopaths have hidden themselves in plain sight & turned the spirit of humanity - brothers, sisters, mothers fathers, communities - into something grotesque.


To get into psychopathy you'll need to get into psychopathology (separate studies/classifications that are complimentary) & study general psychology/cognitive science. If you add in esoteric works you'll see validation of ancient knowledge & wisdom in our era. But I don't think you should stop there. It's ok to check your favourite or most interesting thread, but for the "bigger picture" you should read history, (difficult for me & I love history!) that is, especially Laura's work, Pierre's & the recommended others. You see, when we take the above subjects & add all the dietary information (crossing/overlapping & complimenting all the above) as well as geo-politcs etc answers will come from every angle. Problem is, we ALWAYS have more QUESTIONS than ANSWERS. But if we all work together with people who are better in their field of study & with others (I mean there's many people who work in areas that are regularly commented on - diet & health especially, & other threads) sharing their experiences.... we'll have many eyes seeing the same (or similar) thing thus, covering more ground.

The C's have covered so much in these past two decades & most of that work has come via Laura. Some things (there's a fair amount) weren't possible in the beginning, & now they are. Others weren't then & still aren't. But do you think that the C's left out something major about "the black race?" From memory there's two major contributors in "recent" transcript compilations (other than the chateaux crew) putting context to different topics addressed down the years. There's a thread somewhere on this. My question isn't meant to offend btw, I would like to also know more but just out of curiosity. Heck, I'd like to know more about all of us but it's in the same vein, subjective, trivial & wouldn't really be something of much benefit to the undoubtedly thousands of people who read the C's transcripts.

I would also like to add that from my own subjective viewpoint I find human history to be one long drawn out HOLOCAUST. It's useful to know who was mixed with who genetically to create some other group & what they carry inside (two things come to mind in a roundabout way, hemochromatosis thread, & paraphrasing, "negroes most aligned to earth vibrations" - to me the C's seemed to mean that if Orions/lizzies/TPTB's plans come to fruition, then black people will surely "dance to the tune" that has been laid out for them... at least in the current cycle) & all, but as Laura's methodical dissection of the bible has shown, these things are so mixed, so wrought with cross-purposes (at TPTB psychopath level mainly OSIT) that focusing on what has happened to only one group that has been "played" so well along with the rest, is almost self-defeating.

Let me just end this by saying that most of human history is a LIE. Of course there are obvious (to the patient perspicacious & discerning - with guidance) & not so obvious feints but focusing on one thing will surely "constrict the flow" of the channel, & we are after all "receivers." Is it wise to focus on just blacks, Jews, native Americans, Orientals etc? Why not try to see the pieces of the puzzle that form an overall picture? If reincarnation, individual "profiles" etc are even remotely true, then all of this is happening to all of us all the "time" & one group will play patsy or aggressor or whatever, at various points in one cycle, then this will just continue until we learn how to "grow up" & BEcome whatever is our individual or collective destiny. Fortunately for us new & old members, we don't have to go through the (to me at least) almost unbearable learning curve that Laura had to for most of her life by herself. We are HERE, NOW, TOGETHER, with immediate access to incredible physical, emotional, mental & spiritual information that might lead to SOUL GROWTH. Reading & re-reading this information has led me to use my FREE WILL to believe in the things that I & others are constantly saying because I KNOW that MANY of these things have been proven, can be, & are likely, based on the data from tests that so many have engaged in & have conferred on. Other things we will have to just use our brains to hypothesize & theorize & take incremental steps to make sure that the path we're on IS "objective reality right & left."

 

[LIV]

wow lol well ill take these responses as time for me to move on from this format .. nice interacting with everyone. and i hope all of your journeys are filled with growth ..


side note ..im very surprised at how this group gangs up on people .. you would think you guys were more open minded ..

oh well .. this will be my last time visiting this forum .. is it possible for someone to erase everything i posted on here?

 

[luke wilson]

Fwiw, Liv, given all the problems we've been seeing of late especially in the US, which would suggest that black lives don't matter, mean nothing, it is a natural reaction to grasp at straws to offer a counterweight to the perceived level of injustice. I say grasp at straws because you are looking for information that is not there and interested in questions that cant be answered objectively. The unacknowledged reasons you have these particular questions, I think is because these events compounded on history have acted to weigh on your mind. How could they not? Black lives should matter, do matter, regardless of events that act to show otherwise. Sometimes you just need others to say it, to tell you that you matter!

Its hard to ignore race when you turn on the TV and see all that you do, when you have to face history etc. Race may not be that important ultimately BUT the system of the PTB has made it appear that it is. This is because historically and currently, it is treating people differently based on their racial heritage. If you are on the wrong side of this equation, you'll feel the issue of race weigh heavily on your shoulders. If you are on the right side, you will have gains and privileges which are easy to forget may come from people who have to suffer based on how they look. The same psychological mechanisms that act on a rich man to dismiss the concerns of a poor man may be at play without the person knowing.

But, ultimately, if you look at it, its not really about race per se, its about exploitation, greed and I suppose at a higher level, the creation of human suffering to feed 4D STS. Slavery was about exploitation, free labour and making the dominant group feel special and superior and to express this specialness through cruelty and harshness. In modern times, most police have control issues and are probably racist, misogynistic etc and so use their position to act out their dark sides with impunity.

Anyways, my whole point is that, all this will weigh on your psychology if you come from an oppressed group. Your mind may in turn as a coping mechanism create reasons for this. The same way the mind of the dominant person will create reasons for their apparent supremacy.

I think its useful to examine this.

What roles of groups, individuals or whatever are in future is unknowable really. We are all important, we all mean something, our lives matter and we all deserve to live without having to endure the injustices that rein supreme. Pathological individuals and psychopaths act to ensure we remain in a state of suffering through a system designed to ensure the moon gets a constant supply of food.

Remain conscious of the issues to keep your mind healthy and clean and to stop being a medium to be exploited by otherwise nefarious forces. :)

 

[Possibility of Being]

is it possible for someone to erase everything i posted on here?

Unfortunately, no. What is possible though is to delete your account if you wish so, and then your posts will appear as posted by a "guest" with no connection to any account/ profile.

 

[Mikey]

they create these divisions for a reason.. more complex than we may know.. hence why it should be a conversation for those on their journey in understanding themselves ..

The reason for the division is "divide and conquer" by those without conscience, against those with conscience, based on superficial skin color. It is as simple as that. It's not complex.

 

[luke wilson]

Liv, you think you are isolated so you choose to act hastily, in the heat of this moment. You feel you are not being understood? What we have is problems of perceptions. We are all the same and want the same things. Its your choice but my advice is to not act too hastily.

 

[LIV]

how do i delete my account .. ? i keep going to account settings nd there is nowhere to delete

 

[MusicMan]

and i consider myself black though my bloodline is VERY diverse....

I consider myself human, and my blood is the same colour as everybody else's.

 

[LIV]

luke .. it seems that ive been under attack since i became more vocal on this form.. it seems as if i cant have an opinion or simply state my feelings without being ganged up on.. it feels like im the newbie at the mean girls table.. its like if u dont agree with the majority than you are the bad guy or the problem.. it seriously feels like a clique.

i have too much going on in my life to add more craziness to it.. ive always held my tongue here and triedto be nice and understanding, but the same users keep "gunning" for me.. like they wanted to provoke me so i could leave or be booted out .. but guess what .. they won so im done.. its one thing to be misunderstood and another to be mean about it.. maybe im just too sensitive .. so knowing that i couldnt take the heat im getting out of the kitchen.. ive never came on anyone in this form in an ill manner but yet people have told me more than once i was the problem instead of looking at their own actions/responses smh

i only came here lookin for guidance in a place where i thought i would encounter open minded people.. unfortunately i was wrong .. i will take these reaponses as a sign to give up and move on ..


thank u to everyone who did help me grow in this journey


and please help me delete the account :)


smh

 

[davey72]

and i consider myself black though my bloodline is VERY diverse....

I consider myself human, and my blood is the same colour as everybody else's.

I think this is part of the reason that you will not recieve a clear cut answer to your question, as genetically the races have been intermingling for a very long time. My mother once told me that i am a "Heinz 57" , but i look white, and so i am white.

EDIT: and LIV, i think you are taking things too personally. The basis of this forum has always been inclined to provide objective analysis. You are not special in that regard. I will miss your insightful posts, but we all have our own journey, and the work is not for everyone. Good luck on your path. :)

 

[LIV]

and even as i reread this thread (as suggested by a user in a condenscending tone) noone still has grasped what i was ultimately trying to convey.. smh

 

[mkrnhr]

and even as i reread this thread (as suggested by a user in a condenscending tone) noone still has grasped what i was ultimately trying to convey.. smh

If that's the case, then do not try to convey, convey it. Write what you want to say as clearly as possible, otherwise, the misunderstanding will remain. Nobody's attacking you, all I see is a discussion going on according to what is understood from your post.

 

[luke wilson]

and even as i reread this thread (as suggested by a user in a condenscending tone) noone still has grasped what i was ultimately trying to convey.. smh

Don't quit. Work through this. You are not isolated or alone. I don't want to tell you what to do but you are making the wrong decision. I tell you that from a place of warmth.

 

[Possibility of Being]

how do i delete my account .. ? i keep going to account settings nd there is nowhere to delete

You can't. An Admin/Mod can do it per your request. But you might want to sleep on it before you decide that's what you really want.

Emotions can and do disturb our thinking. You seem to be upset with the replies you've got and the same time all members participating in this thread just shared with you their thoughts and current understanding trying to help you (and anyone interested, themselves included since we, too, learn by expressing out thoughts) as much as they could, in good faith. Can you see it?