Airasia QZ8501 Missing

Soros could have a grudge against Malaysia because they did make decisions in a way they could not be plundered in the nineties.

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For me these pictures does not look like anything I ever saw in a plane myself or in TV. And I cannot say that these objects look like a life raft, life jackets to me. For me these things could be anything from anywhere; probably just drifting debris. Do they ramp up some cover story in case of QZ8501 had the same fate as MH370?


_http://rt.com/news/218155-missing-airasia-flight-updates/
Monday, December 29
23:33 GMT:
The USS Sampson, a guided-missile destroyer, is on its way to the Java Sea to assist in the search for the missing plane, a senior US military official told CNN.

18:40 GMT: Indonesia has asked the United States for assistance in locating the missing plane, a spokesman for the US State Department has said, which was reported by Reuters.

According to the news the US destroyer came to help. What sort of business has a US destroyer in this part of the world? Do US like to take care of their interests in this?
 
They claim that they found the plane and at least some passengers.

_http://rt.com/news/218155-missing-airasia-flight-updates/
Tuesday, December 30
08:18 GMT:
The Indonesian National Search and Rescue Director Supriyadi has said that a shadow has been spotted on the seabed that is believed to be that of the missing AirAsia airplane, according to AFP.

08:10 GMT: Indonesian officials coming off a helicopter on Borneo island say they have recovered several bodies, which were floating in the sea near to where the missing AirAsia plane was last located by radar. Images on local television showed at least one bloated corpse, according to AP.

The agency added that the bodies were swollen but were intact. They were subsequently brought to an Indonesian naval ship, the National Search and Rescue Director Supriyadi told reporters. He added that none of the corpses were wearing life jackets.

Meanwhile, a spokesman for the navy, Manahan Simorangkir told loval television that several people had been found, but would not elaborate on whether they were dead or alive.

The bodies, swollen but intact, were brought to an Indonesian navy ship, National Search and Rescue Director SB Supriyadi told reporters in the nearest town, Pangkalan Bun. The corpses did not have life jackets on.
 
Along with Soros, the Israelis also have a 'grudge.'

_http://fpif.org/malaysias-relationship-israel-gets-frostier/

Malaysia’s Relationship With Israel Gets Frostier

The ongoing crisis in Gaza has pushed the Malaysia-Israel relationship to the point of no return.

The Israel Security Agency, better known as Shin Bet, recently claimed that Malaysia, a far-away majority-Muslim country in Southeast Asia, provided elite Hamas commandoes with paragliding training.

Reported by almost all major Israeli media outlets, such as The Jerusalem Post and Haaretz, Israel made the allegation after its security forces captured a senior Hamas commander who allegedly confessed to having been sent to Malaysia to receive paragliding training to conduct “terror attacks” in Israel.
[If Israel didn't just make this up, the Hamas commader probably "confessed" after getting tortured]

Malaysia’s Deputy Home Minister Wan Junaidi Tuanku Jaafar issued an official statement denying the report, calling it a “baseless” effort “to tarnish Malaysia’s good name.” Many Malaysians regard Israel’s unsubstantiated allegation as a knee-jerk reaction, perhaps even an indirect response to Malaysia’s support for the Palestinian cause and its strong condemnation of Israel’s current aggressions in Gaza.

Malaysia’s government has long been at odds with Israel. Mahathir Mohamad, who served as Malaysia’s prime minister for 22 years, constantly criticized Israel and its policies against the Palestinians, notoriously claiming in 2003 that Jews rule the world by “proxy.”

Malaysia is the only country in the world whose citizens’ passports clearly state that “this passport is valid for all countries except Israel.” A statement on the foreign ministry’s website explains that “Malaysia would consider beginning relations with Israel only when a comprehensive peace agreement between Israel and the Palestinian people is successfully concluded.”

Support for the Palestinian cause runs deep in Malaysian society. Malaysian NGOs like Viva Palestina Malaysia, Aman Palestin, and Aqsa Syarif are very active in advocating the Palestinian cause and have been conducting awareness campaigns intensively throughout the years focusing on humanitarian aid. And several years ago, the opposition in parliament heavily criticized Prime Minister Najib Razak for signing a contract with APCO Worldwide, a U.S.-based communications firm. The opposition alleged that APCO did PR for the Israeli government, though APCO denies this connection.

In 2010, a dozen Malaysian volunteers were on board the Mavi Marmara aid flotilla bound for Gaza when it had its tragic confrontation with Israeli forces. Their harrowing first-hand experience—seeing Israeli commandoes raid the unarmed ship and kill nine of their humanitarian worker colleagues—helped galvanize support from the Malaysian public for the Palestinian cause.

The recent escalation of violence by the Israeli government against Gaza, officially known as “Operation Protective Edge,” has intensified Palestinian solidarity activism in Malaysia. The popular boycott, divestment, and sanctions (BDS) movement against companies or international franchises that profit from the Israeli occupation is hugely popular in Malaysia, especially among its majority Muslim citizens.

Activists have gone to great lengths to scrutinize any business deals that might involve Israeli companies. The latest high-profile call is to boycott Malaysia’s largest television service provider, Astro, which allegedly concluded a business deal with Amdocs, an Israeli software and service provider.

Malaysian activists and NGOs are lambasting other multinational companies and franchises that have their footholds in Malaysia, like McDonalds and Tesco, for their alleged business relations with Israeli government. The corporations in turn are working very hard to manage the negative public perceptions by downplaying the political dimension of their economic footprint in the Israel-Palestinian conflict. For this they have constantly highlighted their contribution to the social wellbeing of Malaysian consumers by providing job opportunities and economic growth for the country.

As violence continues in Gaza, Malaysian civil society activists are waging their own campaign to create more awareness about the BDS initiative. They are delivering a strong message to any company that has any ties with Israel—no matter how small and indirect they might be—that Malaysians will not support or tolerate Israel’s aggressions against Palestinians.
 
Breaking news from RT - "Over 40 bodies have been recovered from the missing AirAsia flight, the Indonesian Navy said. Objects resembling parts of the plane, as well as what was thought to be the plane’s outline underwater, were seen in the search area." Things are happening fast this time. My thoughts go out to all the victims and their families. http://rt.com/news/218623-airasia-plane-missing-wreckage/
 
We are watching the news, reactions from victims' families are so heart-breaking. :'(

Yeah, Malaysians are against Israel's imposition on Palestine for as long as I can remember. As a kid I've always wondered why my parents' passports indicate a no Israel rule and that it's a 'bad' country or that it's not a country at all.
 
Those Soros details are utterly disgusting is an understatement. A psychopath born in my country seeking only to harm the world and declaring the opposite toward the media. "Freedom" and love for people then doing the exact opposite, ruining economies, ruining peoples life by destroying workplaces. And Soros gets praise as an economic expert on how to get rich? Yeah, rather he is an expert on how to create an insane demonic system that makes the life of working people miserable. :shock:
 
Tony said:
Breaking news from RT - "Over 40 bodies have been recovered from the missing AirAsia flight, the Indonesian Navy said. Objects resembling parts of the plane, as well as what was thought to be the plane’s outline underwater, were seen in the search area." Things are happening fast this time. My thoughts go out to all the victims and their families. http://rt.com/news/218623-airasia-plane-missing-wreckage/

According to a following TASS article, only 3 bodies were recovered.

_http://itar-tass.com/en/world/770034


Indonesian rescuers say 3 bodies, not 40 recovered at AirAsia plane crash site

The previous reports of 40 bodies being recovered emerged as a result of misunderstanding between rescue services working in the area [...]

Commenting on earlier reports that rescuers recovered over 40 bodies from the crash scene, Soelistyo said the information emerged as a result of “misunderstanding” between rescue services working in the area.
 
Tony said:
Breaking news from RT - "Over 40 bodies have been recovered from the missing AirAsia flight, the Indonesian Navy said. Objects resembling parts of the plane, as well as what was thought to be the plane’s outline underwater, were seen in the search area." Things are happening fast this time. My thoughts go out to all the victims and their families. http://rt.com/news/218623-airasia-plane-missing-wreckage/
The official count is 3 bodies recovered by the navy ship. Not 40. However parts from the debris were confirmed by Air Asia Engineers at the Rescue closest airbase to be that of the doomed flight QZ 8501. http://www.thejakartapost.com/news/2014/12/30/airasia-deeply-saddened-qz8501-accident.html
On the George Soros information, just curiously, he was here in Jakarta meeting the president of Indonesia, but Mr. Joko Widodo, the president, left the meeting earlier, to fly to meet the victims families when the Air Asia QZ 8501 was confirmed to have been found. (Excuse the translation) http://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=id&u=http://www.yiela.com/view/3881512/jokowi-bertemu-soros-apa-yang-dibicarakan-&prev=search
 
After reading about all these airplanes in the last 2 days that have experienced technical problems and taking in consideration the tragic fate of Airasia QZ8501(which now is presumed that has crashed) it makes you wonder about the what the possible cause may be , an overhead meteor explosion or multiple overhead meteor explosions ? Sorry just a speculation from my part.
 
Andrian said:


It's getting really weird now. What's up with Air Asia?? :huh: There are reports that some of the bodies found in the sea were holding hands. That sort of suggests that some passengers were alive when the plane hit the water, and able to exit the fuselage, which in turn suggests a relatively gentle impact with the ocean.
 
All the news is very suspect! RT still reports 40 bodies? Why does each news report keep showing us a piece of 4 x 2 timber floating in the water? It's not like a house has crashed. This all seems very amateur and fake.
 
Tony said:
All the news is very suspect! RT still reports 40 bodies? Why does each news report keep showing us a piece of 4 x 2 timber floating in the water? It's not like a house has crashed. This all seems very amateur and fake.

Just speculating here, but let's say, hypothetically, that this flight disappeared like MH370. Knowing this, the PTB would come up with a contingency plan, since they were caught with their pants down after 370. So is it possible they will find a few bodies (random people dumped there) and wreckage (again placed for a photo op, or not even that), then say, "plane crashed, case closed"? We'll just have to wait and see how much evidence gets released.
 
Approaching Infinity said:
Tony said:
All the news is very suspect! RT still reports 40 bodies? Why does each news report keep showing us a piece of 4 x 2 timber floating in the water? It's not like a house has crashed. This all seems very amateur and fake.

Just speculating here, but let's say, hypothetically, that this flight disappeared like MH370. Knowing this, the PTB would come up with a contingency plan, since they were caught with their pants down after 370. So is it possible they will find a few bodies (random people dumped there) and wreckage (again placed for a photo op, or not even that), then say, "plane crashed, case closed"? We'll just have to wait and see how much evidence gets released.

This is what I've been thinking all day, as the pictures I've seen so far have been of things that look like wood logs in the ocean rather than a plane piece, I've been thinking that they could not be seen as having lost two planes in the same area in the same year, let's see how this develops
 
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