Alex Jones - COINTELPRO? Fascist Tool?

SummerLite

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Wow! I'm surprised so many here have watched this interview and are commenting on it. I watched part of it also and thought about posting the clip and I see dugdeep has already done so... It was a bit surprising to hear Alex's take on aliens as interdimensional beings and his views so closely align with what is said here. There is more to the man then I thought. His energy is so intense its hard for me to listen for very long. I don't know if I could handle a full 4 hours! He seems older then 45 to me. Yea, he's got some mental issues.

I've wondered about his censoring being a tactic to make him seem more legitimate. Maybe thats not the case.
 

luc

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I only watched the short Aliens clip, but this guy is really... yeah, mental issues. It's almost as if he came in contact with higher realities and it just overloaded his mind and drove him crazy. Did I understand it correctly that his parents were involved in some deep and spooky government stuff, at least according to him? Isn't there a pattern with kids of such parents getting into trouble? Perhaps Jones isn't so much a nefarious con-artist but a deeply troubled, lost soul...
 

Pashalis

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I only watched the short Aliens clip, but this guy is really... yeah, mental issues. It's almost as if he came in contact with higher realities and it just overloaded his mind and drove him crazy.
I agree, at best mental issues seem to be at work, to put it mildly. Nothing seems to have changed in that regard either, not even slightly. I still think though a better description of his character can be found in Łobaczewski's work. At least he was diagnosed in court to have a "narcissistic personality disorder" and in fact I think that this diagnosis is probably not far of the mark. I would say a great deal of paranoia and schizophrenic thinking seems to be involved too. I'm also not sure if he means the same things as ordinary people do when they talk about "justice" and "changing the world for the better"... Some kind of schizophrenic charactopathy might be involved. Also notice, that basically Jones never manages to really have a discussion with Rogan or anyone else for that matter (from what I've seen so far). If you observe it closely, it seems like he is constantly in his own head and doesn't really engage in the conversation as normal people do. It seems like for Jones there is always his own film running in his head with very little ability to accommodate and really understand outside perspectives.

I do think by now though that he is really into and believing the things he says and not consciously misleading (I could be wrong though). He just can't help himself mentally and thus he is a very good candidate for manipulation from other nefarious agents. You can also notice that he constantly slightly misreads what people actually say, into what he thinks they said and did, and by doing so, he slightly but profoundly changes what actually happened in his mind, which then gets passed on to others, in an altered, removed from reality kind of way.

Did I understand it correctly that his parents were involved in some deep and spooky government stuff, at least according to him? Isn't there a pattern with kids of such parents getting into trouble? Perhaps Jones isn't so much a nefarious con-artist but a deeply troubled, lost soul...
Yes you understood that correctly, at least according to his own statements and other data. See here, here and here for more information about that.

Perhaps Jones isn't so much a nefarious con-artist but a deeply troubled, lost soul...
Perhaps, but if so, he seems to have lost the plot a long time ago unfortunately.
 

SummerLite

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Insightful analysis Pashalis, thanks. Considering more on his censorship, for many years Alex was perhaps a useful idiot. The reaction I had to his dialogue many years ago, was that TPTB are very powerful and are controlling Everything, it was fear inducing and intimidating. Useful, yes. But, he crossed the line when he so strongly supported Trump where there is no tolerance. The Sandy Hook blow back was the excuse used to get rid of him.
 

Woodsman

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I agree, at best mental issues seem to be at work, to put it mildly. Nothing seems to have changed in that regard either, not even slightly. I still think though a better description of his character can be found in Łobaczewski's work. At least he was diagnosed in court to have a "narcissistic personality disorder" and in fact I think that this diagnosis is probably not far of the mark. I would say a great deal of paranoia and schizophrenic thinking seems to be involved too. I'm also not sure if he means the same things as ordinary people do when they talk about "justice" and "changing the world for the better"... Some kind of schizophrenic charactopathy might be involved. Also notice, that basically Jones never manages to really have a discussion with Rogan or anyone else for that matter (from what I've seen so far). If you observe it closely, it seems like he is constantly in his own head and doesn't really engage in the conversation as normal people do. It seems like for Jones there is always his own film running in his head with very little ability to accommodate and really understand outside perspectives.

I do think by now though that he is really into and believing the things he says and not consciously misleading (I could be wrong though). He just can't help himself mentally and thus he is a very good candidate for manipulation from other nefarious agents. You can also notice that he constantly slightly misreads what people actually say, into what he thinks they said and did, and by doing so, he slightly but profoundly changes what actually happened in his mind, which then gets passed on to others, in an altered, removed from reality kind of way.



Yes you understood that correctly, at least according to his own statements and other data. See here, here and here for more information about that.



Perhaps, but if so, he seems to have lost the plot a long time ago unfortunately.
Good eye and redux! I noticed all those same things, but didn't put them together like that.
 

SlipNet

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Here is an interview with Rogan just now on InfoWars. Take the weed and whiskey out of the equation, and the talk is quite different.

 

Metrist

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I was a regular listener to Rense for some time, and one night I was listening and Rense sounded frustrated about some topic... and it was as if his frustration were aimed more at his audience than the subject of his conversation - I don't even remember the topic. But I was like: 'Well, he dwells too much in dark matters and he's bound to get frustrated, he needs a break'.

But he kept on with his conversation, insinuating, inciting, and indirectly attacking the listening audience, as if their apathy were the problem and not the topic of his conversation. And it was like a failed manipulator who upon giving up on his scheme, lashes out at his intended victims before sinking back into the recesses of his dark world.

So, manipulators eventually have to reveal themselves as being not what they seem. And caring people will say: 'take a break', 'have a timeout', but whether he just had a hard time and lashed out, or is a conniving manipulator, doesn't matter because he succumbed, and his 'truth' is swallowed up in a lie and serves only to draw people into it - like bait.
 

JEEP

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Too hilarious!
Infowars founder Alex Jones crashed a Hillary Clinton’s Texas speech in a battle tank on Sunday.

“Hillary Clinton is a devil-worshiping criminal,” Jones shouted through a megaphone at the crowd of Clinton supporters.

Jones, and InfoWars host Owen Shroyer, also chanted “Donald Trump is president” and “Hillary Clinton is a failure.”

Read more/see video at link:

 

SlipNet

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“Hillary Clinton is a devil-worshiping criminal,” Jones shouted through a megaphone at the crowd of Clinton supporters.

Jones, and InfoWars host Owen Shroyer, also chanted “Donald Trump is president” and “Hillary Clinton is a failure.”
Sometimes, as infuriating as he is, I just can't help liking Jones. I think he's crazy, but he's spot on here. It's just the kind of stunt only he could pull off.
 

Talitha

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Alex Jones: COINTELPRO

I was preparing reply to Treesparrow re-reading Joe Vialls articles and making quotes to demonstrate that I wouldn't believe anything that Department of State states; irrelevantly whether it states someone is disinformant or truthful informant, but sit down and analyse texts by myself; that i see his articles as ones from a sincere truthseeker, trying to expose takeover of US by zionistic forces within Israel and US, that thermonuclear blast and not an earthquake being the reason behind 26-december Sumatra tsunami; Bush and Co ordering attacks on italian Manifesto journalists, exposing US MSM lies about capture of "Hussein" and successful "eliminating of both his sons and other thoughtful analyses of US-Israel policies. Then i felt exausted
and suddenly out of nowhere one short thought came: about matrix, that anything Vialls and other sites are about: globalists versus antiglobalists, exposing media lies and real policymakers behind puppets - all this still keeps us fighting inside matrix, its still sincere puppets fighting disinfo-artists puppets. Some time ago I read book "Matrix warrior" by Jake Horsley, regularly read sott materials, and "understood" essence of ptb, but it was the first time this thought came from within. When reading about ptb I kept exteriorising enemy it's us versus them battle, i remembered what C's said that we are a battleground, but understanding thought literally, harbouring it with brain is quite different from what i experienced yesterday- Its like finally my brain got message to every cell. It is an individual battle within each of us and no less. I read this before many times but it didn't come through. I felt that when you think that you think and you feel from deep inside that you think (the same thought) makes not huge difference but all the difference. Gosh, why it didn't happen before when i was writing about 3-d analysis of our reality??
That book is an an eye opener, a great integration of Castaneda´s teachings with the idea of a virtual matrix "reality".
One thing I have struggled with for a while...was the amount of odd synchronicities, or High Strangeness, I have been experiencing for over a year, and in just one page of this book it all made sense, seeing through the anomalies as not something happening or being inflected to me, but seeing them as glitches in the "system" that let you peek through the programs and override them, I think that is when the Belief Center that the C´s speak off is developed. I am only half way through...can´t wait to finish it.
 
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