Yes, they are both very old now, Torres may even be dead. Chaplin is an interesting character who would go on to become a script writer in Hollywood and is also known to be a highly gifted psychic. When she first visited the church at Rennes-le-Chateau in the company of Jose Torres after the Frenchwoman had died, she had an awful experience, which stayed with her the rest of her life. Indeed, her female guide took her there to confront her fears when she was undertaking the pilgrimage of initiation. She had only been 16 when first visiting the church and knew absolutely nothing about Abbe Sauniere and the mystery of Rennes-le-Chateau at the time. Whilst in the church she experienced a terrifying vision or apparition of a black cassocked figure with hate in his eyes lunging at her. She ran out of the church in a state with Jose and his friend in pursuit. She never revealed to them what she had seen but did to her female guide 50 years later. She assumed the priestly figure she saw, who seemed to her pure evil, was Sauniere. Hence, be warned, there may be bad vibrations there for people who are gifted psychics.
Yes, the C's confirmed that the Grail was created by STO forces and the Ark was created by STS forces.
As to the grapes, yes I do believe they have a significant meaning. The artist Nicolas Poussin was a very exacting painter. Thus, everything he depicted within his art had some meaning.
You should note that there was a reference to "blue apples" contained within one of the four old parchments that Abbe Sauniere supposedly found hidden within his church that lie at the heart of the mystery. When he had this particular parchment deciphered, it contained a number of peculiar references:
"Shepherdess no temptation that Poussin and Teniers hold the key pax 681 by the cross and this horse of God I complete this guardian demon at midday blue apples.”
The shepherdess refers to the female figure depicted in Poussin's painting of
The Shepherds of Arcadia, which may be linked to an ancient female goddess such as Persephone, Demeter, Hathor, Isis, Inanna etc. The reference to the artist David Teniers is to his work the Temptation of St Anthony (the Desert Father and founder of monasticism) of which he did several versions. However, there is one version that does not show him being tempted by demons. The "Horse of God" may be a reference to the Roman deity Neptune (the Greek Poseidon) who was often linked to horses in mythology. It may also be a reference to the famous Horse of Troy, which became the means by which the Greeks infiltrated Troy and destroyed it. Curiously, it was the Arcadians who built the wooden Horse of Troy and it is my belief that the region of southern France where Rennes-le-Chateau is located was part of ancient Arcadia before the name migrated with settlers to the Peloponnese in what is now central Greece.
The term
Noonday Demon (also known to be referred to as Noonday Devil, Demon of Noontide, Midday Demon) is used as a synonym and a personification of
acedia, which stems from the Greek word "
akēdeia", meaning to lack care. It indicates a demonic figure thought to be active at the noon hour which inclines its victims to restlessness, excitability, and inattention to duty. There may also be a link here to the demonic statue or figure displayed at the church at Rennes-le-Chateau, which most observers link to the demon Asmodeus. It also makes me think of the terrifying ghostly vision Patrice Chaplin experienced when she first visited the church.
You should also note that here that there is a particular variety of blue grape that is cultivated in the south of France which is so large the grapes are known locally as "blue apples". This may in turn be linked with the peculiar phenomenon of the blue apples of light that can be seen at the church in Rennes-le-Chateau during the month of January
Every year on January 17, pilgrims go to the Church of Saint Mary Magdalene in
Rennes-le-Château to witness a mysterious light phenomenon known
pommes bleues (blue apples). Around midday, the sun streams through the church’s stained glass windows, projecting numerous strange multicoloured orbs (see picture below) that are said to resemble apples onto the religious friezes inside.
January 17 is particularly significant to the mystery of Rennes-le-Chateau as it is the feast day of St. Anthony the Great (also called St. Anthony the Hermit), and also the day in 1917 when Saunière had his fatal stroke.
However, the C's also mentioned "blue apples" or grapes in the transcripts:
Session 12 July 1997:
Q: Okay, in this relief painting done by Berenger Sauniere in the church at Rennes le Chateau, Mary Magdalene is depicted as gazing hopefully or reverently at a tree branch formed into a cross, stuck in the ground. What kind of tree is it?
A: The "tree of life."
Q: Well, I had a different idea... some people say it is an acacia tree. Are you saying it is not a genus, horticulturally?
A: Genus is family tree.
Q: And what family is it a family tree for?
A: Check your Magna for lesson.
Q: My magna? What in the world? Okay, "blue apples:" Stones or grapes?
A: Why not both?
And
Session 16 August 1997:
Q: I noticed in Genesis Chapter 33, verse 11, it says that Jacob, who wrestled with the angel the previous night and was on his way to see his brother Esau, who he had tricked into giving up his blessing years before, “gave Esau the blessing”. What was this? The birthright from his father or the blessing Jacob received from the angel?
A: Trampled leaves of wrath.
Q: This is what Jacob gave to Esau?
A: Yes, and what is the "core" meaning there?
Q: I don't know. What is the core meaning?
A: Leaves are of the Tree of Apples, from whence we get the proverbial "grapes of wrath," the Blue Apples incarnate!
Q: Why are these leaves 'trampled?'
A: Removes chlorophyll.
Q: What is the significance of the chlorophyll?
A: When the chlorophyll dies, the autumnal equinox is at hand.
Q: Did this signify something about the autumnal equinox?
A: Discover what the significance is, my Dear!
Q: Why did Jacob then deceive his brother again? He was to travel and meet him in Edom, but then went in the other direction as soon as Esau was on his way.
A: Refer to last answer, and cross reference.
The C's later added to this in the
session dated 2 February 2003:
Q: (L) One aspect of the variation on the story was that Jacob gave his brother, Esau, the 'blessing' and some 'gift.' Does this reflect an accurate part of the story that Moses, in his form as Jacob, passed something on to someone else’s - something that was important?
A: Yes.
Q: (L) Was it Moses/Abraham who was doing this?
A: Yes.
Q: (L) Who did he pass it on to?
A: It was finally understood by "Moses" that the danger of the object was greater than the ability of descendants to resist corruption. He handed it over to those who had created it.
Q: (Galahad) Was it STS or STO forces that created it?
A: STS.
Q: (Galahad) So, the Ark was an object created by STS. Did this amount to some sort of realization on Moses' part? Did he start to wake up?
A: Yes. The story of the "contending with the angel" was the significant turning point as well as the moment of return.
Q: (L) What was the blessing he gave to quote Esau, if giving the object to the "angel" was the event of returning the ark? What was the story there?
A: Two separate events.
Q: (L) So, he returned the ark to the so-called angel. And then, he gave something to someone else. Previously, when I asked about this, you said that what he gave to Esau was "trampled leaves of wrath, the blue apples incarnate," and remarked that I should inquire into the "core meaning."
A: And who was "Kore?"
Q: (L) Was this Abraham's daughter?
A: It was the last living member of the Perseid family.
Q: (L) Was it a male or female?
A: Female.
Q: (L) And how did Abraham come to be in possession of this female?
A: Search the text and you will see.
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Q: (L) Going back to this person - the last living member of the Perseid family - who was handed over by Abraham in his Jacob persona to someone else, who was this person handed over to and why?
A: For protection from the fury of "Helen."
Q: (L) So, there is a reflection of that in the story of Hagar the Egyptian. Who was she handed over to?
A: The "Dragon Slayers."
You may be aware that I have argued that Kore is the Egyptian Princess Meritaten, who was the daughter of Pharoah Akhenaten and his wife Queen Nefertiti, who became Sarah the biblical wife of Abraham/Moses, with Meritaten becoming the biblical figure of Hagar the Egyptian servant woman to Sarah.
If Kore/Meritaten is linked to the "core meaning", the C's may be referring to a special DNA (genetics) that the Perseid family possessed. Recall here that the legendary founder of the Perseid line was the mythic figure of Perseuswho slew the Gorgon Medusa, whose snake writhing head became his trophy, which he later used to save the life of Princess Andromeda. Many observers view the legend of Perseus as a Grail story, the Medusa's head being a symbol of the Grail (particularly if the Grail device the C's have spoken of is the pure crystal skull the Knights Templar found and called Baphomet - the baptism of wisdom). It would seem that at one time Akhenaten possessed both the Grail and the Ark (that would become the Israelites' Ark of the Covenant). This suggests that Princess Meritaten may have had, as a Temple priestess in her own right, a close link to the Grail, which continued even after Abraham/Moses took the Ark and the Grail with him, Sarah and Hagar into the desert. Indeed, could Meritaten have brought the Grail with her to the British Isles when she journeyed there in the company of the "Dragon Slayers" - the Tuatha de Danann? Could the Grail have been the real object of the Trojan War that the C's have recently suggested took place in 1100 BC in Britain, well after the age of Meritaten. If so, this might make for an interesting connection between the fabled talking head of Bran the Blessed (revered by the British Celts) and Baphomet, the pure crystal skull. Curiously, this time frame may put it in the same period approximately speaking as the biblical King David who slew the giant Goliath:
Q: (L) These Nephilim, how tall were they again?
A: Up to 15 feet maximum.
Q: (L) Was Goliath, who was killed by David, one of the Nephilim?
A: Yes. In legend. Actual event depicted in story was earlier.
Q: (L) Was it actually David and Goliath?
A: Yes.
Q: (L) Did he actually slay him with a stone from a slingshot?
A: Close.
¿podría el rey David, un levita, haber sido una figura parecida a Jasón que vino a Gran Bretaña ¿con un grupo equivalente a los míticos argonautas en busca del Grial, tal vez durante la Guerra de Troya, para llevarlo consigo a Israel/Canaán de la misma manera que Perseo se había llevado la cabeza de Medusa? Después de todo, la búsqueda de Jason del Vellocino de Oro es en realidad otra búsqueda del Grial. Puede ser interesante observar aquí que en los círculos cabalísticos, el demonio Asmodeus era descendiente del rey David y la reina de los demonios, Agrat bat Mahlat. En las leyendas talmúdicas lo era Asmodeo quien construyó el Templo de Salomón usando poderes mágicos. En cierto modo, esto puede establecer paralelos con la historia de Bruto, el primer rey de Gran Bretaña y descendiente de Troyano El rey Eneas, que tuvo que luchar contra gigantes (Gog y Magog) cuando llegó por primera vez a Gran Bretaña (supuestamente a Cornualles).
Si quieres leer más sobre el enlace entre Kore, el Grial y Blue Apples. Adjunto una copia de mi artículo anterior sobre Abbe Sauniere en el que analizo el asunto en relación con las peculiares decoraciones de su iglesia en Rennes-le-Chateau.
